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04-19-2008, 09:46 PM
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 Re: database market share 2003 Joel Garry said: > "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@serendipita.com> wrote in message > news:<cac24q$6mn$1@news.xmission.com>... >> Daniel Morgan said: >> >> > The reason Oracle doesn't concentrate on OS/390, if that is the case, >> > might also relate to the difficulty of selling into a marketshare very >> > carefully managed by IBM. >> >> Jesus, Daniel, why don't you blame IBM for the ebola virus as well, >> while >> you're at it? >> >> I'd like to point out that companies like Compuware, BMC and Computer >> Associates do exceptionally well in the "carefully managed" IBM >> mainframe >> market. Could it possibly be that either Oracle doesn't grok the >> mainframe >> market or sees it as different to core business and so doesn't work as >> hard on it? Or maybe something else? Does it *have* to be nasty IBM's > > Maybe it's because the founders of all those companies used to work > for IBM? > http://www.compuware.com/corporate/793_ENG_HTML.htm > http://www.bmc.com/BMC/Common/CDA/ho...128252,00.html > http://www.ca.com/about/history.htm Actually, I seem to recall that Larry had some sort of job cutting code for mainframes as well, but he got out of it because he thought Unix was a coming thing. Could it be as simple as that...? Nahh... >> fault that Oracle doesn't have big marketshare in the mainframe database >> as well? Is it not remotely possible that Oracle cannot or will not >> commit >> to the market? Have you considered that it could be entirely or largely >> Oracle's own responsibility to try and compete in a given market. > > Yes, it could very well be Larry doesn't see competing directly on the > platform as a growth market, versus growing competing platforms. > >> >> Sure, IBM does stuff we don't agree with. So does every other company >> that >> walks the earth. Get over it. > > We can make a difference, sometimes with as little as letting them > know it is an issue. Other times by letting the gummint have it's way > with them. Yeah, I'm sure Sam Parmagiano reads CDI all the time to find out how he should run IBM and what he's doing wrong. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien à dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche "I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't get my head up my ass" - JCH "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di cazzo" - Marco http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html sending to informix-list      |
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| Re: database market share 2003 "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@serendipita.com> wrote in message news:<cadl7j$fec$1@news.xmission.com>... > > Actually, I seem to recall that Larry had some sort of job cutting code > for mainframes as well, but he got out of it because he thought Unix was a > coming thing. Could it be as simple as that...? Nahh... > If you would have said government contracts instead of Unix, it was that simple. http://www.osborne.com/database_erp/...92798_ch01.pdf http://www.oracle.com/corporate/index.html?history.html jg -- @home.com is bogus. But the busines of business is business, not technology. http://www.oracle.com/california/ind...l?content.html |
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