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| John Carlson said: > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:18:23 -0500, "Art S. Kagel" > <kagel@bloomberg.net> wrote: > >>Neil Truby wrote: >>> "Art S. Kagel" <kagel@bloomberg.net> wrote in message >>> news:4225FCE7.2030309@bloomberg.net... >> >>> >>> First of all, only an American could mangle the noun "affinity" and >>> come up >>> with the verb "affine" :-) >> >>There's a logic to it. If 'unity' is the noun, 'united' the adjective, >> and >>'unite' the verb, then for the noun 'affinity' there SHOULD exist the >> verb >>'affine' if there exists the adjective 'affined'! Voila: >> >> From The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: >> >>AFFINED >>adj. Linked by a close relationship. Beholden to another; bound. >> >> >>Which begs the equivalent definition: >> >>AFFINE >>v. To link by a close relationship. To create an affinity or objects >> which >>are affined. >> >>And as the final nail in the 'there ain't no such word' coffin: >> >> From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913) >>Affine \Af*fine"\, v. t. [F. affiner to refine; ? (L. ad) + fin fine. See >>{Fine}.] To refine. [Obs.] --Holland. > > Score one for the Yanks . . .8-) Well, I'm not sure how. Art, for all his great knowledge on databases, has succumbed to what grammarians refer to (with some irony) as "verbing" -- taking an adjective, noun or other non-verb and making it into a verb. The fact that his references are all American is also not a particularly good sign, very few grammarians will accept an American reference if it isn't backed up by a corresponding English reference. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just pointing out how grammarians feel about the quality of American English. Finally, the "final nail in the coffin" says that an out of use instance of this word actually means something else than what what Art took it to mean. In essence then, I'm not sure how the Yanks scored one here, but if it makes you feel happy, then by all means, carry on believing it. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien à dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche "I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't get my head up my ass" - JCH "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di cazzo" - Marco Travel broadens a person. You look as if you have been all over the world. I went to the airport to check in and they asked what I did because I looked like a terrorist. I said I was a comedian. They said, "Say something funny then." I told them I had just graduated from flying school. -- Ahmed Ahmed http://members.rogers.com/2remedy/im...nners/RTFM.gif sending to informix-list |
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| On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 09:58:29 -0000 (GMT), "Obnoxio The Chav" <obnoxio@serendipita.com> wrote: > > >John Carlson said: >> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:18:23 -0500, "Art S. Kagel" >> <kagel@bloomberg.net> wrote: >> >>>Neil Truby wrote: >>>> "Art S. Kagel" <kagel@bloomberg.net> wrote in message >>>> news:4225FCE7.2030309@bloomberg.net... >>> >>>> >>>> First of all, only an American could mangle the noun "affinity" and >>>> come up >>>> with the verb "affine" :-) >>> >>>There's a logic to it. If 'unity' is the noun, 'united' the adjective, >>> and >>>'unite' the verb, then for the noun 'affinity' there SHOULD exist the >>> verb >>>'affine' if there exists the adjective 'affined'! Voila: >>> >>> From The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: >>> >>>AFFINED >>>adj. Linked by a close relationship. Beholden to another; bound. >>> >>> >>>Which begs the equivalent definition: >>> >>>AFFINE >>>v. To link by a close relationship. To create an affinity or objects >>> which >>>are affined. >>> >>>And as the final nail in the 'there ain't no such word' coffin: >>> >>> From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913) >>>Affine \Af*fine"\, v. t. [F. affiner to refine; ? (L. ad) + fin fine. See >>>{Fine}.] To refine. [Obs.] --Holland. >> >> Score one for the Yanks . . .8-) > >Well, I'm not sure how. Art, for all his great knowledge on databases, has >succumbed to what grammarians refer to (with some irony) as "verbing" -- >taking an adjective, noun or other non-verb and making it into a verb. > >The fact that his references are all American is also not a particularly >good sign, very few grammarians will accept an American reference if it >isn't backed up by a corresponding English reference. Don't shoot the >messenger, I'm just pointing out how grammarians feel about the quality of >American English. > At least the British grammarians . . . .8-) >Finally, the "final nail in the coffin" says that an out of use instance >of this word actually means something else than what what Art took it to >mean. > He just brings up the logic of it, not necessarily that it exists . . .. purely hypothetical in nature . . . >In essence then, I'm not sure how the Yanks scored one here, but if it >makes you feel happy, then by all means, carry on believing it. Still in the realm of the theoretical, not the practical . . . .I'll take them how I can get them . . . . JWC |
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