Wow.
Daniel seems to want to change the issue.

Daniel, my client is using 9.
When they go to either 10 or 11, then I'll go to 10 or 11.

I'm a consultant and when I pick or choose a client, I'm forced to work
within their limited constraints.

Just because I believe that IDS is the best designed and efficient database
on the market doesn't mean its the only database that I support.

As you can see here, there are many Informix shops on different versions of
IDS which stretch back a couple of years. Not everyone jumps on the latest
for many reasons.

You'd grok that if you actually did anything real, instead of pretended to
be an educator.



>From: Fernando Nunes <spam@domus.online.pt>
>DA Morgan wrote:
>
> >> My experience is with Oracle 9.
> >
> > Released 6 years ago in 2001 and currently desupported. That's keeping
> > current?
>
>Desupported already?! I thought it was about to reach end of support (with
>11
>comming up)... Plea$e $upgrade$... keep Gartner happy! :>
>
>By the way... You may clarify me a doubt... (I really should ask this in an
>Oracle newsgroup...):
>
>My fellow Oracle DBA tells me something about PL/SQL need to have
>explicitly
>grants (user/table) while simple SQL doesn't... I know I'm not making much
>sense, but in his words: "It's a different engine... SQL and PL/SQL"
>If I recall correctly if you create a procedure with a user that has the
>necessarily privileges over the tables, a third user cannot execute the
>procedure if he doesn't have the underlying table privileges... Does it
>ring a
>bell? I'll try to clarify this with him...
>
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Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
>
> Wow.
> Daniel seems to want to change the issue.
>
> Daniel, my client is using 9.
> When they go to either 10 or 11, then I'll go to 10 or 11.

No attempt to change the subject. Your customer could be using
version 3.0 for all I care. My point is you are rendering an
opinion about a product based on knowledge of a version so old
it is in desupport.

Would it make sense to comment on Informix based on an obsolete
version and extend that to apply to Cheetah? Of course not.

PS: You might want to learn 10 and 11 in advance of your client's
need.
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University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)

"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message
news:1182438452.340120@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
> Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
>>
>> Wow.
>> Daniel seems to want to change the issue.
>>
>> Daniel, my client is using 9.
>> When they go to either 10 or 11, then I'll go to 10 or 11.
>
> No attempt to change the subject. Your customer could be using
> version 3.0 for all I care. My point is you are rendering an
> opinion about a product based on knowledge of a version so old
> it is in desupport.

Daniel, I realise that you are probably American. But even so, surely you
can't possibly seriously try to use a phrase like "in desupport" without
some sense of shame for what you're doing to my beautiful language ... ?

Captain Pedantic wrote:
> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message
> news:1182438452.340120@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>> Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
>>> Wow.
>>> Daniel seems to want to change the issue.
>>>
>>> Daniel, my client is using 9.
>>> When they go to either 10 or 11, then I'll go to 10 or 11.
>> No attempt to change the subject. Your customer could be using
>> version 3.0 for all I care. My point is you are rendering an
>> opinion about a product based on knowledge of a version so old
>> it is in desupport.
>
> Daniel, I realise that you are probably American. But even so, surely you
> can't possibly seriously try to use a phrase like "in desupport" without
> some sense of shame for what you're doing to my beautiful language ... ?

*your* beautiful language? next thing you know he's patented it, asks for
license fees, and there goes free speech...


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Captain Pedantic wrote:

> Daniel, I realise that you are probably American. But even so, surely you
> can't possibly seriously try to use a phrase like "in desupport" without
> some sense of shame for what you're doing to my beautiful language ... ?

Without much pride, these days, I must acknowledge that you are correct.
But that lovely word is the official verbiage.
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University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message
news:1182469540.896327@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
> Captain Pedantic wrote:
>
>> Daniel, I realise that you are probably American. But even so, surely
>> you can't possibly seriously try to use a phrase like "in desupport"
>> without some sense of shame for what you're doing to my beautiful
>> language ... ?
>
> Without much pride, these days, I must acknowledge that you are correct.
> But that lovely word is the official verbiage.

Official? You mean, Oracle uses it?

Last time I visited the United States on an American airline - probably was
American Airlines - as the plane stopped at the terminal gate we were told
"You will be de-planed momentarily". Huh? Aside from the idea of
de-planed, whose meaning I was able to guess at, why would they want to
de-plane me momentarily? I wanted to be "de-planed" permanently ...

Captain Pedantic wrote:
> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message
> news:1182469540.896327@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>> Captain Pedantic wrote:
>>
>>> Daniel, I realise that you are probably American. But even so, surely
>>> you can't possibly seriously try to use a phrase like "in desupport"
>>> without some sense of shame for what you're doing to my beautiful
>>> language ... ?
>> Without much pride, these days, I must acknowledge that you are correct.
>> But that lovely word is the official verbiage.
>
> Official? You mean, Oracle uses it?
>
> Last time I visited the United States on an American airline - probably was
> American Airlines - as the plane stopped at the terminal gate we were told
> "You will be de-planed momentarily". Huh? Aside from the idea of
> de-planed, whose meaning I was able to guess at, why would they want to
> de-plane me momentarily? I wanted to be "de-planed" permanently ...

http://www.oracle.com/technology/pro...upport10g.html

Bet now you're filled with envy. <g>
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University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)