i agree with JGP and OTC..... for goodness sakes, we coulda been bought by........ by...... ORACLE !!!!!!!!



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From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org on behalf of Jean Georges Perrin
Sent: Tue 10/3/2006 4:05 PM
To: doubleecho@your.com; informix-list@iiug.org
Subject: RE: Insider #75: Highlights: IBM Information On Demand 2006,TheNext Informix IDS Release...



I guess most of this is due to pessimistic old fogeys that can't remember
that Informix has never been capable of marketing its superior database.

I never say IIUG is marketing the database (and it's actually not what we
do).

There is no major announcement in any other database world as well. At least
we had a few, including very innovative solutions and a benchmark recently.

You may not see momentum around the product 'cause you're lost on an island,
I see quite a bit of it and sent facts about it recently.

I am pretty sure the next version is far from being doomed!

(I would not think I'd do that, but...) OTC said it as well. Stop looking at
the half-empty glass, start thinking positively and life will look far
better.

jgp

> -----Original Message-----
> From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-
> bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Double Echo
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 19:29
> To: informix-list@iiug.org
> Subject: Re: Insider #75: Highlights: IBM Information On Demand 2006,
> TheNext Informix IDS Release...
>
> Several key things here JGP.
>
> Why is it up to the IIUG to market Informix? That is what you are
> implying.
>
> Why is there no major application announcement regarding the use of
> Informix?
>
> Why is there no momentum with this product?
>
> Why isn't IBM putting some money into events and the product marketing?
>
> It appears that this next release is doomed to another misfire in the
> market
> from incompetence at every turn.
>
> Jean Georges Perrin wrote:
> > Christine,
> >
> > Please stop saying lies or speaking about things you do not have a clue
> > about. You have never been on the Board, you have been invited quite a
> few
> > times, and you were not on the conference calls, nor in the exchange
> between
> > the Board members.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On the subject of conferences, the bigger it is, the most expensive it
> is.
> >
> > When you have a users group lunch, it is basically free, when the
> > WAIUG/SEIUG do a regional conference, price is about $100, but they have
> a
> > huge crowd of volunteers to help them, then when you organise things
> like
> > IOD or IDUG, you have more costs, because you can not rely only on
> > volunteers...
> >
> > jgp
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-
> >> bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of elanleblanc@yahoo.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 00:25
> >> To: informix-list@iiug.org
> >> Subject: Re: Insider #75: Highlights: IBM Information On Demand
> 2006,The
> >> Next Informix IDS Release...
> >>
> >> TBP wrote:
> >>> Can people pay for the number of "days" they attend?
> >>> Can people get "half days"?
> >>>
> >>> Would you have got 4 times the number of people if the price was 500
> >>> Euros? Would it have been better to just get the people in at 500
> Euros?
> >>>
> >>> Still, a bit late now huh
> >> It would appear that no one is listening. IBM looks to the IIUG Board
> >> of Directors for guidance on the needs and desires of the community.
> >> The community has been clear on the issue of conferences since day 1.
> >> Yet, I don't recall the IIUG BoD taking these issues to IBM. On the
> >> other hand, IBM is a major sponsor of the IIUG (the trips to various
> >> venues for the BoD to meet and a myriad of justifiable, necessary
> >> expenses IBM quite rightly also foots); yet the IIUG BoD provides
> >> little support for IBM in promoting it's conferences. Such as in this
> >> Insider where the BoD finally deigned to mention IBM's upcoming IOD
> >> conference in Anaheim. They managed to do so without even mentioning
> >> there would be Informix content and by referring to DB2 yet again.
> >> They also failed to mention that this conference was designed to
> >> eliminate many (not all) of the Informix communities issues with past
> >> conferences.
> >>
> >> Perhaps if the BoD would push the community agenda and needs with IBM
> >> instead of it's own and support IBM's initiatives to support Informix
> >> (not the idiotic ones, of course), perhaps IBM would find a way to
> >> sponsor the types of conferences that would work for the community at
> >> large.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, I hope to see many of you in Washington, D.C.
> >>
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