Dallas?

Try st. louis. St. Louis is the murder capital of
the U.S... If you survive your connection through st.
louis think of the stories you can tell the family
when you get home...


> --- Dirk Gunsthövel <dirk@guncon.de> wrote:
>
> > Dallas is an option too... its only 30 mls or
> > something longer to Kansas
> > City.
> > I fly there often and never had any problem. And I
> > dont think thats because
> > they trust Germans a lot there ;-)
> >
> > Dirk
> >
> >
> > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> schrieb im
> > Newsbeitrag
> >
>
news:mailman.141.1198724183.20610.informix-list@iiug.org...
> > But OHare immigration is a total nightmare and
> well
> > worth avoiding
> >
> > Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
> > >
> > > Chicago is the closest.
> > > You may want to fly in and possibly switch
> > airlines on the US leg of your
> > > trip.
> > >
> > > > From: neil.truby@ardenta.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Kansas City, gateway to .....
> > > > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:00:16 +0000
> > > > To: informix-list@iiug.org
> > > >
> > > > No, I haven't moved house - no money - and
> > still live near Heathrow.
> > > >
> > > > I've looked on Expedia and am offered changes
> > in Washington, Newark,
> > > > Chicago, Atlanta or Dallas. None looks very
> > close to Kansas!
> > > >
> > > > I think Continental fly 767s - never fly
> > Transatlantic in a plane with
> > > only
> > > > 2 engines ;-)
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > > news:476DEF0F.6030703@oninit.com...
> > > > > Neil
> > > > >
> > > > > it should be 14 (ish) hours door to door
> > unless you've moved house
> > > :-). I
> > > > > normally fly Continental and the flights
> are
> > typical $600 - it cost
> > > me
> > > > > more to fly to Vienna for the European
> > conference
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > Neil Truby wrote:
> > > > >> Has anyone involved in choosing Kansas
> City
> > as the venue for the
> > > IIUG
> > > > >> Conferene ever tried to travel there from
> > "international"?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'll need to leave in early March to get
> > there on time, having first
> > > > >> arranged a mortgage to pay for the
> air-fare
> > ... ;-)
> > > > >>
> > > >
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I see...

I feel too old for adventure holidays I must say.
But its always cool to see how much you can get
for free in the us.

Take care,
Dirk

ps: St. Louis is really close. How are my surviving
odds if I drive from there to Kansas City by car (and
dependent probability if I drive back after surviving
too)?

"Jerry Hamilton" <bigdaddyjerry@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> Dallas?
>
> Try st. louis. St. Louis is the murder capital of
> the U.S... If you survive your connection through st.
> louis think of the stories you can tell the family
> when you get home...
>
>
>> --- Dirk Gunsthövel <dirk@guncon.de> wrote:
>>
>> > Dallas is an option too... its only 30 mls or
>> > something longer to Kansas
>> > City.
>> > I fly there often and never had any problem. And I
>> > dont think thats because
>> > they trust Germans a lot there ;-)
>> >
>> > Dirk
>> >
>> >
>> > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> schrieb im
>> > Newsbeitrag
>> >
>>
> news:mailman.141.1198724183.20610.informix-list@iiug.org...
>> > But OHare immigration is a total nightmare and
>> well
>> > worth avoiding
>> >
>> > Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Chicago is the closest.
>> > > You may want to fly in and possibly switch
>> > airlines on the US leg of your
>> > > trip.
>> > >
>> > > > From: neil.truby@ardenta.com
>> > > > Subject: Re: Kansas City, gateway to .....
>> > > > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:00:16 +0000
>> > > > To: informix-list@iiug.org
>> > > >
>> > > > No, I haven't moved house - no money - and
>> > still live near Heathrow.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've looked on Expedia and am offered changes
>> > in Washington, Newark,
>> > > > Chicago, Atlanta or Dallas. None looks very
>> > close to Kansas!
>> > > >
>> > > > I think Continental fly 767s - never fly
>> > Transatlantic in a plane with
>> > > only
>> > > > 2 engines ;-)
>> > > >
>> > > > regards
>> > > > Neil
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > > > news:476DEF0F.6030703@oninit.com...
>> > > > > Neil
>> > > > >
>> > > > > it should be 14 (ish) hours door to door
>> > unless you've moved house
>> > > :-). I
>> > > > > normally fly Continental and the flights
>> are
>> > typical $600 - it cost
>> > > me
>> > > > > more to fly to Vienna for the European
>> > conference
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Cheers
>> > > > > Paul
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Neil Truby wrote:
>> > > > >> Has anyone involved in choosing Kansas
>> City
>> > as the venue for the
>> > > IIUG
>> > > > >> Conferene ever tried to travel there from
>> > "international"?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I'll need to leave in early March to get
>> > there on time, having first
>> > > > >> arranged a mortgage to pay for the
>> air-fare
>> > ... ;-)
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
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>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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>> > > difference. Learn more
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Anyway, the point of it all is: in deference to us "internationals", could
we have the next conference is somewhere more accessible? ;-)
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"Dirk Gunsthövel" <dirk@guncon.de> wrote in message
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>I see...
>
> I feel too old for adventure holidays I must say.
> But its always cool to see how much you can get
> for free in the us.
>
> Take care,
> Dirk
>
> ps: St. Louis is really close. How are my surviving
> odds if I drive from there to Kansas City by car (and
> dependent probability if I drive back after surviving
> too)?
>
> "Jerry Hamilton" <bigdaddyjerry@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:mailman.148.1198768570.20610.informix-list@iiug.org...
>>
>> Dallas?
>>
>> Try st. louis. St. Louis is the murder capital of
>> the U.S... If you survive your connection through st.
>> louis think of the stories you can tell the family
>> when you get home...
>>
>>
>>> --- Dirk Gunsthövel <dirk@guncon.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Dallas is an option too... its only 30 mls or
>>> > something longer to Kansas
>>> > City.
>>> > I fly there often and never had any problem. And I
>>> > dont think thats because
>>> > they trust Germans a lot there ;-)
>>> >
>>> > Dirk
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> schrieb im
>>> > Newsbeitrag
>>> >
>>>
>> news:mailman.141.1198724183.20610.informix-list@iiug.org...
>>> > But OHare immigration is a total nightmare and
>>> well
>>> > worth avoiding
>>> >
>>> > Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Chicago is the closest.
>>> > > You may want to fly in and possibly switch
>>> > airlines on the US leg of your
>>> > > trip.
>>> > >
>>> > > > From: neil.truby@ardenta.com
>>> > > > Subject: Re: Kansas City, gateway to .....
>>> > > > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:00:16 +0000
>>> > > > To: informix-list@iiug.org
>>> > > >
>>> > > > No, I haven't moved house - no money - and
>>> > still live near Heathrow.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I've looked on Expedia and am offered changes
>>> > in Washington, Newark,
>>> > > > Chicago, Atlanta or Dallas. None looks very
>>> > close to Kansas!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I think Continental fly 767s - never fly
>>> > Transatlantic in a plane with
>>> > > only
>>> > > > 2 engines ;-)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > regards
>>> > > > Neil
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in
>>> > message
>>> > > > news:476DEF0F.6030703@oninit.com...
>>> > > > > Neil
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > it should be 14 (ish) hours door to door
>>> > unless you've moved house
>>> > > :-). I
>>> > > > > normally fly Continental and the flights
>>> are
>>> > typical $600 - it cost
>>> > > me
>>> > > > > more to fly to Vienna for the European
>>> > conference
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Cheers
>>> > > > > Paul
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Neil Truby wrote:
>>> > > > >> Has anyone involved in choosing Kansas
>>> City
>>> > as the venue for the
>>> > > IIUG
>>> > > > >> Conferene ever tried to travel there from
>>> > "international"?
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> I'll need to leave in early March to get
>>> > there on time, having first
>>> > > > >> arranged a mortgage to pay for the
>>> air-fare
>>> > ... ;-)
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> > > > Informix-list mailing list
>>> > > > Informix-list@iiug.org
>>> > > >
>>> > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> > about real people making a
>>> > > difference. Learn more
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
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>>> >
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Any valid, realistic suggestions?
Hey, there's an idea.... Have a "conference location" suggestion box at
conference with a questionnaire to allow people to submit ideas? Or put
one up on the iiug website? Using a questionnaire would perhaps trim
down on the number of "blow hole" suggestions.
Norma Jean
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Neil,

You're already looking to the "next" event before the first event is even off the ground. :-)

The reason KC was chosen was due to the large number of IBM employees who could be used as speakers without having IBM to spend a "dime" since they work down the road. This is supposed to be a "no frills" down and dirty userevent.



> From: neil.truby@ardenta.com
> Subject: Re: Kansas City, gateway to .....
> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:22:32 +0000
> To: informix-list@iiug.org
>
> Anyway, the point of it all is: in deference to us "internationals", could
> we have the next conference is somewhere more accessible? ;-)
> --
> Neil Truby t:01932 724027
> Director m:07798 811708
> Ardenta Limited e:neil.truby@ardenta.com
>
>
> "Dirk Gunsthövel" <dirk@guncon.de> wrote in message
> news:4773ee27$0$13120$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net...
> >I see...
> >
> > I feel too old for adventure holidays I must say.
> > But its always cool to see how much you can get
> > for free in the us.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Dirk
> >
> > ps: St. Louis is really close. How are my surviving
> > odds if I drive from there to Kansas City by car (and
> > dependent probability if I drive back after surviving
> > too)?
> >
> > "Jerry Hamilton" <bigdaddyjerry@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > news:mailman.148.1198768570.20610.informix-list@iiug.org...
> >>
> >> Dallas?
> >>
> >> Try st. louis. St. Louis is the murder capital of
> >> the U.S... If you survive your connection through st.
> >> louis think of the stories you can tell the family
> >> when you get home...
> >>
> >>
> >>> --- Dirk Gunsthövel <dirk@guncon.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Dallas is an option too... its only 30 mls or
> >>> > something longer to Kansas
> >>> > City.
> >>> > I fly there often and never had any problem. And I
> >>> > dont think thats because
> >>> > they trust Germans a lot there ;-)
> >>> >
> >>> > Dirk
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> schrieb im
> >>> > Newsbeitrag
> >>> >
> >>>
> >> news:mailman.141.1198724183.20610.informix-list@iiug.org...
> >>> > But OHare immigration is a total nightmare and
> >>> well
> >>> > worth avoiding
> >>> >
> >>> > Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Chicago is the closest.
> >>> > > You may want to fly in and possibly switch
> >>> > airlines on the US leg of your
> >>> > > trip.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > From: neil.truby@ardenta.com
> >>> > > > Subject: Re: Kansas City, gateway to .....
> >>> > > > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:00:16 +0000
> >>> > > > To: informix-list@iiug.org
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > No, I haven't moved house - no money - and
> >>> > still live near Heathrow.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I've looked on Expedia and am offered changes
> >>> > in Washington, Newark,
> >>> > > > Chicago, Atlanta or Dallas. None looks very
> >>> > close to Kansas!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I think Continental fly 767s - never fly
> >>> > Transatlantic in a plane with
> >>> > > only
> >>> > > > 2 engines ;-)
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > regards
> >>> > > > Neil
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in
> >>> > message
> >>> > > > news:476DEF0F.6030703@oninit.com...
> >>> > > > > Neil
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > it should be 14 (ish) hours door to door
> >>> > unless you've moved house
> >>> > > :-). I
> >>> > > > > normally fly Continental and the flights
> >>> are
> >>> > typical $600 - it cost
> >>> > > me
> >>> > > > > more to fly to Vienna for the European
> >>> > conference
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Cheers
> >>> > > > > Paul
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Neil Truby wrote:
> >>> > > > >> Has anyone involved in choosing Kansas
> >>> City
> >>> > as the venue for the
> >>> > > IIUG
> >>> > > > >> Conferene ever tried to travel there from
> >>> > "international"?
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> I'll need to leave in early March to get
> >>> > there on time, having first
> >>> > > > >> arranged a mortgage to pay for the
> >>> air-fare
> >>> > ... ;-)
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
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> >>> > > > Informix-list@iiug.org
> >>> > > >
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> >>> >
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>> You're already looking to the "next" event before the first event is even
>> off the ground. :-) The reason KC was chosen was due to the large number
>> of IBM employees who could be used as speakers without having IBM to
>> spend a "dime" since they work down the road. This is supposed to be a
>> "no frills" down and dirty user event.

Yes, all true. It's certainly a great value conference, to be able to
register for about £210.
It's just a difficult place to get to and - shock horror! - I'm going to
have to fly on a US airline at least part of the way to get there ;-)

Neil, Art,
..
I saw this on the late news last night, looked like a pretty good option
with the risk that they are a new carrier.
Art - this might work nicely for you, it might enable you to fly odd
hours and "puddle jump" half way.
..
Check this out: www.skybus.com
..
I don't know about overseas but flying in the states is pretty much a
"bus in the air/cattle truck" no frills experience these days unless you
pay the big bucks. Depending on what airport you can depart from on the
east/west coast, you can get to Kansas City, but you will have to change
planes in Columbus, Ohio (the main hub for this new carrier).
..
I queried the site.... I found a round trip price for $86.30 US
piggybacked with a round trip for $90.80 US and I got from New York
(Newburgh) to Kansas City with an overnight in Columbus to get to
conference. After conference I got back to New York on the return legs
of the round trips with no overnight in Columbus.
..
Details:
Flight 1, roundtrip = $86.30 US
Flight 2, roundtrip = $90.80 US
..
Flight1 : first leg: depart New York (Newburgh, NY) Friday April 25 at
10:54 AM
.. arrive Columbus, Ohio, Friday April 25 at
12:24 PM
(ok, you'd have an overnight in Columbus or you'd have only 4 minutes to
make the connection)
Flight 2: first leg: depart Columbus, Ohio, Saturday April 26 at 12:28
PM
.. arrive Kansas City, Missouri, Saturday April
26 at 1:14 PM
IIUG Conference...
Flight 2: return leg: depart Kansas City, Missouri, Thursday May 1 at
1:39 PM
.. arrive Columbus Ohio, Thursday May 1 at
4:14 PM
Flight 1: return leg: depart Columbus Ohio, Thursday May 1 at 6:24 PM
.. arrive New York (Newburgh, NY), Thursday
May 1 at 7:48 PM.
..
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Neil, Art,
..
>> I saw this on the late news last night, looked like a pretty good option
with the risk that they are a new carrier.

Thanks Norma. I booked a BA flight, change in Chicago to a United flight to
Kansas. The latest flight out of Kansas City consistent with getting a
same-night flight home leaves at 4pm. I understand that the airport is a
long way from the Marriott so I'll have to miss the last arvo of the
conference.

Paul W warns against O'Hare Immigration. Having just come back from the US,
and added Tampa to my repetoire of US Immigration posts, I have to say that
they are uniformly miserable whereever you go. The lines are worst in NY
and Orlando in my experience, where you can easily queue for an hour.
There's never the slightest smile, let alone "Welcome Back to the US, Mr
Truby" from Immigration. This is in contrast to the more-or-less uniformly
friendly attitude of the "ordinary" Americans we meet once there. There's
quite a lot of pressure from the US Tourist Industry for the Immigration
Service to smarten up its act and create a better First Impression. I was
talking to one of the Virgin Atlantic hosties on the way home and she said
they get the same attitude: she thinks they may deliberately be trained to
spurn any personal interaction in order not to beinfluenced. It's a shame
though, becasue almost every visitor to the US I know comments on this.

Neil Truby wrote:
> "Sebastian, Norma J." <NormaJean.Sebastian@tellabs.com> wrote in message
> news:mailman.157.1198808169.20610.informix-list@iiug.org...
> Neil, Art,
> .
>>> I saw this on the late news last night, looked like a pretty good option
> with the risk that they are a new carrier.
>
> Thanks Norma. I booked a BA flight, change in Chicago to a United flight to
> Kansas. The latest flight out of Kansas City consistent with getting a
> same-night flight home leaves at 4pm. I understand that the airport is a
> long way from the Marriott so I'll have to miss the last arvo of the
> conference.
>
> Paul W warns against O'Hare Immigration. Having just come back from the US,
> and added Tampa to my repetoire of US Immigration posts, I have to say that
> they are uniformly miserable whereever you go. The lines are worst in NY
> and Orlando in my experience, where you can easily queue for an hour.
> There's never the slightest smile, let alone "Welcome Back to the US, Mr
> Truby" from Immigration. This is in contrast to the more-or-less uniformly
> friendly attitude of the "ordinary" Americans we meet once there. There's
> quite a lot of pressure from the US Tourist Industry for the Immigration
> Service to smarten up its act and create a better First Impression. I was
> talking to one of the Virgin Atlantic hosties on the way home and she said
> they get the same attitude: she thinks they may deliberately be trained to
> spurn any personal interaction in order not to beinfluenced. It's a shame
> though, becasue almost every visitor to the US I know comments on this.
>
>
The airport is well less than the hour from the airport, MCI is one of
the easiest airport to fly in and out of.

Never had a single problem with US immigration apart from the length of
the queues in O'Hare. I've done 15 minutes flight to flight via Newark
and that included immagration. I find Housten the easiest for immigration.

Cheers
Paul

> From: neil.truby@ardenta.com
> Subject: Re: Kansas City, gateway to .....
> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:59:54 +0000
> To: informix-list@iiug.org
>
> >> You're already looking to the "next" event before the first event is even
> >> off the ground. :-) The reason KC was chosen was due to the large number
> >> of IBM employees who could be used as speakers without having IBM to
> >> spend a "dime" since they work down the road. This is supposed to be a
> >> "no frills" down and dirty user event.
>
> Yes, all true. It's certainly a great value conference, to be able to
> register for about £210.
> It's just a difficult place to get to and - shock horror! - I'm going to
> have to fly on a US airline at least part of the way to get there ;-)
>
Consider it a small sacrifice.
Just don't wear a kilt or a T-shirt that the flight crew might find offensive.
Or just see if you can find a flight on Hooters Air. ;-)

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