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> If you really want a Linux education, head over to
> www.linuxfromscratch.org and get the
> book on building your own linux system from scratch, it will
> give you more experience
> than any distro could ever give you, and you can then make
> better choices on Linux
> distributions after going through the best tutorial on Linux
> systems ever done.
>
> -DE-

Thanks, Double Echo. I'm an under-the-hood kind of guy and this looks
like it would be perfect for me.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org
> [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Double Echo
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:10 PM
> To: informix-list@iiug.org
> Subject: Re: SE & 4GL Migration
>
> Julien Mills wrote:
> > On 2006-05-09, Double Echo <doubleecho@your.com> wrote:
> >> lhelton@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Now don't laugh....we are still running SE 5.0 & 4GL 4.10
> >>> on SCO Unix 3.2v4.2
> >>>
> >>> All my apps are still humming, but lord please don't let
> my hardware
> >>> fail! I'm too embarrassed to tell you what the hardware
> is.....but hey,
> >>> it works! I'm an old-time Informix developer (with a
> pretty face), that
> >>> feels trapped in the old days.
> >>>
> >>> Planning to migrate away from SCO and upgrade to SE 7.25
> & 4GL/SQL 7.32
> >>> on a Linux platform. Any recommendations for Linux flavor?
> >> SuSE 10. But also consider AMD Opteron not Intel Xeon.
> You'll get more
> >> for the money. Should also be thinking x86_64 if you're
> in the x86 space.
> >> If you're into other kinds of hardware, IBM has a lot
> going on with Power5
> >> you should check out too.
> >
> > Why are you guys all gung ho on SuSE ???
> >
> >
>
> 1. Historically a better interface with YAST for managing
> major software components
> compared with others.
> 2. A lot of leading kernel efforts are being done by SuSE
> people, head over to
> www.kernel.org and look at who's doing what.
> 3. Favors RPM installations, although you aren't forced to
> use RPM exclusively.
> 4. Historically easier to install and set up than most of
> the others, however, a
> lot of the other distros have improved dramatically. I
> heard Gentoo either has
> a GUI installer or one is coming real soon now.
> 5. Major vendor support for drivers with more of an
> international perspective.
> 6. Excellent platform for businesses with limited Linux
> experience. The sys admin is
> a lot easier for inexperienced sys admins than other distros.
> 7. Most of the features only now showing up in other
> distros SuSE has had for quite
> some time.
>
> Don't get me wrong, Gentoo is fantastic, RedHat is ok, but
> lacks a YAST, and Knoppix is
> over the top at least on boot-cd-magic and bleeding edge
> boots-on-anything technology.
> RedHat is improving on system admin tools but still requires
> a lot of behind the scenes
> command-line tinkering. YaST is open source too, RH should
> consider using it.
>
> If you really want a Linux education, head over to
> www.linuxfromscratch.org and get the
> book on building your own linux system from scratch, it will
> give you more experience
> than any distro could ever give you, and you can then make
> better choices on Linux
> distributions after going through the best tutorial on Linux
> systems ever done.
>
> -DE-
>
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Mike Badar wrote:
>> If you really want a Linux education, head over to
>> www.linuxfromscratch.org and get the
>> book on building your own linux system from scratch, it will
>> give you more experience
>> than any distro could ever give you, and you can then make
>> better choices on Linux
>> distributions after going through the best tutorial on Linux
>> systems ever done.
>>
>> -DE-
>
> Thanks, Double Echo. I'm an under-the-hood kind of guy and this looks
> like it would be perfect for me.
>
> Mike
>

No problem.

By the way... I neglected to mention for those new to SuSE, that the
fundamental difference between the desktop version and the SLES version(s)
is support. The desktop version comes with unlimited update support via
the internet, once you set up automagic updates. The online support forums
at Novell are very good at help also for immediate help outside paid support,
similar to c.d.i. The SLES version(s) are paid support per CPU or whatever
model they are using now, and typically cater more to the server crowd. This
means you get more support from Novell, and more support out-of-the-box for
SCSI, SANs, ( i.e. EMC drivers ) than the desktop version. In fact some SAN
environments won't support the desktop environment you'll have to move "up"
to the SLES version or whatever they are now calling it. SLES is very good,
but keep in mind you can't do automagic updates without the paid support, this
is the key difference between the two products. The kernel is the same it's
the support model. If you decide to compile your own kernel outside of the
SLES distribution you also run the risk of falling out of warranty, etc as
would be expected. Just an FYI, probably the same rules apply for other
distros like RedHat, etc etc.

-DE-

See also: support-forums.novell.com and opensuse.org for more info on
forum-based support. I highly recommend using a news-reader software
program to view their threads, it is high volume traffic.