> Actually, the Creator is UPA, not Sbus, based. Just got my Creator 3D a
> few hours ago. Found out it isn't supported in NetBSD 1.6.2, at least
> not out of the box.

yup knew that - don't ask me why i mentioned that the U2 was Sbus ...

Dave Uhring wrote:

> Larger HDDs are available and at reasonable prices. I just bought 2
> 18.2GB Seagate Cheetah drives from serversupply.com for $50 ea. including
> shipping. You should still be able to get the developer's package cluster
> to install, specially if you deselect such things as GNOME, the app
> server, name server, etc.

I just bought a Seagate Barracuda, 18.2 GB, from ebay for $9.50. My big
fear there is that it won't work in the Ultra-2. I did buy a 9.1GB
Seagate Barracuda, model ST39173WC from ebay previously, but my U2
wouldn't recognize it. Turns out I had to set a jumper "force
single-ended", but the WC models lack such a jumper. I'm hoping this
Barracuda I just bought will work. But this time I learned my lesson,
and looked for a Seagate drive that had a jumper where one could force
single-ended mode only. In fact, it was billed as a Single-Ended drive
by the seller. Including shipping, the total came to $18.75. Not bad
at all, I'd say, provided this drive works. But then, eBay can be risky.

> NetBSD-1.6 did run pretty well on my Ultra-1/170E but as you have
> discovered the C3D framebuffer is not supported. If you want to use a BSD
> then OpenBSD should be a good choice except for problems with its hme
> driver. It's necessary to configure X with an editor; there's a README in
> /usr/X11R6.

Well, my Ultra-2 came with two framebuffers: two nearly identical
cgsix/turbogx. As I soon found out, they were 8-bit, although supported
by NetBSD. However, I'm afraid 8-bit just won't do. For a pure server,
well, I can see. I don't see the point in having two 8-bit
framebuffers. Oh wow, a dual-headed 256-color setup.

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:54:19 -0400, Donn Miller wrote:

> I just bought a Seagate Barracuda, 18.2 GB, from ebay for $9.50. My big
> fear there is that it won't work in the Ultra-2. I did buy a 9.1GB
> Seagate Barracuda, model ST39173WC from ebay previously, but my U2
> wouldn't recognize it. Turns out I had to set a jumper "force
> single-ended", but the WC models lack such a jumper. I'm hoping this
> Barracuda I just bought will work. But this time I learned my lesson,
> and looked for a Seagate drive that had a jumper where one could force
> single-ended mode only. In fact, it was billed as a Single-Ended drive
> by the seller. Including shipping, the total came to $18.75. Not bad
> at all, I'd say, provided this drive works. But then, eBay can be risky.

You can readily check the specs for Seagate drives using Google. Input
the model number and site:seagate.com. Select the second (usually) hit.

I'm using Ultra-1 machines but the U-2's use the same drive controller.
In this machine I have:

ST39103LCSUN9.0G and ST34371W SUN4.2G.

The drives I recently bought are ST318203LC and do not have the SUN
firmware but work perfectly. Unless you really need the drive space the
ST39103LC or ST39102LC drives are your best choice since they dissipate
less power than most drives and spin at 10k rpm.

The system handbook at sunsolve.sun.com does provide you with a list of
known_to_work drives.

> Well, my Ultra-2 came with two framebuffers: two nearly identical
> cgsix/turbogx. As I soon found out, they were 8-bit, although supported
> by NetBSD. However, I'm afraid 8-bit just won't do. For a pure server,
> well, I can see. I don't see the point in having two 8-bit
> framebuffers. Oh wow, a dual-headed 256-color setup.

In 1985 I thought a 4-bit color depth was pretty neat :-)

Even if your new drive doesn't work properly you can still get Solaris
installed on that 2.1GB drive. Just leave out some of the stuff you don't
need. Select the Developer's package cluster then deselect the unwanted
packages.

If you really want a BSD then use OpenBSD since it has support for the
Creator 3D framebuffer. It's just a little bit of hassle to install and
then configure X. If you don't need the full network bandwidth OpenBSD's
hme driver is adequate.

> ..However I heard that the Creator3D can manage higher resolutions than
> the Eliet3D, I never tried that however, I already have a nice resolution.

.... yes the Elite 3D does not appear to be able to support 1280x1024 (at any
frequency) using a 13W3 -> HD15 adaptor :-(

so it looks as if I'll be sticking with the Creator after all .....

Regards
AT.

Andrew Tyson wrote:
>>..However I heard that the Creator3D can manage higher resolutions than
>>the Eliet3D, I never tried that however, I already have a nice resolution.
>
>
> ... yes the Elite 3D does not appear to be able to support 1280x1024 (at any
> frequency) using a 13W3 -> HD15 adaptor :-(
>
> so it looks as if I'll be sticking with the Creator after all .....
>
> Regards
> AT.
>
>

Sure it does. I am viewing this posting right now using a Elite 3D with
a 13W3 -> HD15 adapter at 1280x1024@76 on a Samsung172N LCD. I had
difficulty finding the adapter initially, but a poster in this group (Ed
Hall) set me up:

http://www.ultraspec.com
part number: 1395-SUN-001F

Rob

> Sure it does. I am viewing this posting right now using a Elite 3D with
> a 13W3 -> HD15 adapter at 1280x1024@76 on a Samsung172N LCD. I had
> difficulty finding the adapter initially, but a poster in this group (Ed
> Hall) set me up:

hmm - maybe it's a limitation of my adaptor, or the 19" Sony Trinitron I've
got it hooked
up to. in any case when testing 1280x1024 res the screen repaints an
1150x900 desktop
in the top left hand corner, and a black/speckled inverted 'L' shape along
the bottom/right.

rgds
AT

In article
<40fc51ae$0$15048$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>,
Andrew Tyson wrote:

>up to. in any case when testing 1280x1024 res the screen repaints an
>1150x900 desktop
>in the top left hand corner, and a black/speckled inverted 'L' shape along
>the bottom/right.

Set the framebuffer and either

a) reboot
b) log out of your graphic session, login at the command line as root,
restart dtlogin.

--
Andre.

Email: andre at africa dot purplecow dot org.