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#1 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:58 PM

Hi,

I want to use Dell optical disks in my blade 1000 system. Does anybody know
this will work or not?
The Dell disks are Seagate ST373307FC.
I know Dell produces some of the seagate disks with their own firmware in it
and I believe it's called "green label". Anybody who knows how I can
distinguish a real seagate from a dell-firmware-equipped hd from the
outside?

Thanks
P

#2 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:58 PM

> I want to use Dell optical disks in my blade 1000 system. Does anybody
know
> this will work or not?
> The Dell disks are Seagate ST373307FC.
> I know Dell produces some of the seagate disks with their own firmware in
it
> and I believe it's called "green label". Anybody who knows how I can
> distinguish a real seagate from a dell-firmware-equipped hd from the
> outside?

Well the Seagate ST373307FC is one of the drives Sun sells for the Sun Blade
1000.
If it's a generic drive it may not be partitioned the same as a Sun OEM
drive and wouldn't have Sun firmware.
Sun puts their part number on the label and sometimes even has a Sun logo.
I'd assume Dell would do something similar to distinguish their drive from a
generic Seagate.

Trinean

#3 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:58 PM

So, what you mean is that these disks will not work at all?

"Trinean" <trinean@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4519b609$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
>> I want to use Dell optical disks in my blade 1000 system. Does anybody
> know
>> this will work or not?
>> The Dell disks are Seagate ST373307FC.
>> I know Dell produces some of the seagate disks with their own firmware in
> it
>> and I believe it's called "green label". Anybody who knows how I can
>> distinguish a real seagate from a dell-firmware-equipped hd from the
>> outside?
>
> Well the Seagate ST373307FC is one of the drives Sun sells for the Sun
> Blade
> 1000.
> If it's a generic drive it may not be partitioned the same as a Sun OEM
> drive and wouldn't have Sun firmware.
> Sun puts their part number on the label and sometimes even has a Sun logo.
> I'd assume Dell would do something similar to distinguish their drive from
> a
> generic Seagate.
>
> Trinean
>
>

#4 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:58 PM

* Peter Huybrechts:

> I want to use Dell optical disks in my blade 1000 system. Does anybody know
> this will work or not?
> The Dell disks are Seagate ST373307FC.

These are hard disks, not optical disks.

> I know Dell produces some of the seagate disks with their own firmware in it

Dell doesn't produce disks. What Dell does is ordering disks with
modified firmware. In case of Dell, the modification usually is limited
to a different ID string.

> and I believe it's called "green label". Anybody who knows how I can
> distinguish a real seagate from a dell-firmware-equipped hd from the
> outside?

On the Dell P/N?

Benjamin

#5 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:58 PM

Peter Huybrechts wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to use Dell optical disks in my blade 1000 system. Does anybody know
> this will work or not?
> The Dell disks are Seagate ST373307FC.
> I know Dell produces some of the seagate disks with their own firmware in it
> and I believe it's called "green label". Anybody who knows how I can
> distinguish a real seagate from a dell-firmware-equipped hd from the
> outside?
>
> Thanks
> P
>
>
I have two 73GB Dell OEM'd drives in one Sunblade 1000.
Solaris recognizes the drives and formated it just fine... Maybe I'm
missing some fundamental firmware functionality that could only be found
in the Sun firmware, but I have yet to experience what I'd be missing...
In other words: mine work OK...

To recognize if it's a Dell firmware'd disk, look on the label, you
should see a FIRMWARE DExx on it, (xx being 18 in me case), the DE means
Dell...

There are tools to wipe that out and restore a generic firmware, not
sure if you can apply the Sun firmware back to it after the fact(which
was delivered in on of the Solaris patches). I decided to not take the
risk to mangle the disk by playing with firmware tools...

#6 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:58 PM

Ok, thanks!!
I think I'll buy the Dell disks :-)

"UNIX Museum" <unixmuseum@verizon.com> wrote in message
news:SowSg.3252$Kw1.1459@trnddc05...
> Peter Huybrechts wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to use Dell optical disks in my blade 1000 system. Does anybody
>> know this will work or not?
>> The Dell disks are Seagate ST373307FC.
>> I know Dell produces some of the seagate disks with their own firmware in
>> it and I believe it's called "green label". Anybody who knows how I can
>> distinguish a real seagate from a dell-firmware-equipped hd from the
>> outside?
>>
>> Thanks
>> P
> I have two 73GB Dell OEM'd drives in one Sunblade 1000.
> Solaris recognizes the drives and formated it just fine... Maybe I'm
> missing some fundamental firmware functionality that could only be found
> in the Sun firmware, but I have yet to experience what I'd be missing...
> In other words: mine work OK...
>
> To recognize if it's a Dell firmware'd disk, look on the label, you should
> see a FIRMWARE DExx on it, (xx being 18 in me case), the DE means Dell...
>
> There are tools to wipe that out and restore a generic firmware, not sure
> if you can apply the Sun firmware back to it after the fact(which was
> delivered in on of the Solaris patches). I decided to not take the risk
> to mangle the disk by playing with firmware tools...

#7 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:58 PM

Peter Huybrechts wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to use Dell optical disks in my blade 1000 system. Does anybody know
> this will work or not?
> The Dell disks are Seagate ST373307FC.
> I know Dell produces some of the seagate disks with their own firmware in it
> and I believe it's called "green label". Anybody who knows how I can
> distinguish a real seagate from a dell-firmware-equipped hd from the
> outside?
>
> Thanks
> P
>
>
I've not used Dell hard disks, but I have a mixture of lots of SCSI
disks and with one exception (using a modern Compaq disk in an old Sparc
20), I've never had any problems using any old disk I can find.

In fact, I found the Compaq disks worked fine if they were first labeled
in an Ultra class machine then moved to the older SPARCstation 20.

So whilst I can't guarantee it, you will probably find the Dell disks
will work fine.

--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form: month-year@southminster-branch-line.org.uk
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://witm.sourceforge.net/ (Web based Mathematica front end)

#8 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:58 PM

Ok! thanks!
Peter

"Dave (from the UK)" <see-my-signature@southminster-branch-line.org.uk>
wrote in message news:451ba4f4@212.67.96.135...
> Peter Huybrechts wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to use Dell optical disks in my blade 1000 system. Does anybody
>> know this will work or not?
>> The Dell disks are Seagate ST373307FC.
>> I know Dell produces some of the seagate disks with their own firmware in
>> it and I believe it's called "green label". Anybody who knows how I can
>> distinguish a real seagate from a dell-firmware-equipped hd from the
>> outside?
>>
>> Thanks
>> P
> I've not used Dell hard disks, but I have a mixture of lots of SCSI disks
> and with one exception (using a modern Compaq disk in an old Sparc 20),
> I've never had any problems using any old disk I can find.
>
> In fact, I found the Compaq disks worked fine if they were first labeled
> in an Ultra class machine then moved to the older SPARCstation 20.
>
> So whilst I can't guarantee it, you will probably find the Dell disks will
> work fine.
>
> --
> Dave (from the UK)
>
> Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
> It is always of the form: month-year@southminster-branch-line.org.uk
> Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.
>
> http://witm.sourceforge.net/ (Web based Mathematica front end)

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