Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?

Running David Tong's excellent "fbinfo" script yields;

huge{~}: fbinfo
ffb@1e is FFB2+ Vertical Creator 3D 1280x1024x67 Monitor type 4 (Sun 19" monitor)

The monitor is huge, heavy, old and uses loads of power, so I'd like
to replace it with a flat panel, if possible.

Unfortunately, graphics hardware is one of the central bits of the yawning
gap in my knowledge ...

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"Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message
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> Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?
>
Yes it is. I am running two Benq 992 19 inch LCD on my U 60. I am using
the Creator UPA video cards - no issues

Good luck

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Huge wrote:

> Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?

Yep; I use Sun's 18" LCD monitor on mine (on the relatively rare
occassion that I boot it up and require console access).

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Huge wrote:
> Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?
>
> Running David Tong's excellent "fbinfo" script yields;
>
> huge{~}: fbinfo
> ffb@1e is FFB2+ Vertical Creator 3D 1280x1024x67 Monitor type 4 (Sun 19" monitor)
>
> The monitor is huge, heavy, old and uses loads of power, so I'd like
> to replace it with a flat panel, if possible.
>
> Unfortunately, graphics hardware is one of the central bits of the yawning
> gap in my knowledge ...
>

Yes, as others have said you can. You will need to get an adapter to VGA
of course. Make sure whatever frame buffer (aka graphics card) you have
in your U60 will generate the resolution of the display. Otherwise
interpolation is used, which does not work too well. I'm using a Creator
3D in a U80 at 1600x1200.

The Elite3D, which is found in some U60s will not work at 1600x1200.

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On 2007-03-09, Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Huge wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?
>
> Yep; I use Sun's 18" LCD monitor on mine

What I really wanted to know was can I drive arbitrary LCD flat panels
from eBay? Is there a FAQ I should have read before posting this?

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On 2007-03-10, Dave (from the UK) <see-my-signature@southminster-branch-line.org.uk> wrote:
> Huge wrote:
>> Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?
>>
>> Running David Tong's excellent "fbinfo" script yields;
>>
>> huge{~}: fbinfo
>> ffb@1e is FFB2+ Vertical Creator 3D 1280x1024x67 Monitor type 4 (Sun 19" monitor)
>>
>> The monitor is huge, heavy, old and uses loads of power, so I'd like
>> to replace it with a flat panel, if possible.
>>
>> Unfortunately, graphics hardware is one of the central bits of the yawning
>> gap in my knowledge ...
>>
>
> Yes, as others have said you can. You will need to get an adapter to VGA
> of course.

I have those - I'm looking at one right now, since it's on my Storagepack!

> Make sure whatever frame buffer (aka graphics card) you have
> in your U60 will generate the resolution of the display. Otherwise
> interpolation is used, which does not work too well. I'm using a Creator
> 3D in a U80 at 1600x1200.

OK, that's the kind of stuff I need to know, I think.

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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:39:25 +0000, Huge wrote:
> Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?
>
> Running David Tong's excellent "fbinfo" script yields;
>
> huge{~}: fbinfo
> ffb@1e is FFB2+ Vertical Creator 3D 1280x1024x67 Monitor type 4 (Sun 19" monitor)
>

Yes. I drive two Dell 2001FP's off two Creator 3D's here. Works great. I
previously had them in my U60, now they're running in a Blade 2000. The
C3D was a very nice card for its time, and is one of the better options
for the U60 without spending huge $$$.

You'll want to get the 13W3-to-VGA adapter(s) if you don't already have
them. Get only the genuine Sun PN 130-3034 adapters - be careful of
knockoff adapters, they frequently don't handle the sync conversion
correctly and leave you with an unusable signal. You may also find that
you can only run the flat panels at a 60Hz refresh rate (not really a
problem since you don't have the actual scan refreshes to deal with, but
some software configuration may be required). "man fbconfig".

According to Huge <huge@huge.org.uk>:
> Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?
>
> Running David Tong's excellent "fbinfo" script yields;
>
> huge{~}: fbinfo
> ffb@1e is FFB2+ Vertical Creator 3D 1280x1024x67 Monitor type 4 (Sun 19" monitor)
>
> The monitor is huge, heavy, old and uses loads of power, so I'd like
> to replace it with a flat panel, if possible.
>
> Unfortunately, graphics hardware is one of the central bits of the yawning
> gap in my knowledge ...

Well ... ffbconfig -prconf shows:

================================================== ====================
--- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 ---
Type: double-buffered FFB2+ with Z-buffer
Board: rev 2 (Vertical)
PROM Information: @(#)ffb2p.fth 2.9 98/07/14
FBC: version 0x3241906d
DAC: Brooktree 9070, version 1 (Pac2)
3DRAM: Mitsubishi 130b, version 2
EDID Data: Available - EDID version 1 revision 3
Monitor Sense ID: 7 (Unknown 38x30cm RGB color monitor)
Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
1280x1024x60, 640x480x60, 640x480x60i, 1280x1024x60c
Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x60
================================================== ====================

And I am using a KDS 19" LCD monitor which I have had for
perhaps three years or so. I used it on my Ultra-2 for a while prior to
the Ultra-60 -- again with a FFB2+ framebuffer.

Note that the system does not recognize the monitor, because of
the signals lost in the 13W3 to HD-15 adaptor, so it was necessary to
manually configure the resolution. (This particular monitor doesn't do
1152x900 -- it selects 1152x850 instead, so the standard default
resolution does not work -- but more recent ones seem to be quite happy
with 1152x900.

One reason for the change to LCD (other than power conservation)
was the sheer weight of it when it sat on top of the Ultra-2 -- making
changes in hardware rather difficult. :-)

Good Luck,
DoN.
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On 2007-03-11, DoN. Nichols <dnichols@d-and-d.com> wrote:
> According to Huge <huge@huge.org.uk>:
>> Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?
>>
>> Running David Tong's excellent "fbinfo" script yields;
>>
>> huge{~}: fbinfo
>> ffb@1e is FFB2+ Vertical Creator 3D 1280x1024x67 Monitor type 4 (Sun 19" monitor)
>>
>> The monitor is huge, heavy, old and uses loads of power, so I'd like
>> to replace it with a flat panel, if possible.
>>
>> Unfortunately, graphics hardware is one of the central bits of the yawning
>> gap in my knowledge ...
>
> Well ... ffbconfig -prconf shows:
>

[snippage]

Thanks, DoN, and everyone else. I'm a slightly happier bunny now.




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"Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message
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> Is it possible to use an LCD flat panel display on my Ultra 60?
>
> Running David Tong's excellent "fbinfo" script yields;
>
> huge{~}: fbinfo
> ffb@1e is FFB2+ Vertical Creator 3D 1280x1024x67 Monitor type 4 (Sun
19" monitor)
>
> The monitor is huge, heavy, old and uses loads of power, so I'd like
> to replace it with a flat panel, if possible.
>
> Unfortunately, graphics hardware is one of the central bits of the yawning
> gap in my knowledge ...

Since a Sun LCD works on both an Ultra 10 and a Sun Blade 1000 using a
Creator 3D card I can't see why it wouldn't work on an Ultra 60.

Trinean