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Old 05-24-2008, 07:02 AM
Charles Lindsey
 
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Default The Great SPARC Floppy Muddle

Having attempted to relocate a Flopy Drive from a SPARC-5 to an Ultra-2,
and encountered all sorts of misfeatures, bugs and incompatibilities, I
have written it all up on my website at
http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/floppy-muddle.html
Hopefully, this will provide a general guide to how SPARCs and Solaris
(mis)handles floppies.

Comments will be welcomed.

Share and Enjoy!

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Old 05-29-2008, 10:32 AM
Dave
 
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Charles Lindsey wrote:
> Having attempted to relocate a Flopy Drive from a SPARC-5 to an Ultra-2,
> and encountered all sorts of misfeatures, bugs and incompatibilities, I
> have written it all up on my website at
> http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/floppy-muddle.html
> Hopefully, this will provide a general guide to how SPARCs and Solaris
> (mis)handles floppies.
>
> Comments will be welcomed.


I suspect few people now are going to be using floppies in Suns.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:32 AM
erik magnuson
 
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Dave wrote:
> Charles Lindsey wrote:
>
>> Having attempted to relocate a Flopy Drive from a SPARC-5 to an Ultra-2,
>> and encountered all sorts of misfeatures, bugs and incompatibilities, I
>> have written it all up on my website at
>> http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/floppy-muddle.html
>> Hopefully, this will provide a general guide to how SPARCs and Solaris
>> (mis)handles floppies.
>>
>> Comments will be welcomed.

>
>
> I suspect few people now are going to be using floppies in Suns.


I found that an external USB floppy drive 'just works' with Solaris 10,
though haven't done anything beyond showing that it works. FWIW, I
bought the external drive to help make a recovery floppy for her laptop.

- Erik
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:32 AM
Cydrome Leader
 
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Default Re: The Great SPARC Floppy Muddle

In comp.sys.sun.hardware Dave <foo@coo.com> wrote:
> Charles Lindsey wrote:
>> Having attempted to relocate a Flopy Drive from a SPARC-5 to an Ultra-2,
>> and encountered all sorts of misfeatures, bugs and incompatibilities, I
>> have written it all up on my website at
>> http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/floppy-muddle.html
>> Hopefully, this will provide a general guide to how SPARCs and Solaris
>> (mis)handles floppies.
>>
>> Comments will be welcomed.

>
> I suspect few people now are going to be using floppies in Suns.


or using floppies anywhere at all.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:32 AM
AGT
 
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 23:29:09 -0700, erik magnuson wrote:

> Dave wrote:
>> Charles Lindsey wrote:
>>
>>> Having attempted to relocate a Flopy Drive from a SPARC-5 to an Ultra-2,
>>> and encountered all sorts of misfeatures, bugs and incompatibilities, I
>>> have written it all up on my website at
>>> http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/floppy-muddle.html
>>> Hopefully, this will provide a general guide to how SPARCs and Solaris
>>> (mis)handles floppies.
>>> Comments will be welcomed.

>> I suspect few people now are going to be using floppies in Suns.


If you have a PC-DOS floppy you should be able to make an image of it
and net that over and use lofiadm to mount the iso

> I found that an external USB floppy drive 'just works' with Solaris 10,
> though haven't done anything beyond showing that it works. FWIW, I
> bought the external drive to help make a recovery floppy for her laptop.


Since when is an Ultra 2 a laptop?
Its an SBUS based SPARC machine - where are you going to
plug in the external USB drive?

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Old 05-29-2008, 10:32 AM
erik magnuson
 
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AGT wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2008 23:29:09 -0700, erik magnuson wrote:
>
>
>>Dave wrote:
>>
>>>Charles Lindsey wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Having attempted to relocate a Flopy Drive from a SPARC-5 to an Ultra-2,
>>>>and encountered all sorts of misfeatures, bugs and incompatibilities, I
>>>>have written it all up on my website at
>>>> http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/floppy-muddle.html
>>>>Hopefully, this will provide a general guide to how SPARCs and Solaris
>>>>(mis)handles floppies.
>>>>Comments will be welcomed.
>>>
>>>I suspect few people now are going to be using floppies in Suns.

>
>
> If you have a PC-DOS floppy you should be able to make an image of it
> and net that over and use lofiadm to mount the iso
>
>
>>I found that an external USB floppy drive 'just works' with Solaris 10,
>>though haven't done anything beyond showing that it works. FWIW, I
>>bought the external drive to help make a recovery floppy for her laptop.

>
>
> Since when is an Ultra 2 a laptop?
> Its an SBUS based SPARC machine - where are you going to
> plug in the external USB drive?


My comment about the laptop was in reference to my wife's laptop, NOT
the OP's Ultra 2 (accidentally edited out the reference to my wife).
Since almost all new laptops (and quite a few desktops) lack a floppy
drive (not a big loss), having an external USB floppy can be handy. The
point I was trying to make was that the external USB floppy drive 'just
works' with Solaris 10 on a box recent enough to support a USB port.

- Erik
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:27 PM
AGT
 
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 22:15:38 -0700, erik magnuson wrote:

> AGT wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 23:29:09 -0700, erik magnuson wrote:
>>>Dave wrote:
>>>>Charles Lindsey who has far too much time on his hands wrote:
>>>>>Having attempted to relocate a Flopy Drive from a SPARC-5 to an Ultra-2,
>>>>>and encountered all sorts of misfeatures, bugs and incompatibilities, I
>>>>>have written it all up on my website at
>>>>> http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/floppy-muddle.html
>>>>>Hopefully, this will provide a general guide to how SPARCs and Solaris
>>>>>(mis)handles floppies.
>>>>>Comments will be welcomed.
>>>>I suspect few people now are going to be using floppies in Suns.


Ditto - although I have a couple still on OLD SPARCs

>> If you have a PC-DOS floppy you should be able to make an image of it
>> and net that over and use lofiadm to mount the iso
>>>I found that an external USB floppy drive 'just works' with Solaris 10,
>>>though haven't done anything beyond showing that it works. FWIW, I
>>>bought the external drive to help make a recovery floppy for her laptop.

>> Since when is an Ultra 2 a laptop?
>> Its an SBUS based SPARC machine - where are you going to
>> plug in the external USB drive?

> My comment about the laptop was in reference to my wife's laptop, NOT
> the OP's Ultra 2 (accidentally edited out the reference to my wife).
> Since almost all new laptops (and quite a few desktops) lack a floppy
> drive (not a big loss), having an external USB floppy can be handy. The
> point I was trying to make was that the external USB floppy drive 'just
> works' with Solaris 10 on a box recent enough to support a USB port.


It was off-topic AFAICT : > optimistic as well. x86 on Solaris has
a way to go yet. Many things are still problematic on my laptop
that shouldnt be. Im at b83 something too. My suspicion is that
SOME USB floppies would work - not all : <

And a waste of money since Solaris only reads/writes/mounts ancient PC-DOS
FAT disks you can simply 'iso' a floppy and use lofiadm to mount it.

>
> - Erik


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Old 06-02-2008, 01:27 PM
Huge
 
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On 2008-05-29, AGT <usenetpersongerryt@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 22:15:38 -0700, erik magnuson wrote:
>
>> AGT wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 23:29:09 -0700, erik magnuson wrote:
>>>>Dave wrote:
>>>>>Charles Lindsey who has far too much time on his hands wrote:
>>>>>>Having attempted to relocate a Flopy Drive from a SPARC-5 to an Ultra-2,
>>>>>>and encountered all sorts of misfeatures, bugs and incompatibilities, I
>>>>>>have written it all up on my website at
>>>>>> http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/floppy-muddle.html
>>>>>>Hopefully, this will provide a general guide to how SPARCs and Solaris
>>>>>>(mis)handles floppies.
>>>>>>Comments will be welcomed.
>>>>>I suspect few people now are going to be using floppies in Suns.

>
> Ditto - although I have a couple still on OLD SPARCs


The only floppies I have are 8" ones....


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Old 06-02-2008, 01:27 PM
Charles Lindsey
 
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In <g1ohe4$g3s$1@anubis.demon.co.uk> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:

>On 2008-05-29, AGT <usenetpersongerryt@gmail.com> wrote:


>>>>>>I suspect few people now are going to be using floppies in Suns.

>>
>> Ditto - although I have a couple still on OLD SPARCs


>The only floppies I have are 8" ones....


AFAICT, the Intel Chip and the Solaris driver are still quite capable of
handling shuch floppies, if you can find a suitable drive for them.

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Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K.
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Old 06-04-2008, 04:23 PM
Dave
 
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Charles Lindsey wrote:
> In <g1ohe4$g3s$1@anubis.demon.co.uk> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2008-05-29, AGT <usenetpersongerryt@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>>>>>>> I suspect few people now are going to be using floppies in Suns.
>>> Ditto - although I have a couple still on OLD SPARCs

>
>> The only floppies I have are 8" ones....

>
> AFAICT, the Intel Chip and the Solaris driver are still quite capable of
> handling shuch floppies, if you can find a suitable drive for them.
>



And you can be bothered to fit it!

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