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No doubt this has been posted in the past, and I apologize for this.
Can someone point me in the right direction to figure out how to
configure my Elite 3D so that I can have more colors on the desktop for
my apps?

When I go to Sun's site, and search, the results are overwhelming. I
had followed another poster's thread that mentioned chaning
/etc/appconfig/Xservers (I think) but it didn't work in my case.

Any info, greatly appreciated...

Richard

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Richard Santink <rsantink@florida.us> writes:

> No doubt this has been posted in the past, and I apologize for
> this. Can someone point me in the right direction to figure out how to
> configure my Elite 3D so that I can have more colors on the desktop
> for my apps?
>
> When I go to Sun's site, and search, the results are overwhelming. I
> had followed another poster's thread that mentioned chaning
> /etc/appconfig/Xservers (I think) but it didn't work in my case.

Use ifbconfig (device specific) or fbconfig (generic) to configure the
resolution and color depth of the card. Use Xservers to establish the
default depth and visual type, and such things as left and right
screens, or Xinerama. You have to copy Xservers from its default
location to another specified place if you wish to change it and have
your changes take effect. Sorry I forget where, but find the file and
read its comments.

The default visual on Creator and Elite cards seems to be an 8-bit
PseudoColor visual for maximum safety, since this is often what older
applications use and expect. If you change it to be 24-bit TrueColor
you'll see that most apps can now actually use it IF they find it (but
unfortunately many don't look beyond the default).


Chris

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Chris,
Thanks for the info.. it appears that in my case, I will use afbconfig
for the Elite3D. I will however have to research all these different
'overlay's and stuff.. it's very confusing trying to figure out which
one creates the effect I am seeking.

Here's some output from my system. Does anything here standout to you
as the part that I need to change?


Thanks,

Rich


> # afbconfig
>
> Usage:
>
> afbconfig [-dev devname] [-file machine | system ]
> [-res video-mode [now] [noconfirm] [nocheck] [try]]
> [-deflinear true | false] [-defoverlay true | false]
> [-linearorder first | last] [-overlayorder first | last]
> [-expvis enable | disable] [-sov enable | disable]
> [-maxwids n] [-extovl enable | disable]
> [-g gamma-correction value] [-gfile filename]
> [-slave on | off]
> [-defaults]
> [-propt] [-prconf] [-help]
>
> # afbconfig -propt
>
> --- OpenWindows Configuration for /dev/fbs/afb0 ---
> OWconfig: machine
> Video Mode: NONE
> Default Visual: Non-Linear Normal Visual
> Visual Ordering: Linear Visuals are last
> Overlay Visuals are last
> OpenGL Visual Expansion: enabled
> Server Overlay Visuals: enabled
> Extended Overlay: enabled
> Underlay WIDs: 64 (not configurable)
> Overlay WIDs: 4 (not configurable)
> Gamma Correction Value: 2.220000
> Gamma Correction Table: Available
>
> # afbconfig -prconf
>
> --- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/afb0 ---
> Type: double-buffered AFB Lite with Z-buffer
> Board: double memory rev 0 (Vertical)
> Number of Floats: 3
> PROM Information: @(#)afb.fth 1.17 98/03/06
> AFB ID: 0x101df06d
> DAC: Brooktree 9070, version 1 (Pac2)
> 3DRAM: Mitsubishi 130a, version 1
> Framelock Configuration: Master
> EDID Data: Available - EDID version 1 revision 1
> Monitor Sense ID: 4 (Sun 39x29cm RGB color monitor)
> Monitor possible resolutions: 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75,
> 1024x768x77, 1024x800x84, 1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x800x76,
> 1280x1024x60, 1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 1280x1024x85,
> 960x680x112s, 960x680x108s, 640x480x60
> Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x76

System is an Ultra300 @300MHz with Elite3D. Running Solaris9




Chris Morgan wrote:
> Richard Santink <rsantink@florida.us> writes:
>
>
>>No doubt this has been posted in the past, and I apologize for
>>this. Can someone point me in the right direction to figure out how to
>>configure my Elite 3D so that I can have more colors on the desktop
>>for my apps?
>>
>>When I go to Sun's site, and search, the results are overwhelming. I
>>had followed another poster's thread that mentioned chaning
>>/etc/appconfig/Xservers (I think) but it didn't work in my case.
>
>
> Use ifbconfig (device specific) or fbconfig (generic) to configure the
> resolution and color depth of the card. Use Xservers to establish the
> default depth and visual type, and such things as left and right
> screens, or Xinerama. You have to copy Xservers from its default
> location to another specified place if you wish to change it and have
> your changes take effect. Sorry I forget where, but find the file and
> read its comments.
>
> The default visual on Creator and Elite cards seems to be an 8-bit
> PseudoColor visual for maximum safety, since this is often what older
> applications use and expect. If you change it to be 24-bit TrueColor
> you'll see that most apps can now actually use it IF they find it (but
> unfortunately many don't look beyond the default).
>
>
> Chris
>



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Richard Santink wrote:
> No doubt this has been posted in the past, and I apologize for this. Can
> someone point me in the right direction to figure out how to configure
> my Elite 3D so that I can have more colors on the desktop for my apps?
>
> When I go to Sun's site, and search, the results are overwhelming. I
> had followed another poster's thread that mentioned chaning
> /etc/appconfig/Xservers (I think) but it didn't work in my case.
>
> Any info, greatly appreciated...
>
> Richard
>
> rsantink@@@@@@florida....com
>
>
Following is the relevant line from my /etc/dt/config/Xservers file:
:0 Local local_uid@console root /usr/openwin/bin/Xsun :0 \
-clients 1024 -dev /dev/fb defdepth 24

The above will give you a 24 bit root window.

Also checkout the following link:
http://www.sun.com/technical-computing/ISV/PTCFaq.html

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Richard Santink wrote:
> No doubt this has been posted in the past, and I apologize for this. Can
> someone point me in the right direction to figure out how to configure
> my Elite 3D so that I can have more colors on the desktop for my apps?
>
> When I go to Sun's site, and search, the results are overwhelming. I
> had followed another poster's thread that mentioned chaning
> /etc/appconfig/Xservers (I think) but it didn't work in my case.
>
> Any info, greatly appreciated...

http://www.sun.com/technical-computing/ISV/PTCFaq.html

The above link describes all you require. Follow the directions from
items 2 and 3.

Note: Even though the link is PTC Pro-Engineering specific, it contains
many good points for speed in 3D environments, and definitely color depth.

Paul

> Following is the relevant line from my /etc/dt/config/Xservers file:
> :0 Local local_uid@console root /usr/openwin/bin/Xsun :0 \
> -clients 1024 -dev /dev/fb defdepth 24
>
> The above will give you a 24 bit root window.
>
> Also checkout the following link:
> http://www.sun.com/technical-computing/ISV/PTCFaq.html

Worked like a charm... thanks very much!!!

RAS

>



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Paul Gress wrote:
> Richard Santink wrote:
>
>> No doubt this has been posted in the past, and I apologize for this.
>> Can someone point me in the right direction to figure out how to
>> configure my Elite 3D so that I can have more colors on the desktop
>> for my apps?
>>
>> When I go to Sun's site, and search, the results are overwhelming. I
>> had followed another poster's thread that mentioned chaning
>> /etc/appconfig/Xservers (I think) but it didn't work in my case.
>>
>> Any info, greatly appreciated...
>
>
> http://www.sun.com/technical-computing/ISV/PTCFaq.html
>
> The above link describes all you require. Follow the directions from
> items 2 and 3.
>
> Note: Even though the link is PTC Pro-Engineering specific, it contains
> many good points for speed in 3D environments, and definitely color depth.
>
> Paul

Worked perfectly... thanks!


RAS




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Richard Santink <rsantink@florida.us> writes:

> Chris,
> Thanks for the info.. it appears that in my case, I will use afbconfig
> for the Elite3D. I will however have to research all these different
> 'overlay's and stuff.. it's very confusing trying to figure out which
> one creates the effect I am seeking.

I see other posters gave you even better, very specific
recommendations and you're all sorted... exellent.

I do think the high-end Sun cards are a bit unusual and a bit of
surprise to some X-Window developers when they come across them for
the first time. to be fair, it was pure luck that I even learnt about
these issues myself. I was lucky enough to get an ultra 10 with a
Creator card, whereas all subsequent purchases for the same project
were strictly ultra 5s with just the built-in fairly weak pgx24
graphics.

I have colleagues who have never even seen an "interesting" visual
list since although they work on a Solaris GUI application, they only
ever use simple devices like pgx, or even they simply work against
Exceed on their PC instead. I had to insist they do some testing on
Creator cards, like some clients were using, else we would have been
at risk of getting the wrong gamma correction, or using 8-bit color
when 24-bit is also available (a real sin in my book!).

Cheers

Chris

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"Post posting of policy changes by the boss will result in
real rule revisions that are irreversible"

- anonymous correspondent