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#1 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:31 PM

Hi,

Anyone now and can tell when the new Ultrasparc IIIi+ in WS will be
introduced and the spec of them?

/michael

#2 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:31 PM

They still haven't even published the system handbook for the Ultra45.
And now you are asking for future products ?

ROTFL, we are still talking about Sun.

http://www.heise.de/bilder/72072/0/1
tells mid 2006 but this is not a Jonathan Schwarz roadmap. Maybe he
changed priorities.

#3 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:31 PM

Hi,

llothar wrote:
> They still haven't even published the system handbook for the Ultra45.
> And now you are asking for future products ?

Usually the launch stuff in this quarter.

>
> ROTFL, we are still talking about Sun.
>
What means ROTFL?

/michael

#4 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:31 PM

With the release of the ultra 45 I think its going to be a while.

The ultrasparcIIIi+ seem to be about as the v445 and v2[1|4]5 patches
are about, so they could turn up in the summer.

The workstation is a bit more worrying, like theres no gfx to put in it
since 3dlabs have pulled out.

With a miracle the boys at sun may get a clue and go to nvidia, which
would probably shelf the workstation 6-8months, and get some
competative stick in that deptartment.

#5 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:31 PM

Hi,

kangcool wrote:
> With the release of the ultra 45 I think its going to be a while.
>
> The ultrasparcIIIi+ seem to be about as the v445 and v2[1|4]5 patches
> are about, so they could turn up in the summer.
>
> The workstation is a bit more worrying, like theres no gfx to put in it
> since 3dlabs have pulled out.
>
> With a miracle the boys at sun may get a clue and go to nvidia, which
> would probably shelf the workstation 6-8months, and get some
> competative stick in that deptartment.
>
Have really 3dlabs stopped production of current boards, or just stopped
development of new ones?

/michael

#6 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:31 PM

They stopped all cards appart from the xvr-2500. Which is a bit of a
git for anyone no using the ultra 45.

bit worried about the drivers for the xvr-2500 as there coming in a lot
quicker than the xvr-600/1200 series, and now the manufacture has
pulled out, never good.

I think they will be winding down there PC cards as well.

Creative (Parent company) was not happy with 3dlabs profits so it is
taking them to embeded systems.

So were only left with two 3d WS cards manufactures, oh joy.....

#7 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 03:31 PM

Michael Laajanen wrote:
> Have really 3dlabs stopped production of current boards, or just stopped
> development of new ones?

I had asked about that earlier - Alan Coopersmith specifically said that
while development of new cards was stopped, production of current cards
(i.e. the xvr-2500) was still underway. Depending how attentive Sun was
when they negotiated the purchase of the xvr-2500, there may be a clause
that states 3dlabs/Creative *has* to keep producing the cards or face a
penalty (mind you, this is sheer speculation on my part).

I did get the impression that Sun is actively looking into alternatives
for the Sparc WS lines. *cough* Shouldn't *cough* be that difficult to
port the x86 drivers to Sparc - though there is the issue of open boot
code needed for the Sparc boards.

The news about the V215/245/445 is encouraging and remember that the
V210/240 came out well before the SB1500/2500.

- Erik

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