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#1 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

Installed Solaris 9 on my Blade 1500 to which is attached a standard
UK USB PC keyboard and mouse.

Trouble is its not working properly. For starters (and most
importantly!) I cant get the pipe character - instead I get ^@ when I
hit the pipe key.

Any ideas?

Yes. I installed Solaris with UK support.

#2 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

In article <801416cf-432d-4328-8de2-33607339c19d@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
"BertieBigBollox@gmail.com" <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> writes:
> Installed Solaris 9 on my Blade 1500 to which is attached a standard
> UK USB PC keyboard and mouse.
>
> Trouble is its not working properly. For starters (and most
> importantly!) I cant get the pipe character - instead I get ^@ when I
> hit the pipe key.
>
> Any ideas?

Try the ~ key ;-)

> Yes. I installed Solaris with UK support.

Was the keyboard plugged in when system was powered up? If not, try
doing that.

Don't have a Blade 1500 to try this out on and I'm not sure how this
is supposed to work (I thought USB keyboards were self-identifying),
but you might try: eeprom keyboard-layout=UK-English
and reboot.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

#3 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

On Mar 4, 10:54*am, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
> In article <801416cf-432d-4328-8de2-33607339c...@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> * * * * "BertieBigBol...@gmail.com" <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Installed Solaris 9 on my Blade 1500 to which is attached a standard
> > UK USB PC keyboard and mouse.
>
> > Trouble is its not working properly. For starters (and most
> > importantly!) I cant get the pipe character - instead I get ^@ when I
> > hit the pipe key.
>
> > Any ideas?
>
> Try the ~ key ;-)

Same.

> Was the keyboard plugged in when system was powered up? If not, try
> doing that.

Yes. Was connected.

>
> Don't have a Blade 1500 to try this out on and I'm not sure how this
> is supposed to work (I thought USB keyboards were self-identifying),
> but you might try: eeprom keyboard-layout=UK-English
> and reboot.

I assume you mean that this command is from the OK prompt? No joy...

#4 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes:

>In article <801416cf-432d-4328-8de2-33607339c19d@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> "BertieBigBollox@gmail.com" <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> writes:
>> Installed Solaris 9 on my Blade 1500 to which is attached a standard
>> UK USB PC keyboard and mouse.
>>
>> Trouble is its not working properly. For starters (and most
>> importantly!) I cant get the pipe character - instead I get ^@ when I
>> hit the pipe key.
>>
>> Any ideas?

>Try the ~ key ;-)

>> Yes. I installed Solaris with UK support.

>Was the keyboard plugged in when system was powered up? If not, try
>doing that.

>Don't have a Blade 1500 to try this out on and I'm not sure how this
>is supposed to work (I thought USB keyboards were self-identifying),
>but you might try: eeprom keyboard-layout=UK-English
>and reboot.

Many USB keyboards are not self-identifying; Sun keyboards are.

I'm not exactly sure why keyboards need any identiifcation; why can't they
just send what's on the key caps?

Casper
--
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to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
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#5 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

In article <3cf86244-b758-4b1a-88ee-6afccd002b5a@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
"BertieBigBollox@gmail.com" <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mar 4, 10:54*am, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel)
> wrote:
>> In article <801416cf-432d-4328-8de2-33607339c...@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>> * * * * "BertieBigBol...@gmail.com" <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Installed Solaris 9 on my Blade 1500 to which is attached a standard
>> > UK USB PC keyboard and mouse.
>>
>> > Trouble is its not working properly. For starters (and most
>> > importantly!) I cant get the pipe character - instead I get ^@ when I
>> > hit the pipe key.
>>
>> > Any ideas?
>>
>> Try the ~ key ;-)
> Same.

Might not be just a misidentified keyboard problem.
(I should have said ~ character, i.e. shift-~)

>> Was the keyboard plugged in when system was powered up? If not, try
>> doing that.
> Yes. Was connected.
>>
>> Don't have a Blade 1500 to try this out on and I'm not sure how this
>> is supposed to work (I thought USB keyboards were self-identifying),
>> but you might try: eeprom keyboard-layout=UK-English
>> and reboot.
> I assume you mean that this command is from the OK prompt? No joy...

No, it's from the Solaris command line.
You can achieve the same from the OK prompt too,
but I'm not sure what the syntax is for that.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

#6 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

On Mar 4, 12:09*pm, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
> In article <3cf86244-b758-4b1a-88ee-6afccd002...@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> * * * * "BertieBigBol...@gmail.com" <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 10:54*am, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel)
> > wrote:
> >> In article <801416cf-432d-4328-8de2-33607339c...@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> * * * * "BertieBigBol...@gmail.com" <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com>writes:
>
> >> > Installed Solaris 9 on my Blade 1500 to which is attached a standard
> >> > UK USB PC keyboard and mouse.
>
> >> > Trouble is its not working properly. For starters (and most
> >> > importantly!) I cant get the pipe character - instead I get ^@ when I
> >> > hit the pipe key.
>
> >> > Any ideas?
>
> >> Try the ~ key ;-)
> > Same.
>
> Might not be just a misidentified keyboard problem.
> (I should have said ~ character, i.e. shift-~)
>
> >> Was the keyboard plugged in when system was powered up? If not, try
> >> doing that.
> > Yes. Was connected.
>
> >> Don't have a Blade 1500 to try this out on and I'm not sure how this
> >> is supposed to work (I thought USB keyboards were self-identifying),
> >> but you might try: eeprom keyboard-layout=UK-English
> >> and reboot.
> > I assume you mean that this command is from the OK prompt? No joy...
>
> No, it's from the Solaris command line.
> You can achieve the same from the OK prompt too,
> but I'm not sure what the syntax is for that.

Nope. Doesnt work :-(.

Man pages for eeprom dont mention keyboard-layout as one of the
parameters. Only thing similar is keymap.

BTW - Shift-~ gives the same.

#7 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

BertieBigBollox@gmail.com schrieb:
>
> Nope. Doesnt work :-(.
>
> Man pages for eeprom dont mention keyboard-layout as one of the
> parameters. Only thing similar is keymap.
>
> BTW - Shift-~ gives the same.

have you already read kbd(1) and tried the layout setting described in
this man page?

#8 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

"BertieBigBollox@gmail.com" <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> writes:

>Man pages for eeprom dont mention keyboard-layout as one of the
>parameters. Only thing similar is keymap.

I think that's only an x86 parameter.

Casper
--
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to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

#9 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@Sun.COM> writes in comp.unix.solaris:
|I'm not exactly sure why keyboards need any identiifcation; why can't they
|just send what's on the key caps?

Because that's not the way the USB HID standard was written 10 years
ago - it sends "shift" then "2" and you have to know the layout to
figure out what character is in that position on your keyboard.

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#10 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 01:59 PM

Alan Coopersmith <alanc@alum.calberkeley.org> writes:

>Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@Sun.COM> writes in comp.unix.solaris:
>|I'm not exactly sure why keyboards need any identiifcation; why can't they
>|just send what's on the key caps?

>Because that's not the way the USB HID standard was written 10 years
>ago - it sends "shift" then "2" and you have to know the layout to
>figure out what character is in that position on your keyboard.

Surely there's a way to do that correctly? (I understand that lots
of applicaitons want to see all the modifers as separate events but
it should be possible to properly communicate the shifted values)

Casper
--
Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

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