Hallo!

I got a SparcStation IPX before christmas, but it has a problem:
(diag-switch? = true)

----SNIP----
Power-Up State Test
Context Register Bit Test
Context Register Addressing Test
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000000
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000001
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000002
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000003
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000004
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000005
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000006
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000007
Page Map RAM MATS Pattern Test
Limit 0 Register Test
Counter Interrupt Level 10 Test
ERROR: Unexpected Trap (tt = 00000011)
PSR = 900000c6 TBR = ffe81110 WIM = 00000000 PC = ffe8784c
SER = 00000000 SEVAR = 00000000 AER = 00000000 AEVAR =
00000000Setting Segment Map
Setting RAM Parity Mode
Mode set to 33-bit
Sizing Memory
Mapping ROM
Mapping RAM
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 0,0 dma esp sd st le
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 1,0 Nothing there
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 2,0 Nothing there
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 3,0 cgsix
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 0,0 dma esp sd st le
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 1,0 Nothing there
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 2,0 Nothing there
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 3,0 cgsix

SPARCstation IPX, No Keyboard
ROM Rev. 2.9, 64 MB memory installed, Serial #16777215.
Ethernet address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, Host ID: ffffffff.


The IDPROM contents are invalid

Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Unexpected Trap (tt = 11)



Type b (boot), c (continue), or n (new command mode)
>
----SNAP----

I tried the following steps already:

- I took out the RAM and re-inserted it (4 SIMMs a 16 MB), the seller
told me, they worked in another computer
- I took off all floppy and SCSI cables
- I removed the NVRAM-chip (the seller added an external battery to it)
(the message about the IDPROM appeared after the IPX ran once without
the NVRAM)
- I removed the mainboard and re-inserted it.

But nothing helped so far.
Has anyone an idea what this trap 11 means??
The command ".traps" only told me that it is some kind of interrupt.
But I did not find what device generates this interrupt...

Thanks,
Christian

Christian Naß wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> I got a SparcStation IPX before christmas, but it has a problem:
> (diag-switch? = true)
>
> ----SNIP----
> Power-Up State Test
> Context Register Bit Test
> Context Register Addressing Test
> Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000000
> Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000001
> Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000002
> Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000003
> Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000004
> Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000005
> Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000006
> Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000007
> Page Map RAM MATS Pattern Test
> Limit 0 Register Test
> Counter Interrupt Level 10 Test
> ERROR: Unexpected Trap (tt = 00000011)
> PSR = 900000c6 TBR = ffe81110 WIM = 00000000 PC = ffe8784c
> SER = 00000000 SEVAR = 00000000 AER = 00000000 AEVAR =
> 00000000Setting Segment Map
> Setting RAM Parity Mode
> Mode set to 33-bit
> Sizing Memory
> Mapping ROM
> Mapping RAM
> Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 0,0 dma esp sd st le
> Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 1,0 Nothing there
> Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 2,0 Nothing there
> Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 3,0 cgsix
> Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 0,0 dma esp sd st le
> Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 1,0 Nothing there
> Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 2,0 Nothing there
> Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 3,0 cgsix
>
> SPARCstation IPX, No Keyboard
> ROM Rev. 2.9, 64 MB memory installed, Serial #16777215.
> Ethernet address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, Host ID: ffffffff.
>
>
> The IDPROM contents are invalid
>
> Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Unexpected Trap (tt = 11)
>
>
>
> Type b (boot), c (continue), or n (new command mode)
>
> ----SNAP----
>
> I tried the following steps already:
>
> - I took out the RAM and re-inserted it (4 SIMMs a 16 MB), the seller
> told me, they worked in another computer
> - I took off all floppy and SCSI cables
> - I removed the NVRAM-chip (the seller added an external battery to it)
> (the message about the IDPROM appeared after the IPX ran once without
> the NVRAM)
> - I removed the mainboard and re-inserted it.
>
> But nothing helped so far.
> Has anyone an idea what this trap 11 means??
> The command ".traps" only told me that it is some kind of interrupt.
> But I did not find what device generates this interrupt...
>
> Thanks,
> Christian

have a look at http://www.squirrel.com/sun-nvram-hostid.faq.html
the host id: ffffffff is no god !
/Jörgen

Jorgen Moquist wrote:

Hi!

>>SPARCstation IPX, No Keyboard
>>ROM Rev. 2.9, 64 MB memory installed, Serial #16777215.
>>Ethernet address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, Host ID: ffffffff.
>>
>>
>>The IDPROM contents are invalid
>>
>>Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Unexpected Trap (tt = 11)

> have a look at http://www.squirrel.com/sun-nvram-hostid.faq.html
> the host id: ffffffff is no god !

Hmm... Okay, perhaps I need to reprogram the NVRAM.

Before I took out the NVRAM, it looked like this when starting:

----SNIP----
Power-Up State Test
Context Register Bit Test
Context Register Addressing Test
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000000
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000001
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000002
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000003
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000004
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000005
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000006
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 00000007
Page Map RAM MATS Pattern Test
Limit 0 Register Test
Counter Interrupt Level 10 Test
ERROR: Unexpected Trap (tt = 00000011)
PSR = 900000c6 TBR = ffe81110 WIM = 00000000 PC = ffe8784c
SER = 00000000 SEVAR = 00000000 AER = 00000000 AEVAR =
00000000Setting Sp
Setting RAM Parity Mode
Mode set to 33-bit
Sizing Memory
Mapping ROM
Mapping RAM
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 0,0 dma esp sd st le
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 1,0 tr
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 2,0 Nothing there
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 3,0 cgsix
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 0,0 dma esp sd st le
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 1,0 tr
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 2,0 Nothing there
Probing /sbus@1,f8000000 at 3,0 cgsix

SPARCstation IPX, No Keyboard
ROM Rev. 2.9, 64 MB memory installed, Serial #782936.
Ethernet address 8:0:20:b:f2:58, Host ID: 570bf258.



Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Unexpected Trap (tt = 11)



Type help for more information
ok
----SNAP----


Ciao,
Christian

Christian Naß wrote:
> Jorgen Moquist wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>>>SPARCstation IPX, No Keyboard
>>>ROM Rev. 2.9, 64 MB memory installed, Serial #16777215.
>>>Ethernet address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, Host ID: ffffffff.
>>>
>>>
>>>The IDPROM contents are invalid
>>>
>>>Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Unexpected Trap (tt = 11)
>
>
>>have a look at http://www.squirrel.com/sun-nvram-hostid.faq.html
>>the host id: ffffffff is no god !
>
>
> Hmm... Okay, perhaps I need to reprogram the NVRAM.
>
> Before I took out the NVRAM, it looked like this when starting:
>
> ----SNIP----

>
> SPARCstation IPX, No Keyboard
> ROM Rev. 2.9, 64 MB memory installed, Serial #782936.
> Ethernet address 8:0:20:b:f2:58, Host ID: 570bf258.
>
>
then the NVRAM is ok.
>
> Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Unexpected Trap (tt = 11)
>
>
i dont know what, Unexpected Trap (tt = 11) is
>
> Type help for more information
> ok
> ----SNAP----
>
>
> Ciao,
> Christian

/Jörgen

Christian Naß wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> I got a SparcStation IPX before christmas, but it has a problem:
> (diag-switch? = true)
One might question if its worth you hassle messing with this. Even if
you get it working (it seems like your NVRAM has died), you are very
unlikly to have a machine you are happy with. SPARCstation 20's are dirt
cheap on eBay, and will knock the spots off the IPX. Ultra 1's are
probably a better buy, as they will run Solaris 10, but cost a little more.

Personally, I don't think it is worth the hassle of trying to get an IPX
working. Others will disagree of course.

In article <41f37dbd@212.67.96.135>, Dave <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:

> Christian Naß wrote:
> > Hallo!
> >
> > I got a SparcStation IPX before christmas, but it has a problem:
> > (diag-switch? = true)
> One might question if its worth you hassle messing with this. Even if
> you get it working (it seems like your NVRAM has died), you are very
> unlikly to have a machine you are happy with. SPARCstation 20's are dirt
> cheap on eBay, and will knock the spots off the IPX. Ultra 1's are
> probably a better buy, as they will run Solaris 10, but cost a little more.

I've heard that Solaris 10 is not supported on the Ultra 1 processor.
Has this changed?

Josh

Josh McKee wrote:
> In article <41f37dbd@212.67.96.135>, Dave <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Christian Naß wrote:
>>
>>>Hallo!
>>>
>>>I got a SparcStation IPX before christmas, but it has a problem:
>>>(diag-switch? = true)
>>
>>One might question if its worth you hassle messing with this. Even if
>>you get it working (it seems like your NVRAM has died), you are very
>>unlikly to have a machine you are happy with. SPARCstation 20's are dirt
>>cheap on eBay, and will knock the spots off the IPX. Ultra 1's are
>>probably a better buy, as they will run Solaris 10, but cost a little more.
>
>
> I've heard that Solaris 10 is not supported on the Ultra 1 processor.
> Has this changed?
>
> Josh
Don't know. I thought it worked on Ultra class machiens, but may be not
the very oldest of them.

I looked on eBay and see Ultra 1 170's going for £30 (around $55) in the
UK. I suspect they would be less in the US. It still brings into
question whether its worth messing about with an IPX.

Someone must know the status on Solaris 10. Not sure if I'll bother
upgrading my U80 - not for a year or so anyway.

In article <41f3dbeb@212.67.96.135>, Dave <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:

> Josh McKee wrote:
> > In article <41f37dbd@212.67.96.135>, Dave <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Christian Naß wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hallo!
> >>>
> >>>I got a SparcStation IPX before christmas, but it has a problem:
> >>>(diag-switch? = true)
> >>
> >>One might question if its worth you hassle messing with this. Even if
> >>you get it working (it seems like your NVRAM has died), you are very
> >>unlikly to have a machine you are happy with. SPARCstation 20's are dirt
> >>cheap on eBay, and will knock the spots off the IPX. Ultra 1's are
> >>probably a better buy, as they will run Solaris 10, but cost a little more.
> >
> >
> > I've heard that Solaris 10 is not supported on the Ultra 1 processor.
> > Has this changed?
> >
> > Josh
> Don't know. I thought it worked on Ultra class machiens, but may be not
> the very oldest of them.

I believe that it isn't supported with the Ultra 1 processor. If that's
the case an Ultra 2 with Ultra I processors will not be support with
Solaris 10.

> I looked on eBay and see Ultra 1 170's going for £30 (around $55) in the
> UK. I suspect they would be less in the US. It still brings into
> question whether its worth messing about with an IPX.

It depends on what you mean by "messing about". It can be a useable
system depending on the task and configuration of the system. However
it's not worth putting money into. If it can't be used as it currently
is then you'd be better off buying a different system.

Josh

Dave wrote:

Hi!

> One might question if its worth you hassle messing with this. Even if
> you get it working (it seems like your NVRAM has died),

The NVRAM worked before I took it out...

My problem remains:
What does this "trap 11" mean??
Noone could tell me this...

> you are very unlikly to have a machine you are happy with.

Sorry, but I don't think that you can know what I will be happy with.
Besides the SS10 (see below), I have also a Apple Macintosh SE/30, which
I am very happy with, it does its jobs very well.
I like old computers...

> SPARCstation 20's are dirt
> cheap on eBay, and will knock the spots off the IPX. Ultra 1's are
> probably a better buy, as they will run Solaris 10, but cost a little more.

I already have a SPARCstation 10 with 2xSM51 inside, but I like to have
this small box up and running again.

> Personally, I don't think it is worth the hassle of trying to get an IPX
> working. Others will disagree of course.

Me, for example.

Bye,
Christian

"Christian Naß" <usenet@noseman.de> wrote in message
news:4jfdc2-unt.ln1@farpoint.sp10.wg...
> Dave wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> > One might question if its worth you hassle messing with this. Even if
> > you get it working (it seems like your NVRAM has died),
>
<snip>

Those small formfactor cases can be useful for when not a lot of power is
needed and space is at a premium. I've got an IPC serving as the TFTP/RARP
server for netbooting a bunch of bigger boxes that are lacking in the disk
dept. Small machine, does everything I need.

Bob