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Greetings:

I have picked up an Ultra 10 and a SunPCI (version 1) card. It all
works well but I cannot get the SunPCI display to work accross my network.


Has anyone done this?

Is it restricted to the local host somehow?

Is it checking for some quality of display?

Should it work to an X terminal such as an NCD?

HaroldT

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Harold Tomlinson wrote:

> I have picked up an Ultra 10 and a SunPCI (version 1) card. It all
> works well but I cannot get the SunPCI display to work accross my network.

Well, my set up is a bit different from yours (I have a PCi II pro
in a Sun Blade 100), but I can confirm that it does display across
the network. I regularly run sunpci like this, as my SB 100 is 15
feet away, in a storage room.

Do other X apps display remotely?

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In article <pan.2003.07.21.18.38.24.379905@paralandra.crea.co m>,
Harold Tomlinson <haroldt.creacom@rogers.com> wrote:
>Greetings:
>
> I have picked up an Ultra 10 and a SunPCI (version 1) card. It all
>works well but I cannot get the SunPCI display to work accross my network.

A suggestion regarding the placement of the SunPCi card. Consider placing it
in the PCI slots such that its as far away from the mainboard of the Sun Ultra
as possible. I have noticed that my machine would crash every so often, but
it was intermittent, so I could not figure it out. Then on a hunch, I
put it in the farthest one, and the machine has been rock-solid ever
since... knock on wood.

I don't know if it was heat or stray RF energy from the card that was
causing it, but I am glad either way. Maybe someone on the net has the
answer as to whether it was stray RF or heat that was causing the cache
errors.

> Has anyone done this?

I have done it once in a very rare while. You really don't want to run
it remotely, if you can avoid it. I had some testing I needed to do.
I use my SunPCi mostly for testing builds of Mozilla.

> Is it restricted to the local host somehow?

You know the "setenv DISPLAY:machine:0.0" command right?
Use this on the machine with the SunPCi card, and on the other machine,
assuming its unix/linux, use: "xhost +" and it should go, if I recall
correctly.

> Is it checking for some quality of display?

It won't run remotely without the remote client giving permission for that
machine to put a display on it. Those two commands should do it for unix to
unix operability.

> Should it work to an X terminal such as an NCD?

It should, but it won't be extraordinarily responsive.

As they say, your mileage may vary.

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:24:00 +0000, Sanjay Singh wrote:
<snip>
> I have done it once in a very rare while. You really don't want to run it
> remotely, if you can avoid it. I had some testing I needed to do. I use my
> SunPCi mostly for testing builds of Mozilla.
<snip>


Okay, it should work then, but what does it mean "no suitable visual"?
This is what it says when I try to put it up on my NCD. On my Linux box
(running 1024x768 @ 24 bit), I just get "X Window System Error: 86
Sequence=12, Value=0x3400059". This error occurs with or without the
addition of the solaris font server into the font path with "xset +fp
tcp/<hostname>:7100".

HaroldT

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:23:11 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:
<snip>

> Well, my set up is a bit different from yours (I have a PCi II pro in a
> Sun Blade 100), but I can confirm that it does display across the network.
> I regularly run sunpci like this, as my SB 100 is 15 feet away, in a
> storage room.
>
> Do other X apps display remotely?

So far everyone seems to have a II or III that works. Perhaps the I
never did work properly remotely. Anyway, yes, other apps work perfectly
fine to my Linux box.

The Linux machine is running 1024x768 @ 24 bits which should be enough
for the sunpci.

I have added the solaris box to the font path...

Still, the window appears only for a few seconds and dies.

HaroldT

Harold Tomlinson <haroldt@paralandra.crea.com> wrote:
> So far everyone seems to have a II or III that works. Perhaps the I
> never did work properly remotely. Anyway, yes, other apps work perfectly
> fine to my Linux box.

> The Linux machine is running 1024x768 @ 24 bits which should be enough
> for the sunpci.

I actually have the same problem: U10 with SunPCi I and Linux client
(1280x1024@24). sunpci actually dumps core if I try to run it remotely, but
not before giving a few errors about not being able to convert "dt-...."
fonts (understandably, as they're not installed on the Linux box). Surely,
the fonts shouldn't cause the core dump?


> I have added the solaris box to the font path...

Could you give some more details on that?


> Still, the window appears only for a few seconds and dies.

I never even get that far... :-/ Other X apps display ok, though.

Cheerio,

Thomas

In article <pan.2003.07.22.03.35.39.662252@paralandra.crea.co m>,
Harold Tomlinson <haroldt@paralandra.crea.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:24:00 +0000, Sanjay Singh wrote:
><snip>
>> I have done it once in a very rare while. You really don't want to run it
>> remotely, if you can avoid it. I had some testing I needed to do. I use my
>> SunPCi mostly for testing builds of Mozilla.
><snip>

> Okay, it should work then, but what does it mean "no suitable visual"?
>This is what it says when I try to put it up on my NCD. On my Linux box

It works remotely between Sun/Solaris machines. It seems SunPCi wants
some kind of Sun-specific X-server extension.

/wfr
Fredrik


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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:38:46 +0000, T. Ribbrock wrote:
<snip>
> I actually have the same problem: U10 with SunPCi I and Linux client
> (1280x1024@24). sunpci actually dumps core if I try to run it remotely,
> but not before giving a few errors about not being able to convert
> "dt-...." fonts (understandably, as they're not installed on the Linux
> box). Surely, the fonts shouldn't cause the core dump?

On the target machine (where you have run the xhost +<sunpcihost>), run
'xset +fp tcp/<sunpcihost>:7100'. See the man page on xset. Note that to
query your X, you can type 'xset q'. You will see the X settings
including the font path. Adding the Sparc font server
(tcp/<sunpcihost>:7100) to the path gets the fonts you need. But that is
not enough.

(FYI, replace the "<sunpcihost>" with your sparc host name. The angle
brackets are just for clarity.)

Well I have gotten a bit farther. Someone mentioned the SUNpci having
worked previously. This gave me the idea to try another X server. I used
the accellerated I128 XFree86 version 3 server. Hey, it worked. Man is
it slow. This may have been a waste of time if it is going to be that
slow.

So now I can try the XFree86 version 4 server again and try to make
changes to it so that it works.

FYI, the error message about clients that changed and broken pipes also
occur for Xterms and anything else from the Sparc but they do work with
XFree86-4. The question that remains is what was XFree86-3 capable or
tollerant of that XFree86-4 is not?

HaroldT

> So far everyone seems to have a II or III that works. Perhaps the I
> never did work properly remotely. Anyway, yes, other apps work perfectly
> fine to my Linux box.

I spent three weeks (including posts to here and Sun's own forums) trying to
get SunPCI-I to play nice with linux and it never worked. SunPCI-II plays
nice with everything I've tried it on.