Hello,
I have an Ultra 5 Workstation.
I have to buy a scsi card (Symbios 22801) supported by Ultra5 but with
Symbios firmware (not the Sun's firmware).
I can flash the Sun firmware on this card using a PC, but I can't find that
firmware :-(
Someone can backup it and send it to me, please ?
Thanks to all

Michael Myers wrote:

> Hello,
> I have an Ultra 5 Workstation.
> I have to buy a scsi card (Symbios 22801) supported by Ultra5 but with
> Symbios firmware (not the Sun's firmware).
> I can flash the Sun firmware on this card using a PC, but I can't find that
> firmware :-(
> Someone can backup it and send it to me, please ?
> Thanks to all
>
>
I don't think the Sun firmware is necessary in order to use the card.

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"CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Michael Myers wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I have an Ultra 5 Workstation.
> > I have to buy a scsi card (Symbios 22801) supported by Ultra5 but with
> > Symbios firmware (not the Sun's firmware).
> > I can flash the Sun firmware on this card using a PC, but I can't find
that
> > firmware :-(
> > Someone can backup it and send it to me, please ?
> > Thanks to all
> >
> >
> I don't think the Sun firmware is necessary in order to use the card.
>

I believed that too.
But, after some research with google and on Sun forums, it appears that it
is really necessary :-(
Can someone help me ?
Thanks in advance

CJT wrote:
> Michael Myers wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I have an Ultra 5 Workstation.
>> I have to buy a scsi card (Symbios 22801) supported by Ultra5 but with
>> Symbios firmware (not the Sun's firmware).
>> I can flash the Sun firmware on this card using a PC, but I can't find
>> that
>> firmware :-(
>> Someone can backup it and send it to me, please ?
>> Thanks to all
>>
>>
> I don't think the Sun firmware is necessary in order to use the card.
>

What is the chip set in this? I don't think the number 22801 is the chip
set.

I have a dual-channel Sun original card, 365-0005 (assembly number
348-0036) which has in big white letters SYM22801 - i.e. the same as
your card.

But the main chip has on it the number '53C876'. As I say, that card is
Sun original. I have just checked several systems of mine (Ultra 60 and
Ultra 80), all of which use either the 53C875 (single channel) or 53C876
(dual channel). The dual channel chips are all on single-ended boards,
the single channel ones are on a mixture single ended and HVD.

Hence I believe the comments on this web page

http://supportforum.sun.com/hardware...93323cfdfa7bf3

are probably incorrect, where it states those chips will not work in an
Ultra 5 unless it is HVD.

Of course, I have not tested in an Ultra 5, but I have plenty of those
chips working in an Ultra 60 and Ultra 80.

I've added my comments on the bottom of that page.

This might well be useful to you, since my card with the 53C876 has
SYM22801 on it and that card has worked for me and it is the same chip
used in both my Ultra 60 and Ultra 80 on their motherboards.

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> I have an Ultra 5 Workstation.
> I have to buy a scsi card (Symbios 22801) supported by Ultra5 but with
> Symbios firmware (not the Sun's firmware).
> I can flash the Sun firmware on this card using a PC, but I can't find
that
> firmware :-(
> Someone can backup it and send it to me, please ?
> Thanks to all

If I comprehend the handbook properly:

http://www.sunshack.org/data/sh/2.1/...aSCSI_PCI.html

then the Sun version of the card (P/N: 375-0005) has no firmware, i.e. w/o
FCode. Another part number w/ FCode is listed, but Sun never released that
product.

I'd expect the generic card would likely work fine.

HI,

Trinean wrote:
>>I have an Ultra 5 Workstation.
>>I have to buy a scsi card (Symbios 22801) supported by Ultra5 but with
>>Symbios firmware (not the Sun's firmware).
>>I can flash the Sun firmware on this card using a PC, but I can't find
>
> that
>
>>firmware :-(
>>Someone can backup it and send it to me, please ?
>>Thanks to all
>
>
> If I comprehend the handbook properly:
>
> http://www.sunshack.org/data/sh/2.1/...aSCSI_PCI.html
>
> then the Sun version of the card (P/N: 375-0005) has no firmware, i.e. w/o
> FCode. Another part number w/ FCode is listed, but Sun never released that
> product.
>
> I'd expect the generic card would likely work fine.
>
>
Unless Sun does like Compaq do/did, they changed the PCI vendor ID from
the original manufactorer(LSI in this case) to Compaq then their driver
did not load unless it was Compaqs PCI ID!

/michael

Michael Laajanen wrote:

> Unless Sun does like Compaq do/did, they changed the PCI vendor ID from
> the original manufactorer(LSI in this case) to Compaq then their driver
> did not load unless it was Compaqs PCI ID!
>
> /michael

I doubt they did, sice both my single channel cards are badged IBM -one
is SE the other HVD.



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Michael Laajanen wrote:

> HI,
>
> Trinean wrote:
>
>>> I have an Ultra 5 Workstation.
>>> I have to buy a scsi card (Symbios 22801) supported by Ultra5 but with
>>> Symbios firmware (not the Sun's firmware).
>>> I can flash the Sun firmware on this card using a PC, but I can't find
>>
>>
>> that
>>
>>> firmware :-(
>>> Someone can backup it and send it to me, please ?
>>> Thanks to all
>>
>>
>>
>> If I comprehend the handbook properly:
>>
>> http://www.sunshack.org/data/sh/2.1/...aSCSI_PCI.html
>>
>>
>> then the Sun version of the card (P/N: 375-0005) has no firmware, i.e.
>> w/o
>> FCode. Another part number w/ FCode is listed, but Sun never released
>> that
>> product.
>>
>> I'd expect the generic card would likely work fine.
>>
>>
> Unless Sun does like Compaq do/did, they changed the PCI vendor ID from
> the original manufactorer(LSI in this case) to Compaq then their driver
> did not load unless it was Compaqs PCI ID!
>
> /michael

I believe there's a way to advise the OBP to make the equivalence.

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Michael Laajanen wrote:

> Unless Sun does like Compaq do/did, they changed the PCI vendor ID from
> the original manufactorer(LSI in this case) to Compaq then their driver
> did not load unless it was Compaqs PCI ID!
>
> /michael

That should be a very simple thing to fix with a hex editor though...

HI,

UNIX Museum wrote:
> Michael Laajanen wrote:
>
>> Unless Sun does like Compaq do/did, they changed the PCI vendor ID
>> from the original manufactorer(LSI in this case) to Compaq then their
>> driver did not load unless it was Compaqs PCI ID!
>>
>> /michael
>
>
> That should be a very simple thing to fix with a hex editor though...
maybe unless they have tricky checksum somewhere in the driver (:

I reprogrammed the ID PROM that felt safer but I am a HW guy also

/michael