Hello,
I've heard that Sun is stoping the support of Cobalt at the end of 2003...
Is this true ?

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Emma wrote:
> Hello,
> I've heard that Sun is stoping the support of Cobalt at the end of 2003...
> Is this true ?
>

So in three weeks? That seems unlikely. Where did you hear it?

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CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:<3FCD113D.6060407@prodigy.net>...
> Emma wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I've heard that Sun is stoping the support of Cobalt at the end of 2003...
> > Is this true ?
> >
>
> So in three weeks? That seems unlikely. Where did you hear it?


Yeap it's true, cobalt are EOL - End Of Life, With no known replacement.

CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:<3FCD113D.6060407@prodigy.net>...
> Emma wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I've heard that Sun is stoping the support of Cobalt at the end of 2003...
> > Is this true ?
> >
>
> So in three weeks? That seems unlikely. Where did you hear it?


yup it's true, Cobalt are EOL (end Of life)

Gabrihell wrote:
>
> CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:<3FCD113D.6060407@prodigy.net>...
> > Emma wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I've heard that Sun is stoping the support of Cobalt at the end of 2003...
> > > Is this true ?
> > >
> >
> > So in three weeks? That seems unlikely. Where did you hear it?
>
> Yeap it's true, cobalt are EOL - End Of Life, With no known replacement.

Yeah. I don't get that, since Sun had a perfect opportunity to get
itself into the medium- to small businesses, which is where it is
lacking so badly at this time.

Cobalt is and was a beautiful platform. Why buy it & then kill it off?

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Gabrihell wrote:

> Yeap it's true, cobalt are EOL - End Of Life, With no known replacement.

Apart from the V6xx series of x86 servers... (Admitedly, they don't
come with the Cobalt software.)

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In article <3FD0ABA3.25FC8FC5@hotmail.com>,
Ronald van Zantvoort <The_LoekiSPAMBUSTLINE@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Cobalt is and was a beautiful platform. Why buy it & then kill it off?

Obviously the server appliance must not have sold very well.
The only person I know who bought Cobalt Networks systems, always
installed another OS on top of the hardware.

<URL:http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/investor/annual_reports/sun_ar03.pdf>
A summary of Sun's purchase transactions for the three fiscal years
ended June 30,2003,is included in the following table
(in millions,except share amounts):
Cobalt Networks, Inc. 2000-12
$1,775.7 - 30,456,000 shares common stock issued
$283.3 - Fair value of 5,565,000 options assumed
$2.0 - Cash paid for acquisition costs

That's a $2B whoopsie.

John
groenveld@acm.org

On Thursday 18 December 2003 1:54 am in comp.sys.sun.hardware John D
Groenveld wrote:

> In article <3FD0ABA3.25FC8FC5@hotmail.com>,
> Ronald van Zantvoort <The_LoekiSPAMBUSTLINE@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Cobalt is and was a beautiful platform. Why buy it & then kill it off?
>
> Obviously the server appliance must not have sold very well.
> The only person I know who bought Cobalt Networks systems, always
> installed another OS on top of the hardware.
>
> <URL:http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/investor/annual_reports/sun_ar03.pdf>
> A summary of Sun's purchase transactions for the three fiscal years
> ended June 30,2003,is included in the following table
> (in millions,except share amounts):
> Cobalt Networks, Inc. 2000-12
> $1,775.7 - 30,456,000 shares common stock issued
> $283.3 - Fair value of 5,565,000 options assumed
> $2.0 - Cash paid for acquisition costs
>
> That's a $2B whoopsie.

Not really, you are being rather unfair.
The Cobalt product line sold very well, especially into the
ISP colocation market. As the products became outdated they
were replaced by the new range of X86 products. What Sun
actually bought was a company which could acheive this entry
into the low end X86 server market.

The decision to label the new machines as Sun rather than Cobalt
was presumeably a marketing decision.

Sun has a long history of growing the product line by aquisition.
Most people, for example, will have forgotten that the Netra
products were also an aquisition.


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In article <1401760.nIXb97ziA2@callisto>,
Chris Newport <me@see-my-sig.invalid> wrote:
>The Cobalt product line sold very well, especially into the

Where can I see some numbers?

>ISP colocation market. As the products became outdated they
>were replaced by the new range of X86 products. What Sun

I don't see how V60/V65 is a replacement for the Cobalt RaQ line.
General purpose servers vs appliances.

>actually bought was a company which could acheive this entry
>into the low end X86 server market.

For $2B they purchased expertise in buying Intel mainboards and
rack kits and putting Sun logos on them.
They got some appliance software which doesn't seem to be part
of any current products.
They also purchased some plans for a Linux desktop system.
Anything else?

>The decision to label the new machines as Sun rather than Cobalt
>was presumeably a marketing decision.

What new machines? The Cobalt appliances have no upgrade path
according to the EOL documents.

John
groenveld@acm.org

At Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:54:49 +0000 (UTC), groenvel@cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) writes:

> The only person I know who bought Cobalt Networks systems, always
> installed another OS on top of the hardware.

We bought some without reinstalling the OS. They weren't
worldbeaters, but they did the job for us. Also, Yahoo resold them
for a while, if memory serves.

(Personally I thought the Cobalt purchase was a bad idea at the time.)