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Old 01-16-2008, 12:27 PM
James3678
 
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Default Sun V20z opteron server - single point of failure?

Greetings all,

My local sun rep quoted me two of these servers recently, but was concerned
about the non-redundant power supply. Does this strike anyone as a single
point of failure? What risks would there be in using this in an enterprise
datacenter? Could they be mitigated?

We typically plug a dual power supply system into two electric circuits. We
could plug each server into different circuits, but is that mitigating risk
or sticking my head in the sand?

Any ideas or thoughts appreciated.

James


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Old 01-16-2008, 12:27 PM
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"James3678" <James3678@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Greetings all,
>
> My local sun rep quoted me two of these servers recently, but was

concerned
> about the non-redundant power supply. Does this strike anyone as a single
> point of failure? What risks would there be in using this in an

enterprise
> datacenter? Could they be mitigated?
>
> We typically plug a dual power supply system into two electric circuits.

We
> could plug each server into different circuits, but is that mitigating

risk
> or sticking my head in the sand?
>
> Any ideas or thoughts appreciated.
>
> James
>
>


One more thing, this is for a pair of Oracle 9iAS application servers
running RH AS 3, load-balanced by Cisco CSS 11500.



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Old 01-16-2008, 12:28 PM
Rich Teer
 
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On Fri, 14 May 2004, James3678 wrote:

> My local sun rep quoted me two of these servers recently, but was concerned
> about the non-redundant power supply. Does this strike anyone as a single


Yes.

> point of failure? What risks would there be in using this in an enterprise
> datacenter? Could they be mitigated?


The risk is obvious: is the PSU loses its magic smoke, that machine
is dead.

> We typically plug a dual power supply system into two electric circuits. We
> could plug each server into different circuits, but is that mitigating risk
> or sticking my head in the sand?


The latter. Using two circuits guards against one of those circuits
going boom, but it doen't do anything about the PSUs in individual
machines.

> Any ideas or thoughts appreciated.


If being without a SPF is important to you, the V20z is not the
machine for you. I think the V240 is the smallest dual PSU machine
from Sun.

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In article <Pine.SOL.4.58.0405131957570.4191@rite-group.com>,
Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 14 May 2004, James3678 wrote:
>
>> My local sun rep quoted me two of these servers recently, but was concerned
>> about the non-redundant power supply. Does this strike anyone as a single

>
>Yes.
>
>> point of failure? What risks would there be in using this in an enterprise
>> datacenter? Could they be mitigated?

>
>The risk is obvious: is the PSU loses its magic smoke, that machine
>is dead.
>
>> We typically plug a dual power supply system into two electric circuits. We
>> could plug each server into different circuits, but is that mitigating risk
>> or sticking my head in the sand?

>
>The latter. Using two circuits guards against one of those circuits
>going boom, but it doen't do anything about the PSUs in individual
>machines.
>
>> Any ideas or thoughts appreciated.

>
>If being without a SPF is important to you, the V20z is not the
>machine for you. I think the V240 is the smallest dual PSU machine
>from Sun.
>


Actually, the V65x has a redundant power supply option, and is also intel
based so he can run RedHat

-Raf
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On Fri, 14 May 2004, Raf LaPietra wrote:

> Actually, the V65x has a redundant power supply option, and is also intel
> based so he can run RedHat


Why would he want to do that (as opposed to Solaris)?

Agreed, if the v65x meets the OP's other requirements, that might
be the best machine to go for.

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Old 01-16-2008, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Sun V20z opteron server - single point of failure?

In article <Pine.SOL.4.58.0405140926030.4191@rite-group.com>, Rich Teer wrote:
>On Fri, 14 May 2004, Raf LaPietra wrote:
>
>> Actually, the V65x has a redundant power supply option, and is also intel
>> based so he can run RedHat

>
>Why would he want to do that (as opposed to Solaris)?


Because his intention was to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux. He was just
after Sun's hardware.


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Old 01-16-2008, 12:28 PM
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"James3678" <James3678@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:L9Voc.19382$Hs1.6451@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
> Greetings all,
>
> My local sun rep quoted me two of these servers recently, but was

concerned
> about the non-redundant power supply. Does this strike anyone as a single
> point of failure? What risks would there be in using this in an

enterprise
> datacenter? Could they be mitigated?
>
> We typically plug a dual power supply system into two electric circuits.

We
> could plug each server into different circuits, but is that mitigating

risk
> or sticking my head in the sand?
>
> Any ideas or thoughts appreciated.
>
> James
>
>


I appreciate everyone's input. Thanks.

James


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