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Old 01-16-2008, 03:04 PM
davidfowler2000
 
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Default Suns without keyboards

I know from experience that a Sun system will not boot to the OpenPRO
if there is no keyboard attached and you end up needing a seria
connection

My question is this - will a Sun system without keyboard / monito
auto-boot to the hard drive which i can then use SSH with? I want t
use my Ultra 60 (Gentoo Linux) as a server / distcc compiler as
have another 270MHz sun machine which i want to put Gentoo on
Problem is i have only one keyb / mous

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Old 01-16-2008, 03:04 PM
Casper H.S. Dik
 
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Default Re: Suns without keyboards

no@spam.invalid (davidfowler2000) writes:

>I know from experience that a Sun system will not boot to the OpenPROM
>if there is no keyboard attached and you end up needing a serial
>connection.


It will boot but it will not show any output on the video device;
it only sends output to the serial port if no keyboard is present.

If you don't think you'll ever want serial, you could, I think,
try:

eeprom output-device=screen
eeprom input-device=ttya

then the automatic mapping does not happen.

>My question is this - will a Sun system without keyboard / monitor
>auto-boot to the hard drive which i can then use SSH with? I want to
>use my Ultra 60 (Gentoo Linux) as a server / distcc compiler as i
>have another 270MHz sun machine which i want to put Gentoo on.
>Problem is i have only one keyb / mouse


Yes, no problem whatsoever.

Casper
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Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:04 PM
John Reddie
 
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Default Re: Suns without keyboards

davidfowler2000 wrote:
> I know from experience that a Sun system will not boot to the OpenPROM
> if there is no keyboard attached and you end up needing a serial
> connection.
>
> My question is this - will a Sun system without keyboard / monitor
> auto-boot to the hard drive which i can then use SSH with? I want to
> use my Ultra 60 (Gentoo Linux) as a server / distcc compiler as i
> have another 270MHz sun machine which i want to put Gentoo on.
> Problem is i have only one keyb / mouse
>


I run a pair of U60s, one as a workstation and the other as a
development web server (fwiw, both running Debian Sarge but the OS won't
matter). The workstation has keyboard, monitors etc. attached. The
server has nothing. Both boot/reboot fine and I habitually open ssh etc.
from one to the other... There are no issues on the machine with no
keyboard/monitor connected as far as I can determine. Go for it!

John
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Suns without keyboards

Thanks guys. Just asking because i don't have a serial cable to th
job of keeping an eye on it but now that i know it will autoboot t
the harddrive, i can ssh into that wa

Cheer
-Davi

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Old 01-16-2008, 03:04 PM
Dave (from the UK)
 
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davidfowler2000 wrote:
> Thanks guys. Just asking because i don't have a serial cable to the
> job of keeping an eye on it but now that i know it will autoboot to
> the harddrive, i can ssh into that way
>
> Cheers
> -David
>


This is OK for a while, but not a good long term solution. You need to
get a serial lead *or* have a monitor and keyboard you can press into
action when needed.

Otherwise you can't do any tasks that require single user mode.

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Old 01-16-2008, 03:04 PM
Erik Magnuson
 
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Default Re: Suns without keyboards

Dave (from the UK) wrote:
> davidfowler2000 wrote:
>
>> Thanks guys. Just asking because i don't have a serial cable to the
>> job of keeping an eye on it but now that i know it will autoboot to
>> the harddrive, i can ssh into that way
>>
>> Cheers
>> -David
>>

>
> This is OK for a while, but not a good long term solution. You need to
> get a serial lead *or* have a monitor and keyboard you can press into
> action when needed.
>
> Otherwise you can't do any tasks that require single user mode.


It does sound like he has a keyboard he can use if single user mode is
needed, but you do have a valid point. I was running my U-10 is ssh
access mode for a couple of months - and was able to run shutdown over
ssh to halt and power down the machine.

- Erik
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:04 PM
davidfowler2000
 
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Default Re: Suns without keyboards

I do have a keyb if i need to use single user for anything but that
might not be the case. The system is set up as an http, ftp and mysql
server so once it's turned on, it sits without me going near it - ftp
is configured through MySQL and MySQL is kept in check through
PHPMyAdmin (web browser).

Besides, its a noisy bugger so it may end up taking up permanent
residence outside my house (eg work or someplace else) so keyb or no
keyb, it'll be a pain to access locally.

The reason i want it to run on it's own is so i can use my one keyb /
mouse to get Gentoo linux on to another, much slower Sun Ultra 5 so
once i get both of them to talk to each other with distcc, things
should be quite quick at installing

-David

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Old 01-16-2008, 03:04 PM
John Reddie
 
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Default Re: Suns without keyboards

davidfowler2000 wrote:
> I do have a keyb if i need to use single user for anything but that
> might not be the case. The system is set up as an http, ftp and mysql
> server so once it's turned on, it sits without me going near it - ftp
> is configured through MySQL and MySQL is kept in check through
> PHPMyAdmin (web browser).
>
> Besides, its a noisy bugger so it may end up taking up permanent
> residence outside my house (eg work or someplace else) so keyb or no
> keyb, it'll be a pain to access locally.
>
> The reason i want it to run on it's own is so i can use my one keyb /
> mouse to get Gentoo linux on to another, much slower Sun Ultra 5 so
> once i get both of them to talk to each other with distcc, things
> should be quite quick at installing
>
> -David
>

David, that's exactly the same setup I run! I decided to simulate a
power cut a few times and reassure myself that it booted happily
(fsck/journals etc. later) and haven't had a keyboard or monitor near it
since

John
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