Hi all,

If you hate Type 6 keyboards as much as I do, now's your chance
to let the powers that be know! Sun has a keyboard and mouse
requirements survey available from the following URL until
January 22:

http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?...J4KRJGPLCKSWHQ

One note, though: there's a typo on questions 6 and 7. Both
questions should begin "If you answered Yes to Question 5, ...".

Yes this is kosher, and yes I've received permission to post
the URL!

Enjoy,

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:27:25 GMT
Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If you hate Type 6 keyboards as much as I do, now's your chance
> to let the powers that be know! Sun has a keyboard and mouse
> requirements survey available from the following URL until
> January 22:

Yeah!, lets see if they listen.


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I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab.
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All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last week.
Time to die.

Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:

> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Barbie LeVile wrote:
>
> > Yeah!, lets see if they listen.
>
> Fingers crossed...

I'll be happy to supply my input.

I like Ctrl to be below Shift, and I love the feel of the Type 6
keyboards. Honestly!

Chris
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Chris Morgan <cm@mihalis.net> writes:

> Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:
>
> > On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Barbie LeVile wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah!, lets see if they listen.
> >
> > Fingers crossed...
>
> I'll be happy to supply my input.
>
> I like Ctrl to be below Shift, and I love the feel of the Type 6
> keyboards. Honestly!
>

You must be a vi user.



Gregm

Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:

> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Greg Menke wrote:
>
> > You must be a vi user.
>
> Nope, us vi users prefer Control to be to the left of A, so
> that we don't get RSI (or rubber pinky fingers) from trying
> to hit Control all the time (think: touch typist and the home
> keys).

I imagine you'll also want a speaker mounted in the keyboard so the
beeping will be more apparent?

Gregm

Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> wrote:

> If you hate Type 6 keyboards as much as I do, now's your chance
> to let the powers that be know!

Rich, you've done a real service to the community posting this URL.

I've given them extensive comments, not just answering their
predefined questions. I'll be very curious to eventually find out
how well they follow through.

Glenn

In comp.sys.sun.hardware Greg Menke <gregm-news@toadmail.com> wrote:
> I imagine you'll also want a speaker mounted in the keyboard so the
> beeping will be more apparent?

You do realise that most Sun keyboards already have this, don't you?

Scott.

In <1074667908.408373@docbert> Scott Howard <scott@hunterlink.net.au> writes:
>> I imagine you'll also want a speaker mounted in the keyboard so the
>> beeping will be more apparent?
>
>You do realise that most Sun keyboards already have this, don't you?

not the new ones that we all complain about. they have no speaker, no mouse
connector, no substantial feel. sun took one step forward (USB) and three
steps backwards.

where is the Rev. Fool when his favorite topic comes up? still in rehab?

Rich Teer wrote:
> Nope, us vi users prefer Control to be to the left of A, so
> that we don't get RSI (or rubber pinky fingers) from trying
> to hit Control all the time (think: touch typist and the home
> keys).

I filled out the survey and suggested they be the first to do
something the industry has needed for a long, long time, which
is to move the Caps Lock key off to some remote corner of the
keyboard. I don't think the Caps Lock key is *totally* useless,
but its prime real estate position is in no way justified given
how rarely it's really needed.

If they do so, then they'll have some prime real estate open,
and one of the possible uses is to put an extra Control key
there, thus (partly) satisfying both the PC layout people and
the traditional Unix layout people with a single keyboard layout.

Or they could make a bigger Tab key. Anything but this stupid
stateful (but with no physical feedback) key located right next
to two of the most commonly used keys on the whole keyboard!

(Personally, I would like to see a "return" to large, two-row
Enter keys as well. But that'll never happen.)

- Logan

Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> writes:

>I filled out the survey and suggested they be the first to do
>something the industry has needed for a long, long time, which
>is to move the Caps Lock key off to some remote corner of the
>keyboard. I don't think the Caps Lock key is *totally* useless,
>but its prime real estate position is in no way justified given
>how rarely it's really needed.

Well, remember that this is the same industry which ships with
"Numlock on" by default. What is that for?

Casper
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