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I'd like to remove the keyboard that's plugged into my blade 2000. I
know on the earlier machines this would almost certainly drop a Sun to
the OK prompt. Will this happen on the Blade 2000, with its USB keyboard?

Does anyone know the difference between the keyboards from different
countries (US, UK, France etc)? Are there DIP switches inside which
makes the keys produce a different character? Or some other way?

Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the pound
sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and check, but I
don't want to shut the machine down.

US keyboards usually lacks disp-switches. Other country specific
keyboards usually have switches.

The type-6 USB keyboards have a small latch on the vertical surface
right above the Num Lock LED. My US unix keyboard have no switches
under the cover, while the swedish keyboards do have switches there.

Thomas Tornblom wrote:
> US keyboards usually lacks disp-switches. Other country specific
> keyboards usually have switches.
>
> The type-6 USB keyboards have a small latch on the vertical surface
> right above the Num Lock LED. My US unix keyboard have no switches
> under the cover, while the swedish keyboards do have switches there.

Yes, I can see a small 'trap door' there, where is looks switches could
be placed. I don't have any there.

Dave wrote:
> I'd like to remove the keyboard that's plugged into my blade 2000. I
> know on the earlier machines this would almost certainly drop a Sun to
> the OK prompt. Will this happen on the Blade 2000, with its USB keyboard?
>
> Does anyone know the difference between the keyboards from different
> countries (US, UK, France etc)? Are there DIP switches inside which
> makes the keys produce a different character? Or some other way?
>
> Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
> ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the pound
> sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and check, but I
> don't want to shut the machine down.
# kbd -a alternate or kbd -a disable
will change keyboard <stop>+<a> sequence to <~>+<ctrl><b>
or disable it
and you can change keyboard safely.
if you want you can do # kbd -a enable after the change.
/Jorgen

Jorgen Moquist wrote:

> # kbd -a alternate or kbd -a disable
> will change keyboard <stop>+<a> sequence to <~>+<ctrl><b>
> or disable it
> and you can change keyboard safely.
> if you want you can do # kbd -a enable after the change.
> /Jorgen

Thank you. Now I know where the switches are, and my keyboard does not
have them, I will not bother removing the keyboard. I'll try to find a
software solution to remapping the keys. Unfortunately, I would rather
not reboot for a month or so, so things that need a reboot will have to
wait for another week

In comp.unix.solaris Jorgen Moquist <jorgen.moquist@n.o.s.p.a.m.mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:
> # kbd -a alternate or kbd -a disable
> will change keyboard <stop>+<a> sequence to <~>+<ctrl><b>
> or disable it
> and you can change keyboard safely.
> if you want you can do # kbd -a enable after the change.

You can disable a keyboard abort, but not modify the key sequence. The
'alternate' setting only affects serial console.

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Dave <nowhere@nowhere.com> writes:
> I'd like to remove the keyboard that's plugged into my blade 2000. I
> know on the earlier machines this would almost certainly drop a Sun to
> the OK prompt. Will this happen on the Blade 2000, with its USB

Doesn't happen on mine- we have to pull the keyboard cable from time to
time to keep the daughter from wrecking whatever happens to be open when
she gets hold of the keyboard. Keyboard resumes working without issues
when its plugged back in.

Gregm

According to Greg Menke <gusenet@comcast.net>:
>
> Dave <nowhere@nowhere.com> writes:
> > I'd like to remove the keyboard that's plugged into my blade 2000. I
> > know on the earlier machines this would almost certainly drop a Sun to
> > the OK prompt. Will this happen on the Blade 2000, with its USB
>
> Doesn't happen on mine- we have to pull the keyboard cable from time to
> time to keep the daughter from wrecking whatever happens to be open when
> she gets hold of the keyboard. Keyboard resumes working without issues
> when its plugged back in.

And -- I believe that you can plug in a separate keyboard to
another USB socket (you're only using two out of the four for the
keyboard and the mouse/trackball already), so you can probably add a
keyboard with the needed characterset and remove the one which you are
currently using once the new one is verified as recognized and working.

(Yes -- a Logitech trackball will work nicely as a three-button
mouse on at least an Ultra-60 with a USB card, and it even adds a scroll
wheel which some software will honor.

And -- in the meanwhile, you should be able to type a sequence
of {compose-key} followed by two others (such as "compose-e-'" to
produce "é". I just don't know the proper key sequence for accessing
the Pound sign.

Also -- the following were typed using the '<>' (diamond) key as
a shift key, and stepping through the number and letter keys. (My
apologies to anyone whose system I confuse with these characters, which
are part of the extended ASCII set instead of the original 7-bit ASCII.

±²³´µ¶·¸¹°*½Üà
ñ÷åòôùõéïðÛÝ
áóäæçèêë컧
úøãöâîí¬®¯

And the following were typed with both the diamond key and the [SHIFT]
key depressed

¡À£¤¥Þ¦ª¨©ß«üþ
Ñ×ÅÒÔÙÕÉÏÐûý
ÁÓÄÆÇÈÊË̺¢
ÚØÃÖÂÎͼ¾¿

So -- you can get your UK Pound symbol by holding the diamond
and the shift keys while typing '#' (which is often called "pound" here
in the USA, because it is used in combination with a number to indicate
capacity in pounds, such as a "3# bag" is a paper bag to hold 3 pounds
of some substance.

Awkward, but it works -- sometimes. For example, it works for
me in an xterm, but *not* in a dtterm. You'll have to experiment to see
what works for you.

Good Luck,
DoN.
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Huge wrote:
> On 2007-10-17, Dave <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Huge wrote:
>>> On 2007-10-16, Dave <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
>>>> ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the pound
>>>> sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and check, but I
>>>> don't want to shut the machine down.
>>> I guess you've already had the answer to this, but a couple of other points;
>>>
>>> - I have a UK keyboard on my SB2000, which has a GBP sign above the '3'. And the
>>> little door behind & below the 'Num Lock' has a set of dip switches behind it.
>>> they are set to; 10001. The KB is labelled "Type 6 USB".
>>
>> Is that 10001 going left to right, top to bottom, or what?
>
> *grin*
>
> It doesn't make any difference. There are 5 switches, and they're set;

I realised that later!!!!

>
> OFF ON ON ON OFF
>
> (Sorry, I got it bass-ackwards.)

I suspected you might have done.

I got the soldering iron out, and joined the first and last. It has
swapped some keys around, but still i get a #. I am going to take it
apart again and have another try, this time joining the 3 centre ones,
not the 2 outer ones.

Watch this space ...



>
>
>

Dave wrote:
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> I got the soldering iron out, and joined the first and last. It has
> swapped some keys around, but still i get a #. I am going to take it
> apart again and have another try, this time joining the 3 centre ones,
> not the 2 outer ones.
>
> Watch this space ...

I've now swapped changed the solder bridges on the board, but not
entirely successfully.

1) It got rid of the annoying 'ANY' key, which is now an Esc key.
2) No UK pound key
3) The backspace key no longer works as a backspace, but instead prints
'\' or, if the shift key is down, it prints '|'. Since the backspace and
the \ keys are of different sizes, it is not as simple as just moving
the key caps.

A few other keys have moved around. Having some old keyboards around, I
can move the key caps so things look right, but it seems the UK and US
keyboards have different layouts of keys, so it is not as simple as just
bridging the connections.


Not to worry. If the Sun dealer gets off his **** and sends me a quote,
I will buy a new type 7 country kit.