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Old 01-16-2008, 06:32 PM
Carlos Y??ez S.
 
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Default 700/96 terminal and K260 server

Hi to everyone,

This message is not a temporal lapsus or the last part of "Back to the
Future" :-) :

I'm trying to resucitate an HP K260 server, which has been stored for
a couple of years. This beatiful machine is not alone: with it I have
a 700/96 terminal.

When I started the machine, it perfoms all the initial routine and
ends with a "RUN FXXF" message on the display. So, it seems it's all
O.K. but I cannot see a thing at the console.

I've tried all the possible combinations I figured and read (in this
group and websites) but i'haven't achieve the goal: i put the remote
mode on and off and also tried with the Console and External Modem
connectors.

The cable I've used is null-modem kind (electrical and pin layout
tests perfomed).

I guess i should be able to access via telnet but unfortunately i
don't the machine's IP (it's static).

There's someone who has an idea and brings me hope? :-)

Greetings,
Carlos Yáñez S.
carlos.yanez.s@gmail.com
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:32 PM
Hans Martin Schwengeler
 
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Default Re: 700/96 terminal and K260 server

Carlos Y??ez S. wrote:
> Hi to everyone,
>
> This message is not a temporal lapsus or the last part of "Back to the
> Future" :-) :
>
> I'm trying to resucitate an HP K260 server, which has been stored for
> a couple of years. This beatiful machine is not alone: with it I have
> a 700/96 terminal.
>
> When I started the machine, it perfoms all the initial routine and
> ends with a "RUN FXXF" message on the display. So, it seems it's all
> O.K. but I cannot see a thing at the console.
>
> I've tried all the possible combinations I figured and read (in this
> group and websites) but i'haven't achieve the goal: i put the remote
> mode on and off and also tried with the Console and External Modem
> connectors.
>
> The cable I've used is null-modem kind (electrical and pin layout
> tests perfomed).
>
> I guess i should be able to access via telnet but unfortunately i
> don't the machine's IP (it's static).
>
> There's someone who has an idea and brings me hope? :-)
>
> Greetings,
> Carlos Yáñez S.
> carlos.yanez.s@gmail.com

Hallo

You might find the IP with "arp -a" if on the same ethernet segment.

Yours, Hans Martin.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:32 PM
Alan D Johnson
 
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Default Re: 700/96 terminal and K260 server

Hans Martin Schwengeler wrote:
> Carlos Y??ez S. wrote:
>
>> Hi to everyone,
>>
>> This message is not a temporal lapsus or the last part of "Back to the
>> Future" :-) :
>>
>> I'm trying to resucitate an HP K260 server, which has been stored for
>> a couple of years. This beatiful machine is not alone: with it I have
>> a 700/96 terminal.
>>
>> When I started the machine, it perfoms all the initial routine and
>> ends with a "RUN FXXF" message on the display. So, it seems it's all
>> O.K. but I cannot see a thing at the console.
>>
>> I've tried all the possible combinations I figured and read (in this
>> group and websites) but i'haven't achieve the goal: i put the remote
>> mode on and off and also tried with the Console and External Modem
>> connectors.
>>
>> The cable I've used is null-modem kind (electrical and pin layout
>> tests perfomed).
>>
>> I guess i should be able to access via telnet but unfortunately i
>> don't the machine's IP (it's static).
>>
>> There's someone who has an idea and brings me hope? :-)
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Carlos Yáñez S.
>> carlos.yanez.s@gmail.com

>
> Hallo
>
> You might find the IP with "arp -a" if on the same ethernet segment.
>
> Yours, Hans Martin.

The best try would be the following; shutdown the system and the term.
Use a standard 9-25 null modem cable. Turn on the 700/96, you should
hear 1 initial beep and then .. a second press the user/system key (left
of F5)
press F8 config F5 term config, F5 power on default. then F1 save.
power up the system and it is supposed to auto negoitiate,
baud/stop/etc... you should see some garbadge and then you will get POST
codes along the bottom. If all else fails I have HP cable that if you
are in the US I could send you for cost of shipping.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:33 PM
urle - Uli Betzler
 
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Default Re: 700/96 terminal and K260 server

In comp.sys.hp.hardware Carlos Y??ez S. <carlos.yanez.s@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've tried all the possible combinations I figured and read (in this
> group and websites) but i'haven't achieve the goal: i put the remote
> mode on and off and also tried with the Console and External Modem
> connectors.


If there's a graphics card in the box, remove it and the mouse/keyboard
connected to the ps/2 connectors. Then the box should reset the console to
the first serial port at reboot.

urle

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Old 01-16-2008, 06:33 PM
Rick Jones
 
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Default Re: 700/96 terminal and K260 server

what settings have you set on the terminal? is it in "remote" mode?
default console settings on HP kit are 9600n8.

just for grins, have you tried a non-null-modem cable? i'm not sure
that the K class console stuff is still online at docs.hp.com, but I
don't think that anything is terribly different from the newer boxes
(apart from the use of the "W" cable to get three connects from a
single DB25.

rick jones
--
The computing industry isn't as much a game of "Follow The Leader" as
it is one of "Ring Around the Rosy" or perhaps "Duck Duck Goose."
- Rick Jones
these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway...
feel free to post, OR email to raj in cup.hp.com but NOT BOTH...
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: 700/96 terminal and K260 server

Hi,
First of all, thanks for all! (all of you).
I've succesfully logged into the machine via telnet. Despite its age
and the long time spent off, the server is working OK.

Unfortunately the terminal didn't show any signs of life. I've tried
all your recommendations (except changing the cable: the previous
manager assured me the null modem cable connection was right) but even
a single character appeared on screen.

The matter is that i need console access cause i'm going to update the
OS.
There's something else I can do from "inside" the machine (OS i mean)
in order to check the configuration.
(It seems it is a phy layer problem :-( ).
Greetings,
Carlos Yáñez S.
carlos.yanez (at) gmail.com

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Old 01-16-2008, 06:34 PM
Alan D Johnson
 
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Default Re: 700/96 terminal and K260 server

Carlos Yáñez S. wrote:
> Hi,
> First of all, thanks for all! (all of you).
> I've succesfully logged into the machine via telnet. Despite its age
> and the long time spent off, the server is working OK.
>
> Unfortunately the terminal didn't show any signs of life. I've tried
> all your recommendations (except changing the cable: the previous
> manager assured me the null modem cable connection was right) but even
> a single character appeared on screen.
>
> The matter is that i need console access cause i'm going to update the
> OS.
> There's something else I can do from "inside" the machine (OS i mean)
> in order to check the configuration.
> (It seems it is a phy layer problem :-( ).
> Greetings,
> Carlos Yáñez S.
> carlos.yanez (at) gmail.com
>

guess that means you aren't in the us to end a cable, best bet is to see
if you can get a normal null modem cable working to a PC and then you
can use a term emulator, dont use hyperterm.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:34 PM
CBee
 
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Default Re: 700/96 terminal and K260 server

Carlos Y??ez S. wrote:

> Hi to everyone,
>
> This message is not a temporal lapsus or the last part of "Back to the
> Future" :-) :
>
> I'm trying to resucitate an HP K260 server, which has been stored for
> a couple of years. This beatiful machine is not alone: with it I have
> a 700/96 terminal.
>
> When I started the machine, it perfoms all the initial routine and
> ends with a "RUN FXXF" message on the display. So, it seems it's all
> O.K. but I cannot see a thing at the console.
>
> I've tried all the possible combinations I figured and read (in this
> group and websites) but i'haven't achieve the goal: i put the remote
> mode on and off and also tried with the Console and External Modem
> connectors.
>
> The cable I've used is null-modem kind (electrical and pin layout
> tests perfomed).


For the 700/96, you need a straight cable, not the null-modem one. My set came
with the origional one.

You can use your null-modem to connect the HP-UX box to your PC and use
hyperterm (or better).

By head, I recall the settings should be 9600 baud, 8 bits, no parity, no stopbit.

>
> I guess i should be able to access via telnet but unfortunately i
> don't the machine's IP (it's static).
>
> There's someone who has an idea and brings me hope? :-)


If there are any pointers (mice and such) or keyboards connected, it most-likely
defaults to 'workstation'-mode and tries to use a (graphical?) display for console.

btw: my root for info: http://www.openpa.net/, your machine is at
http://www.openpa.net/systems/hawk.html.

CBee
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