I swa an anouncemnet today that HP is droping Itaninium based worksations.
Last time I cheked I though PA-RISC was to be replaced by Itanium.

Is this end of lif ro HP-UX in a workstation context?

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Stan Brown wrote:

> I swa an anouncemnet today that HP is droping Itaninium based worksations.
> Last time I cheked I though PA-RISC was to be replaced by Itanium.
>
> Is this end of lif ro HP-UX in a workstation context?
>
one of the guys I work with said he saw that too, but I have not seen
anything to substantiate it, I believe it is talking about the Windoze
"workstations" not HP-UX workstations.

As far as I remember plan is produce Multi OS compatible HW....i.e. IA
Platform so HP can have one line for Linux/HPUX and possibly other POSIX
variants. Oh I forgot the Windoze 2003 as well on this list.

my2cents
"Stan Brown" <stanb@panix.com> wrote in message
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> I swa an anouncemnet today that HP is droping Itaninium based worksations.
> Last time I cheked I though PA-RISC was to be replaced by Itanium.
>
> Is this end of lif ro HP-UX in a workstation context?
>
> --
> "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
> neither liberty nor safety."
> -- Benjamin Franklin

In <9qadnTtyNObCCcXcRVn-jg@usadatanet.net> Alan D Johnson <adjtech@usadatanet.net> writes:

>Stan Brown wrote:

>> I swa an anouncemnet today that HP is droping Itaninium based worksations.
>> Last time I cheked I though PA-RISC was to be replaced by Itanium.
>>
>> Is this end of lif ro HP-UX in a workstation context?
>>
>one of the guys I work with said he saw that too, but I have not seen
>anything to substantiate it, I believe it is talking about the Windoze
>"workstations" not HP-UX workstations.

Interesting, the last time I listend to the "paln" from HP Itanium was
supposed to be the future, as PA-RISC was onsoloted. Thought U swa the
"last" PA_RISC CPU upgrade, also.


Anyone have the offical HP line on this?
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"Stan Brown" <stanb@panix.com> wrote in message news:cjbg2k$a49$1@reader1.panix.com...
> In <9qadnTtyNObCCcXcRVn-jg@usadatanet.net> Alan D Johnson <adjtech@usadatanet.net> writes:
>
> >Stan Brown wrote:
>
> >> I swa an anouncemnet today that HP is droping Itaninium based worksations.
> >> Last time I cheked I though PA-RISC was to be replaced by Itanium.
> >>
> >> Is this end of lif ro HP-UX in a workstation context?
> >>
> >one of the guys I work with said he saw that too, but I have not seen
> >anything to substantiate it, I believe it is talking about the Windoze
> >"workstations" not HP-UX workstations.
>
> Interesting, the last time I listend to the "paln" from HP Itanium was
> supposed to be the future, as PA-RISC was onsoloted. Thought U swa the
> "last" PA_RISC CPU upgrade, also.
>
>
> Anyone have the offical HP line on this?


"Customers needing a stable HP-UX solution with 3D graphics are encouraged to investigate PA-Risc workstations."

http://www.forbes.com/technology/fee...o o&referrer=

More details were in the original announcement:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/d...923180613.html

Alan D Johnson wrote:

> one of the guys I work with said he saw that too, but I have not seen
> anything to substantiate it, I believe it is talking about the Windoze
> "workstations" not HP-UX workstations.

No, it definitely is the Itanium workstation series that's cancelled.

The Windows workstations bring a lot of renevue, there is no reason why HP
should axe something that brings them a lot of money and is very successful.

Benjamin

Benjamin Gawert wrote:
> Alan D Johnson wrote:
>
>> one of the guys I work with said he saw that too, but I have not seen
>> anything to substantiate it, I believe it is talking about the Windoze
>> "workstations" not HP-UX workstations.
>
>
> No, it definitely is the Itanium workstation series that's cancelled.
>
> The Windows workstations bring a lot of renevue, there is no reason why
> HP should axe something that brings them a lot of money and is very
> successful.
>
> Benjamin
Y'all say that it's true, but I have yet to find an HP link that says it
is so, anyone have the OFFICIAL answer?!? It makes a BIG difference...

Benjamin Gawert wrote:
> Alan D Johnson wrote:
>
>
>>one of the guys I work with said he saw that too, but I have not seen
>>anything to substantiate it, I believe it is talking about the Windoze
>>"workstations" not HP-UX workstations.
>
>
> No, it definitely is the Itanium workstation series that's cancelled.

Okay. But what does that mean to the HP-UX workstations?

> The Windows workstations bring a lot of renevue, there is no reason why HP
> should axe something that brings them a lot of money and is very successful.

?

Alexander Skwar
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"Alan D Johnson" <adjtech@usadatanet.net> wrote in message newsKSdnSl0_MRLi8fcRVn-ow@usadatanet.net...
> Benjamin Gawert wrote:
> > Alan D Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> one of the guys I work with said he saw that too, but I have not seen
> >> anything to substantiate it, I believe it is talking about the Windoze
> >> "workstations" not HP-UX workstations.
> >
> >
> > No, it definitely is the Itanium workstation series that's cancelled.
> >
> > The Windows workstations bring a lot of renevue, there is no reason why
> > HP should axe something that brings them a lot of money and is very
> > successful.

Uh, the itanium workstations were intended to run Windoze, Linux, and HP-UX.
Sales of all three combined have been insignificant. They've all been killed, replaced
by EM64T technology workstations that run Linux and Windoze.

In reality, the whole itanium program was effectively killed back in February, when HP
announced servers based on EM64T chips. They just haven't given it a decent burial yet:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/02...r_cheerleader/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/02...o_sank_itanic/

> >
> > Benjamin
> Y'all say that it's true, but I have yet to find an HP link that says it
> is so, anyone have the OFFICIAL answer?!? It makes a BIG difference...

The lack of itanium workstations on the web site might be the best clue for now.
Would be nice to have an official press release on the subject, but that apparently
is asking too much from the people who currently run the company.

-Dave

Alexander W. Skwar wrote:

>> No, it definitely is the Itanium workstation series that's cancelled.
>
> Okay. But what does that mean to the HP-UX workstations?

Well, they will run out. Looks like HP is staying with PA-RISC for the next
years until the workstation customers moved to something on x86-64. The
current UNIX workstation market is very small, and it will decrease further
in the future. More and more tasks can be done on Windows/x86 (and x86-64 in
the near future) at lower costs. So the room for UNIX workstations
eventually won't be there any more after maybe ~5yrs from now.

I understand this decision. Itanium was meant to be a multi-OS platform. For
the workstations this should have been Windows, Linux, AIX and HP-UX.
Windowsxp64 for IA64 has already been abandoned by the few vendors that had
supported it some time ago. Most Linux distributions for IA64 can be labeled
"ancient". AIX for IA64 has also has been axed by IBM after they broke with
SCO about Monterey. So basically HP-UX is the only current operating system
for the IA64 platform. But for the constantly decreasing UNIX workstation
market there is no reason for HP to keep two UNIX workstation lines (PA-RISC
and IA64), and since PA-RISC is much more widespread they killed the
IA64-desktops. Especially with the arrival of commodity 64bit systems
running Windows and Linux that will take over most of the remaining small
UNIX workstation market.

But then, Itanium was never a great workstation CPU. It excels in the server
market, and HP for sure will stay with IA64 in their high end servers.
That's where there is room (and demand) for Itanium.

>> The Windows workstations bring a lot of renevue, there is no reason
>> why HP should axe something that brings them a lot of money and is
>> very successful.
>
> ?

What was unclear in this part?

Benjamin