hi
i need help with this little problem i have.

i don't know much on hp-unix but my friend has an old hp workstation
...running on the motorola 68030 processor. i dont know any details
just that theres a hp-ux v3.2 on the machine.

now i need some help on how to add a second scsi hard drive. how to
mount it and all other info ..or at least some links to resources on
the net.

thnx
kroff

kroff <kroff@mail.ru> wrote:
> hi
> i need help with this little problem i have.
>
> i don't know much on hp-unix but my friend has an old hp workstation
> ..running on the motorola 68030 processor. i dont know any details
> just that theres a hp-ux v3.2 on the machine.
>
> now i need some help on how to add a second scsi hard drive. how to
> mount it and all other info ..or at least some links to resources on
> the net.

Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I strongly doubt that there was a
HP-UX 3.2 for the HP 9000 systems with a Motorola 68030 (probably Series
200 or Series 300). If there was, then I strongly doubt that it had SCSI.

So please give some more details about the system. Minimum "uname -a"
output and the (*full*) product name and product number of the system.
The product number is probably on the back and probably is four or five
digits with a letter. If there are more of such numbers, then give them
all.

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I strongly doubt that there was a
> HP-UX 3.2 for the HP 9000 systems with a Motorola 68030 (probably Series
> 200 or Series 300). If there was, then I strongly doubt that it had SCSI.

I believe that Frank is correct - my recollection is that HP-UX 3.X
was the release range for the PA-RISC Unix systems - the HP 9000
Series 800's. The 68K-based workstations ran stuff like 6.5 prior to
the "merging of the release stream names" with either 8.0 or 7.0 (I
cannot remember which that was). It would not surprise me if the
comp.sys.hp.hpux FAQ had something on the topic, nor would it surprise
me if "HP-UX history" as a search in google could find useful stuff on
that score.

Also, not all the HP 68K-based systems had SCSI interfaces. Some of
them used HP-IB instead - although by the time 68030's were in the
workstations I think they started having SCSI. (Slow, Narrow,
Single-Ended SCSI that is...)

rick jones
--
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feel free to post, OR email to raj in cup.hp.com but NOT BOTH...

Rick Jones wrote:

> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I strongly doubt that there was a
>>HP-UX 3.2 for the HP 9000 systems with a Motorola 68030 (probably Series
>>200 or Series 300). If there was, then I strongly doubt that it had SCSI.
>
>
> I believe that Frank is correct - my recollection is that HP-UX 3.X
> was the release range for the PA-RISC Unix systems - the HP 9000
> Series 800's. The 68K-based workstations ran stuff like 6.5 prior to
> the "merging of the release stream names" with either 8.0 or 7.0 (I
> cannot remember which that was). It would not surprise me if the
> comp.sys.hp.hpux FAQ had something on the topic, nor would it surprise
> me if "HP-UX history" as a search in google could find useful stuff on
> that score.
>
> Also, not all the HP 68K-based systems had SCSI interfaces. Some of
> them used HP-IB instead - although by the time 68030's were in the
> workstations I think they started having SCSI. (Slow, Narrow,
> Single-Ended SCSI that is...)
>
> rick jones
It might be a HP-Apollo that's running Domain OS.. what were they when
they got together? BSD sumtin... too long ago. I think they will run
9.0x, depends on if it is an Apollo or HP-Apollo.

Alan Johnson wrote:

> Rick Jones wrote:
>
>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I strongly doubt that there was a
>>> HP-UX 3.2 for the HP 9000 systems with a Motorola 68030 (probably Series
>>> 200 or Series 300). If there was, then I strongly doubt that it had
>>> SCSI.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe that Frank is correct - my recollection is that HP-UX 3.X
>> was the release range for the PA-RISC Unix systems - the HP 9000
>> Series 800's. The 68K-based workstations ran stuff like 6.5 prior to
>> the "merging of the release stream names" with either 8.0 or 7.0 (I
>> cannot remember which that was). It would not surprise me if the
>> comp.sys.hp.hpux FAQ had something on the topic, nor would it surprise
>> me if "HP-UX history" as a search in google could find useful stuff on
>> that score.
>>
>> Also, not all the HP 68K-based systems had SCSI interfaces. Some of
>> them used HP-IB instead - although by the time 68030's were in the
>> workstations I think they started having SCSI. (Slow, Narrow,
>> Single-Ended SCSI that is...)
>>
>> rick jones
>
> It might be a HP-Apollo that's running Domain OS.. what were they when
> they got together? BSD sumtin... too long ago. I think they will run
> 9.0x, depends on if it is an Apollo or HP-Apollo.

A pure Apollo 68K or PRISM (Apollo RISC) machine won't run HP-UX at all,
only Domain/OS. Around the acquisition timeframe the current Domain
rev was SR10.3, and the current HP-UX rev was 8.01/8.05 for the
700 series (snakes) workstations, 8.0 (I think) for 800 series
servers. This was 1990-1991. The 800 series were still HP-IB at
that point, I think, and the 700 series had single ended
SCSI as Rick correctly notes.

HP-UX 3.x (if indeed that's what we're talking about) is almost
certainly for a pre-SCSI machine, and most likely pre-68030
as noted.

Domain/OS was its own beastie, but had compatibility layers for both
BSD and SysV Unix flavors, btw.

- Greg
--
Greg Cagle
gregc at gregcagle dot com

Alan Johnson wrote:

> Rick Jones wrote:
>
>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I strongly doubt that there was a
>>> HP-UX 3.2 for the HP 9000 systems with a Motorola 68030 (probably Series
>>> 200 or Series 300). If there was, then I strongly doubt that it had
>>> SCSI.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe that Frank is correct - my recollection is that HP-UX 3.X
>> was the release range for the PA-RISC Unix systems - the HP 9000
>> Series 800's. The 68K-based workstations ran stuff like 6.5 prior to
>> the "merging of the release stream names" with either 8.0 or 7.0 (I
>> cannot remember which that was). It would not surprise me if the
>> comp.sys.hp.hpux FAQ had something on the topic, nor would it surprise
>> me if "HP-UX history" as a search in google could find useful stuff on
>> that score.
>>
>> Also, not all the HP 68K-based systems had SCSI interfaces. Some of
>> them used HP-IB instead - although by the time 68030's were in the
>> workstations I think they started having SCSI. (Slow, Narrow,
>> Single-Ended SCSI that is...)
>>
>> rick jones
>
> It might be a HP-Apollo that's running Domain OS.. what were they when
> they got together? BSD sumtin... too long ago. I think they will run
> 9.0x, depends on if it is an Apollo or HP-Apollo.

A pure Apollo 68K or PRISM (Apollo RISC) machine won't run HP-UX at all,
only Domain/OS. Around the acquisition timeframe the current Domain
rev was SR10.3, and the current HP-UX rev was 8.01/8.05 for the
700 series (snakes) workstations, 8.0 (I think) for 800 series
servers. This was 1990-1991. The 800 series were still HP-IB at
that point, I think, and the 700 series had single ended
SCSI as Rick correctly notes.

HP-UX 3.x (if indeed that's what we're talking about) is almost
certainly for a pre-SCSI machine, and most likely pre-68030
as noted.

Domain/OS was its own beastie, but had compatibility layers for both
BSD and SysV Unix flavors, btw.

- Greg
--
Greg Cagle
gregc at gregcagle dot com

kroff@mail.ru (kroff) writes:

> hi
> i need help with this little problem i have.
>
> i don't know much on hp-unix but my friend has an old hp workstation
> ..running on the motorola 68030 processor. i dont know any details
> just that theres a hp-ux v3.2 on the machine.

Possibly a candidate for the HP museum. I only know MS-DOS 3.20...

>
> now i need some help on how to add a second scsi hard drive. how to
> mount it and all other info ..or at least some links to resources on
> the net.
>
> thnx
> kroff

Greg Cagle wrote:
> Alan Johnson wrote:
>
>> Rick Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I strongly doubt that there was a
>>>> HP-UX 3.2 for the HP 9000 systems with a Motorola 68030 (probably
>>>> Series
>>>> 200 or Series 300). If there was, then I strongly doubt that it had
>>>> SCSI.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe that Frank is correct - my recollection is that HP-UX 3.X
>>> was the release range for the PA-RISC Unix systems - the HP 9000
>>> Series 800's. The 68K-based workstations ran stuff like 6.5 prior to
>>> the "merging of the release stream names" with either 8.0 or 7.0 (I
>>> cannot remember which that was). It would not surprise me if the
>>> comp.sys.hp.hpux FAQ had something on the topic, nor would it surprise
>>> me if "HP-UX history" as a search in google could find useful stuff on
>>> that score.
>>>
>>> Also, not all the HP 68K-based systems had SCSI interfaces. Some of
>>> them used HP-IB instead - although by the time 68030's were in the
>>> workstations I think they started having SCSI. (Slow, Narrow,
>>> Single-Ended SCSI that is...)
>>>
>>> rick jones
>>
>>
>> It might be a HP-Apollo that's running Domain OS.. what were they when
>> they got together? BSD sumtin... too long ago. I think they will run
>> 9.0x, depends on if it is an Apollo or HP-Apollo.
>
>
> A pure Apollo 68K or PRISM (Apollo RISC) machine won't run HP-UX at all,
> only Domain/OS. Around the acquisition timeframe the current Domain
> rev was SR10.3, and the current HP-UX rev was 8.01/8.05 for the
> 700 series (snakes) workstations, 8.0 (I think) for 800 series
> servers. This was 1990-1991. The 800 series were still HP-IB at
> that point, I think, and the 700 series had single ended
> SCSI as Rick correctly notes.
>
> HP-UX 3.x (if indeed that's what we're talking about) is almost
> certainly for a pre-SCSI machine, and most likely pre-68030
> as noted.
>
> Domain/OS was its own beastie, but had compatibility layers for both
> BSD and SysV Unix flavors, btw.
>
> - Greg
I wasn't sure of the time frame or when they "melded" them, I got rid of
my DN10K about 7 years ago, made a great space heater!

Alan Johnson wrote:
>
> I wasn't sure of the time frame or when they "melded" them, I got rid of
> my DN10K about 7 years ago, made a great space heater!

I know someone who has one as an end table.

--
Greg Cagle
gregc at gregcagle dot com

Greg Cagle wrote:
> Alan Johnson wrote:
>
>>
>> I wasn't sure of the time frame or when they "melded" them, I got rid
>> of my DN10K about 7 years ago, made a great space heater!
>
>
> I know someone who has one as an end table.
>
Works great for that, plus if you clean out the insides of the card cage
you have lots of storage. I will say though that was one of the most
interesting machines I ever worked on.