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Old 01-16-2008, 05:35 PM
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Default HP 9000/340 without monitor/keyboard - console?

Hi,

I have an HP 9000/340 that I'd like to play around with, but I don't
have an RGB monitor
to connect it to, nor do I have a keyboard or mouse for it. Is it
possible to use a terminal emulation
program on a Windows machine as a console to access the 340 via a serial
cable? If so, what communication
settings would I use in the terminal program? I believe switch 3 in the
switch block on the back
of the machine is used to activate console mode. Should this switch be
up or down?

Thank you for any suggestions,

Mark

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:35 PM
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> I have an HP 9000/340 that I'd like to play around with, but I don't
> have an RGB monitor
> to connect it to, nor do I have a keyboard or mouse for it.


If you're in the UK I know where I can get you a monitor, kb and mouse
for it :-)

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John Burns wrote:

>>I have an HP 9000/340 that I'd like to play around with, but I don't
>>have an RGB monitor
>>to connect it to, nor do I have a keyboard or mouse for it.
>>
>>

>
>If you're in the UK I know where I can get you a monitor, kb and mouse
>for it :-)
>
>
>

Nope, I'm on the other side of the pond.

Mark

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:36 PM
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Using a vt100 emulator you could try setting your terminal to 9600 7N1.
Then boot the 340. IIRC, you may have to interact with the boot process
to get it to stay with the serial connection.

I haven't used a 3xx series in seven years, so this is a reach.

ryan

default wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an HP 9000/340 that I'd like to play around with, but I don't
> have an RGB monitor
> to connect it to, nor do I have a keyboard or mouse for it. Is it
> possible to use a terminal emulation
> program on a Windows machine as a console to access the 340 via a serial
> cable? If so, what communication
> settings would I use in the terminal program? I believe switch 3 in the
> switch block on the back
> of the machine is used to activate console mode. Should this switch be
> up or down?
> Thank you for any suggestions,
>
> Mark
>


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Old 01-16-2008, 05:36 PM
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ryan wrote:

> Using a vt100 emulator you could try setting your terminal to 9600
> 7N1. Then boot the 340. IIRC, you may have to interact with the boot
> process to get it to stay with the serial connection.
>
> I haven't used a 3xx series in seven years, so this is a reach.
>
> ryan



Thanks for the suggestions. I was just able to hook up a PC through a
null modem cable to the setial port on the 340 and set it to vt100, 9600
8N1, and it worked. 7N1 didn't work. It boots into HP-UX 7 from a SCSI
disk I have, but it keeps saying, "Suspending HP VUE... Press [RETURN]
for a login prompt. Log in. HP VUE will resume shortly after you log
out", but it doesn't respond to the return key through the console. I
think it's doing this because it was set to boot into X-Windows, but
there is no monitor attached. Is there any way around this without a
monitor or keyboard, using just the console?

Mark

>
> default wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an HP 9000/340 that I'd like to play around with, but I don't
>> have an RGB monitor
>> to connect it to, nor do I have a keyboard or mouse for it. Is it
>> possible to use a terminal emulation
>> program on a Windows machine as a console to access the 340 via a
>> serial cable? If so, what communication
>> settings would I use in the terminal program? I believe switch 3 in
>> the switch block on the back
>> of the machine is used to activate console mode. Should this switch
>> be up or down?
>> Thank you for any suggestions,
>>
>> Mark
>>

>


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Old 01-16-2008, 05:37 PM
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:49:54 -0500, default wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have an HP 9000/340 that I'd like to play around with, but I don't
> have an RGB monitor
> to connect it to, nor do I have a keyboard or mouse for it. Is it
> possible to use a terminal emulation
> program on a Windows machine as a console to access the 340 via a serial
> cable? If so, what communication
> settings would I use in the terminal program? I believe switch 3 in the
> switch block on the back
> of the machine is used to activate console mode. Should this switch be
> up or down?
>
> Thank you for any suggestions,
>
> Mark
>


the most painless client would probably be wrq reflection for hp-ux
<http://www.wrq.com/products/reflection/host_type/hp_e3000.html>. you can
download a free trial version from the webiste to play around with... hp
uses a special terminal type (2392) which most emulators i'm familliar
with do not include support for. a standard (not reflection) terminal
emulator will include modes which will work to an extent (vt220, vt100,
etc...)but you may have problems with certain things not working quite
the way they should (ie. bad key maps or graphic distortions).
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 02:02:52 -0500, default wrote:

> there is no monitor attached. Is there any way around this without a
> monitor or keyboard, using just the console?



assuming the graphics card is removable, just take it out. on the next
boot the default display should be set to the console port.
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Mark
 
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marmaladeboy wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 02:02:52 -0500, default wrote:
>
>
>
>>there is no monitor attached. Is there any way around this without a
>>monitor or keyboard, using just the console?
>>
>>

>
>
>assuming the graphics card is removable, just take it out. on the next
>boot the default display should be set to the console port.
>
>

Thanks for your suggestions. The graphics card isn't removable, but
I'll try your suggestion of using a terminal program that can emulate
the HP 2392.

Mark

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:38 PM
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Check out this link:
http://www.blobulent.com:16080/hp300/FAQ/rossspon/

It is speaking about a 345/375/380 unit. The 340 should also have a
serial port.

ryan

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:39 PM
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Mark wrote:

> marmaladeboy wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 02:02:52 -0500, default wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> there is no monitor attached. Is there any way around this without a
>>> monitor or keyboard, using just the console?
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>> assuming the graphics card is removable, just take it out. on the next
>> boot the default display should be set to the console port.
>>
>>

> Thanks for your suggestions. The graphics card isn't removable, but
> I'll try your suggestion of using a terminal program that can emulate
> the HP 2392.
>


Some of those systems use the keyboard connection for selecting the console:
connected keyboard uses that one and the graphics card for console. Removed
keyboard uses the lowest tty port for console (9800 baud, 8 bits, no parity).

CBee


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