http://www.boursorama.com/infos/actu...news=29477 14

Hewlett Packard: le conseil général de l'Isère souhaite récupérer
1,25 M EUR

Sounds fair, especially if there was a contract that stated the jobs would
exist until 2008.

Mike Ober.

<mark_hpq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://www.boursorama.com/infos/actu...news=29477 14

Hewlett Packard: le conseil général de l'Isère souhaite récupérer
1,25 M EUR

mark_hpq@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://www.boursorama.com/infos/actu...news=29477 14
>
> Hewlett Packard: le conseil général de l'Isère souhaite récupérer
> 1,25 M EUR

Q. Just how screwed up _is_ the French economic model?
A. So much so that they need to pay companies to create jobs there.

A few years back France decided the way to ease its chronic unemployment
problems was to mandate a shorter work week - at the same pay, of course
- forcing employers to hire 10% more workers to get the same man-hours
of work.

The rest of the world laughed at first. Then, when it was clear this
wasn't a sick joke, they gasped.

France, undaunted, undeterred went ahead with this great, new economic
idea! Now, of course, unemployment is back where it was before the Great
Idea and companies in France are much less competitive.

How long will France continue to wallow in the Economic Dark Ages?

Z wrote:
> Q. Just how screwed up _is_ the French economic model?
> A. So much so that they need to pay companies to create jobs there.

Same applies to Boeing in Washington State and every other state Boeing
has facilities, same happens wherever GM/Ford/Chrysler have plants and
the list goes on and on in the USA.

I realise that since 2003, it has become fashionable to insult your new
enemy France. But your ilsuls apply equally to most western nations,
including your own.

Z wrote:
> Q. Just how screwed up _is_ the French economic model?
> A. So much so that they need to pay companies to create jobs there.

Whatever, but you're missing the point: HP took happily that money and
now wants to run away with it.
But what would you expect from HP...
http://www.thechannelinsider.com/art...1857360,00.asp

S

Hi Z,

if you put political statements of an uninformed in the world, you
should have the standing to do this with your full name.

I don't mind, pseudonyms in technical debates, but if you get personal,
stand for with your person.

Florian

IIRC, the automotive unions here in the US did something like this a while
back in order to create more jobs...

"Z" <Z@no.spam> wrote in message news:0GKXe.15655$Q71.1178@fe02.lga...
mark_hpq@yahoo.com wrote:
>
http://www.boursorama.com/infos/actu...news=29477 14
>
> Hewlett Packard: le conseil général de l'Isère souhaite récupérer
> 1,25 M EUR

Q. Just how screwed up _is_ the French economic model?
A. So much so that they need to pay companies to create jobs there.

A few years back France decided the way to ease its chronic unemployment
problems was to mandate a shorter work week - at the same pay, of course
- forcing employers to hire 10% more workers to get the same man-hours
of work.

The rest of the world laughed at first. Then, when it was clear this
wasn't a sick joke, they gasped.

France, undaunted, undeterred went ahead with this great, new economic
idea! Now, of course, unemployment is back where it was before the Great
Idea and companies in France are much less competitive.

How long will France continue to wallow in the Economic Dark Ages?

[crossposted to comp.sys.hp.hpux, comp.os.vms]
[followups to comp.os.vms]

Florian Anwander <spam.interessiert.nicht@mnet-online.de> wrote in
news:3p9vkmF9dkngU1@individual.net:

<snip>

> I don't mind, pseudonyms in technical debates, but if you get personal,
> stand for with your person.

The original crosspost should have been ignored by all parties. The
crosspost between a unix group and a VMS group is pretty inappropriate.

I'm sure were the pseudononymous person a regular in your group you might
have been more forgiving although I understand the sentiment.


Doc.
--
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Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems.

JF Mezei wrote:
> I realise that since 2003, it has become fashionable to insult your new

Since 2003? No, I've been doing it since the ridiclous shortened work
week "solution" to unemployment - that was long before 2003.

S wrote:
> Whatever, but you're missing the point: HP took happily that money and
> now wants to run away with it.

I agree that if HP broke the deal, they should give it back.

However, it's not yet clear that they broke the deal.