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Is it possible to install an earlier revision of the base
operating system from a more recent DVD?

Specifically, I have a zx6000 that was last officially
supported by the May 2005 release of HP-UX 11.23, while the
only version of the DVD I can get from HP is the December
2007 revision. Is it simply a matter of modifying the DVD
so that the 12/2007 QPKBASE and HWENABLE patches are not
installed? Or is the December 2007 DVD substantially more
than the base operating environment with the patches
included?

--
Dan

danholm@gee-mail.invalid wrote:
> Is it possible to install an earlier revision of the base
> operating system from a more recent DVD?

You can boot off the CD & you should be able to de-select
whatever you don't need from the Ignite configuration
menu.

>
> Specifically, I have a zx6000 that was last officially
> supported by the May 2005 release of HP-UX 11.23, while the
> only version of the DVD I can get from HP is the December
> 2007 revision. Is it simply a matter of modifying the DVD
> so that the 12/2007 QPKBASE and HWENABLE patches are not
> installed? Or is the December 2007 DVD substantially more
> than the base operating environment with the patches
> included?

IMHO, if zx6000 was supported with 11.23 May-05, it should
still be supported with all 11.23 revisions newer than May-05.

Is the RBI (Read before install guide) of 11.23 Dec-07 saying
anything about zx6000 being not supported ? If not, the
install should still work. If you are not interested in the
updates - you could swremove them after installation.

--vishwas.

Vishwas Pai <noname@noland.invalid> wrote:

> You can boot off the CD & you should be able to de-select
> whatever you don't need from the Ignite configuration
> menu.

The 12/2007 patches are marked as required in the configuration
menu, so it will require either making a copy of the DVD and
somehow modifying the index to not include those updates, or
installing over the network with a modified configuration.

I just don't know if the updates to the DVD all contain the
same base operating system, differing only by the patches that
are included, or if there are other differences that would
make it unlikely to achieve what I'm looking for.

> IMHO, if zx6000 was supported with 11.23 May-05, it should
> still be supported with all 11.23 revisions newer than May-05.

The RBI states that 5/2005 is the last version that supports
the zx6000. Apparently HP-UX dropped support for workstation
class machines after that update.

I didn't even realize that until after I installed 11.31. It
installed successfully, but I'm having weird issues like the
USB keyboard getting "stuck" after a few minutes of use. I am
not certain that's due to an unsupported version of the OS, but
it seems reasonable to rule that out by installing 5/2005.

--
Dan

danholm@gee-mail.invalid wrote:
>> You can boot off the CD & you should be able to de-select
>> whatever you don't need from the Ignite configuration
>> menu.
>
> The 12/2007 patches are marked as required in the configuration

;-(

> menu, so it will require either making a copy of the DVD and
> somehow modifying the index to not include those updates, or
> installing over the network with a modified configuration.
>
> I just don't know if the updates to the DVD all contain the
> same base operating system, differing only by the patches that
> are included, or if there are other differences that would
> make it unlikely to achieve what I'm looking for.

AFAIK! this is true. But some patches will have dependencies
so this will certainly be a tedious job to remove those
patches from the copied depot and getting it to install/work
properly.

>> IMHO, if zx6000 was supported with 11.23 May-05, it should
>> still be supported with all 11.23 revisions newer than May-05.
>
> The RBI states that 5/2005 is the last version that supports
> the zx6000. Apparently HP-UX dropped support for workstation
> class machines after that update.
>
> I didn't even realize that until after I installed 11.31. It
> installed successfully, but I'm having weird issues like the
> USB keyboard getting "stuck" after a few minutes of use. I am
> not certain that's due to an unsupported version of the OS, but
> it seems reasonable to rule that out by installing 5/2005.

What kind of problems are you facing by installing Dec-07 11.23
on his system ?

--vishwas.

danholm@gee-mail.invalid writes:

> Is it possible to install an earlier revision of the base
> operating system from a more recent DVD?
>
> Specifically, I have a zx6000 that was last officially
> supported by the May 2005 release of HP-UX 11.23, while the
> only version of the DVD I can get from HP is the December
> 2007 revision. Is it simply a matter of modifying the DVD
> so that the 12/2007 QPKBASE and HWENABLE patches are not
> installed? Or is the December 2007 DVD substantially more
> than the base operating environment with the patches
> included?

IMHO the newer revision of the OE is _not_ just the patch bundles, but also
software packages (like drivers). Leaving away just the patches is probably
not what you want.

The good news is that I have plenty of old HP-UX 11.23 OE media... ;-)

Regards,
Ulrich