Hi everybody,

there was a time HP sent owners of HP-UX 10.20 free upgrade CDs to
11.00. I didn't order them because of my system being too old to support
11.00 that days.
Now I have a much newer workstation with HP-UX 10.20 on it but I like to
switch to 11.00, so I don't have to compile all needed freeware-stuff
for myself, because the HP-UX porting center stopped building binaries
for 10.20. I asked HP if I could still get a free media set from them,
but they said that these kinds of "givaways" have ended.
Can anybody supply me with a mediaset of 11.00 which he/she doesn't need
anymore, perhaps because of switching to 11i or something.

Thanks in advance

Johannes

While I have no specific knowledge of the dates involved (perhaps
there is something onine) you might want to consider that before tooo
much longer HP-UX 11.0 will EOL just as 10.20 has and so the same
sorts of things may happen to it as have happened to 10.20 wrt the
porting archives and such. I would suggest you come-forward in OS
release time as far as you can modulo the hardware you have. PA and
IPF are up to 11.23 (aka 11iv2 Update 2) now.

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Johannes Raspe wrote:

> there was a time HP sent owners of HP-UX 10.20 free upgrade CDs to
> 11.00.

Certainly not. HP sent owners of 700 series computers (workstations) free
10.20 CD sets for a certain period in 1999 because the older HP-UX releases
can't be made Y2k compliant.

The upgrade to 11.0 always has been payware...

On the other side, if it's for hobby purposes HP usually doesn't care what
HP-UX release You're running on Your machine, as long as You don't use it to
make money...

Benjamin

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Benjamin Gawert wrote:
> Johannes Raspe wrote:
>
>> there was a time HP sent owners of HP-UX 10.20 free upgrade CDs to
>> 11.00.
>
>
> Certainly not. HP sent owners of 700 series computers (workstations)
> free 10.20 CD sets for a certain period in 1999 because the older HP-UX
> releases can't be made Y2k compliant.

Sorry, but certainly yes. They called it the "Easy-Setup" initiative.
See this excerpt from "http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/" (Q 8.51):

"In the past, if you owned an HP-UX workstation (series 700) system, HP-UX
11.0 media could be obtained for free as part of HP's Easy Setup
initiative. Unfortunately, since Easy Setup functionality is now built
into the standard HP-UX 11.0 and 11i distributions, free media is no
longer provided."

> The upgrade to 11.0 always has been payware...
>
> On the other side, if it's for hobby purposes HP usually doesn't care
> what HP-UX release You're running on Your machine, as long as You don't
> use it to make money...
>
> Benjamin
>
Johannes

Rick Jones <foo@bar.baz.invalid> wrote:
> While I have no specific knowledge of the dates involved (perhaps
> there is something onine) you might want to consider that before tooo
> much longer HP-UX 11.0 will EOL just as 10.20 has and so the same
> sorts of things may happen to it as have happened to 10.20 wrt the
> porting archives and such. I would suggest you come-forward in OS
> release time as far as you can modulo the hardware you have. PA and
> IPF are up to 11.23 (aka 11iv2 Update 2) now.

PA-RISC workstations have only reached 11.11.

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Johannes Raspe wrote:

> Sorry, but certainly yes. They called it the "Easy-Setup" initiative.
> See this excerpt from "http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/" (Q
> 8.51):
> "In the past, if you owned an HP-UX workstation (series 700) system,
> HP-UX 11.0 media could be obtained for free as part of HP's Easy Setup
> initiative. Unfortunately, since Easy Setup functionality is now built
> into the standard HP-UX 11.0 and 11i distributions, free media is no
> longer provided."

That really surprises me, as we had to pay hard money for upgrading from
10.20 to 11.0 for all our workstations.

But then, this wouldn't be the first time a FAQ is wrong...

Benjamin

Benjamin Gawert wrote:
> Johannes Raspe wrote:
>
>
>>Sorry, but certainly yes. They called it the "Easy-Setup" initiative.
>>See this excerpt from "http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/" (Q
>>8.51):
>>"In the past, if you owned an HP-UX workstation (series 700) system,
>>HP-UX 11.0 media could be obtained for free as part of HP's Easy Setup
>>initiative. Unfortunately, since Easy Setup functionality is now built
>>into the standard HP-UX 11.0 and 11i distributions, free media is no
>>longer provided."
>
>
> That really surprises me, as we had to pay hard money for upgrading from
> 10.20 to 11.0 for all our workstations.
>
> But then, this wouldn't be the first time a FAQ is wrong...

Benjamin, the FAQ is correct. I was a member of the workstation
team that put Easy Setup together and helped define the content.
Chuck Cairns on my team was the guy who really drove it from HP.
The intent was to distribute media that would allow a workstation
to be installed fairly painlessly, and also to help workstation
customers migrate to 11.0.

It may be that your upgrade happened after Easy Setup was available;
or it may be that Easy Setup was a North America only program (?).

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Greg Cagle wrote:

> Benjamin, the FAQ is correct. I was a member of the workstation
> team that put Easy Setup together and helped define the content.
> Chuck Cairns on my team was the guy who really drove it from HP.
> The intent was to distribute media that would allow a workstation
> to be installed fairly painlessly, and also to help workstation
> customers migrate to 11.0.

Thanks for the info. That's really interesting...

> It may be that your upgrade happened after Easy Setup was available;
> or it may be that Easy Setup was a North America only program (?).

Looks like it wasn't available here in Germany...

Benjamin

"Benjamin Gawert" <bgawert@gmx.de> writes:
>
> Looks like it wasn't available here in Germany...

It was.
I got 2 CDs from HP. But they were someway broken. I was never able to boot
these (B180L and B1000).
I bought an official medias set later and everything worked well.

Roman
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