I am trying to recover a system that was configured with two disks to
a system configured with one larger disk. the initial system did not
use LVM. I made a recovery system on the initial system and I am
trying to recover it to the new system with the one disk.

The interactive ignite-ux utility is telling me that the disk is too
big and I need to configure using LVM, but there is nowhere to do this
within the menus and it will not proceed until I do so.

Any suggestions?

Chris (lugbauer@gfscomputing.com) wrote:
: I am trying to recover a system that was configured with two disks to
: a system configured with one larger disk. the initial system did not
: use LVM. I made a recovery system on the initial system and I am
: trying to recover it to the new system with the one disk.

: The interactive ignite-ux utility is telling me that the disk is too
: big and I need to configure using LVM, but there is nowhere to do this
: within the menus and it will not proceed until I do so.

: Any suggestions?

been a long time since I did this, but is there an advanced option?
Usually in there you can play games with disks and the like. The
docs should be over on docs.hp.com
--
Jim Hollenback
jholly@cup.hp.com
my opinion.

Boot from the ignite tape. If you did not use the -i option during creation
you have to hit a key some time to get in the menu.
Choose install ->advanced and there you can change disks, lv's, ip nr's and
other stuff.


"Jim Hollenback" <jholly@cup.hp.com> wrote in message
news:3f975258$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> Chris (lugbauer@gfscomputing.com) wrote:
> : I am trying to recover a system that was configured with two disks to
> : a system configured with one larger disk. the initial system did not
> : use LVM. I made a recovery system on the initial system and I am
> : trying to recover it to the new system with the one disk.
>
> : The interactive ignite-ux utility is telling me that the disk is too
> : big and I need to configure using LVM, but there is nowhere to do this
> : within the menus and it will not proceed until I do so.
>
> : Any suggestions?
>
> been a long time since I did this, but is there an advanced option?
> Usually in there you can play games with disks and the like. The
> docs should be over on docs.hp.com
> --
> Jim Hollenback
> jholly@cup.hp.com
> my opinion.

Jim,

I believe I can help you.

Once the system boot from the Recovery tape, interrupt so you can interact
with Ignite. I don't remember the precise text of the prompts that you will
see, but hopefully I'll be close enough.

Choose "Install HP-UX" and on the next screen, choose the radio button for
"Advanced Installation Options". I believe that you'll even see a tip that
this is what you must choose for logical volume and file system changes.

Okay, it sound like you've already gotten this far...

I think the key to what you want is an item labeled "Additional
Configuration" or "Additional Options" or "Addtional SOMETHING" and it
appears in the lower right-hand corner of the screen when you're in the File
System tab. You should be able to make the necessary configuration changes
once you get into these "Additional" whatevertheyares.

Hope this helps.

Stew


"Jim Hollenback" <jholly@cup.hp.com> wrote in message
news:3f975258$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> Chris (lugbauer@gfscomputing.com) wrote:
> : I am trying to recover a system that was configured with two disks to
> : a system configured with one larger disk. the initial system did not
> : use LVM. I made a recovery system on the initial system and I am
> : trying to recover it to the new system with the one disk.
>
> : The interactive ignite-ux utility is telling me that the disk is too
> : big and I need to configure using LVM, but there is nowhere to do this
> : within the menus and it will not proceed until I do so.
>
> : Any suggestions?
>
> been a long time since I did this, but is there an advanced option?
> Usually in there you can play games with disks and the like. The
> docs should be over on docs.hp.com
> --
> Jim Hollenback
> jholly@cup.hp.com
> my opinion.

Hello,

can someone be more specific please. I had the same problem.

Original disk : HFS without LVM

I want to put my recovery tape back on another disk.

Problem :

Disk is to big to format as HFS (more than 2048 Mb). Indeed, there are
advanced options in which you can chose to make the disk VxFS with LVM, but
then the system tells me that it can't boot from VxFS because it needs a HFS
partition for the /stand to boot the kernel.

So, in either of the cases, I'm stuck. I need to create one HFS partition
for the /stand and VxFS partitions for the other partitions. But the
ignite-tool doesn't let me do this.

PS : I'm talking hp-ux 10.20 on a HP9000 workstation

Thanks,

Frederik


"Stew Weis" <stew@montanaace.com> wrote in message
news:jIanb.221$ss.5424@bcandid.telisphere.com...
> Jim,
>
> I believe I can help you.
>
> Once the system boot from the Recovery tape, interrupt so you can interact
> with Ignite. I don't remember the precise text of the prompts that you
will
> see, but hopefully I'll be close enough.
>
> Choose "Install HP-UX" and on the next screen, choose the radio button for
> "Advanced Installation Options". I believe that you'll even see a tip
that
> this is what you must choose for logical volume and file system changes.
>
> Okay, it sound like you've already gotten this far...
>
> I think the key to what you want is an item labeled "Additional
> Configuration" or "Additional Options" or "Addtional SOMETHING" and it
> appears in the lower right-hand corner of the screen when you're in the
File
> System tab. You should be able to make the necessary configuration
changes
> once you get into these "Additional" whatevertheyares.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Stew
>
>
> "Jim Hollenback" <jholly@cup.hp.com> wrote in message
> news:3f975258$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> > Chris (lugbauer@gfscomputing.com) wrote:
> > : I am trying to recover a system that was configured with two disks to
> > : a system configured with one larger disk. the initial system did not
> > : use LVM. I made a recovery system on the initial system and I am
> > : trying to recover it to the new system with the one disk.
> >
> > : The interactive ignite-ux utility is telling me that the disk is too
> > : big and I need to configure using LVM, but there is nowhere to do this
> > : within the menus and it will not proceed until I do so.
> >
> > : Any suggestions?
> >
> > been a long time since I did this, but is there an advanced option?
> > Usually in there you can play games with disks and the like. The
> > docs should be over on docs.hp.com
> > --
> > Jim Hollenback
> > jholly@cup.hp.com
> > my opinion.
>
>

"fred" <frederik.vanhee@perso.be> wrote in message news:<3f9fb39f$0$287$ba620e4c@reader1.news.skynet. be>...
> Hello,
>
> can someone be more specific please. I had the same problem.
>
> Original disk : HFS without LVM
>
> I want to put my recovery tape back on another disk.
>
> Problem :
>
> Disk is to big to format as HFS (more than 2048 Mb). Indeed, there are
> advanced options in which you can chose to make the disk VxFS with LVM, but
> then the system tells me that it can't boot from VxFS because it needs a HFS
> partition for the /stand to boot the kernel.
>
> So, in either of the cases, I'm stuck. I need to create one HFS partition
> for the /stand and VxFS partitions for the other partitions. But the
> ignite-tool doesn't let me do this.
>
> PS : I'm talking hp-ux 10.20 on a HP9000 workstation
>
> Thanks,
>
> Frederik
>
>
> "Stew Weis" <stew@montanaace.com> wrote in message
> news:jIanb.221$ss.5424@bcandid.telisphere.com...
> > Jim,
> >
> > I believe I can help you.
> >
> > Once the system boot from the Recovery tape, interrupt so you can interact
> > with Ignite. I don't remember the precise text of the prompts that you
> will
> > see, but hopefully I'll be close enough.
> >
> > Choose "Install HP-UX" and on the next screen, choose the radio button for
> > "Advanced Installation Options". I believe that you'll even see a tip
> that
> > this is what you must choose for logical volume and file system changes.
> >
> > Okay, it sound like you've already gotten this far...
> >
> > I think the key to what you want is an item labeled "Additional
> > Configuration" or "Additional Options" or "Addtional SOMETHING" and it
> > appears in the lower right-hand corner of the screen when you're in the
> File
> > System tab. You should be able to make the necessary configuration
> changes
> > once you get into these "Additional" whatevertheyares.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Stew
> >
> >
> > "Jim Hollenback" <jholly@cup.hp.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f975258$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> > > Chris (lugbauer@gfscomputing.com) wrote:
> > > : I am trying to recover a system that was configured with two disks to
> > > : a system configured with one larger disk. the initial system did not
> > > : use LVM. I made a recovery system on the initial system and I am
> > > : trying to recover it to the new system with the one disk.
>
> > > : The interactive ignite-ux utility is telling me that the disk is too
> > > : big and I need to configure using LVM, but there is nowhere to do this
> > > : within the menus and it will not proceed until I do so.
>
> > > : Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > been a long time since I did this, but is there an advanced option?
> > > Usually in there you can play games with disks and the like. The
> > > docs should be over on docs.hp.com
> > > --
> > > Jim Hollenback
> > > jholly@cup.hp.com
> > > my opinion.

So, you are on the right track. You need /stand to be hfs and
everything else can be vxfs. Ignite _does_ let you do this. Somewhere
(either the filesystem or LVM screen), you can select the /stand
filesystem type and you simply change it to hfs from vxfs.

Good luck,

Kevin

Kevin Collins <spamtotrash@toomuchfiction.com> wrote:
> "fred" <frederik.vanhee@perso.be> wrote in message news:<3f9fb39f$0$287$ba620e4c@reader1.news.skynet. be>...
>> Original disk : HFS without LVM
>>
>> I want to put my recovery tape back on another disk.
>>
>> Problem :
>>
>> Disk is to big to format as HFS (more than 2048 Mb). Indeed, there are
>> advanced options in which you can chose to make the disk VxFS with LVM, but
>> then the system tells me that it can't boot from VxFS because it needs a HFS
>> partition for the /stand to boot the kernel.
>>

> So, you are on the right track. You need /stand to be hfs and
> everything else can be vxfs. Ignite _does_ let you do this. Somewhere
> (either the filesystem or LVM screen), you can select the /stand
> filesystem type and you simply change it to hfs from vxfs.

Or you reduce the size of the new scsi-disk down to 2GB. You can change a
modepage inside of the disk to reduce the shown and used size down to any
number you need.

urle

--
Uli Betzler (urle) urle@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
Universitaet Karlsruhe, Rechenzentrum IRA/VERA/SR, Zirkel 2, 76128 Karlsruhe
phone: +49 721 608-4039 FAX: +49 721 608-9013 alternate FAX: +49 721 32550
urle = URL-Emanation = http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Ulrich.Betzler/urle.html

Hi,

that looks great !
do you have any idea how to do this (change the modepage to reduce the disk)
?

Thanks,

Frederik

"urle - Uli Betzler" <urle@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote in message
news:bnq3es$gtp$1@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de...
> Kevin Collins <spamtotrash@toomuchfiction.com> wrote:
> > "fred" <frederik.vanhee@perso.be> wrote in message
news:<3f9fb39f$0$287$ba620e4c@reader1.news.skynet. be>...
> >> Original disk : HFS without LVM
> >>
> >> I want to put my recovery tape back on another disk.
> >>
> >> Problem :
> >>
> >> Disk is to big to format as HFS (more than 2048 Mb). Indeed, there are
> >> advanced options in which you can chose to make the disk VxFS with LVM,
but
> >> then the system tells me that it can't boot from VxFS because it needs
a HFS
> >> partition for the /stand to boot the kernel.
> >>
>
> > So, you are on the right track. You need /stand to be hfs and
> > everything else can be vxfs. Ignite _does_ let you do this. Somewhere
> > (either the filesystem or LVM screen), you can select the /stand
> > filesystem type and you simply change it to hfs from vxfs.
>
> Or you reduce the size of the new scsi-disk down to 2GB. You can change a
> modepage inside of the disk to reduce the shown and used size down to any
> number you need.
>
> urle
>
> --
> Uli Betzler (urle)
urle@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
> Universitaet Karlsruhe, Rechenzentrum IRA/VERA/SR, Zirkel 2, 76128
Karlsruhe
> phone: +49 721 608-4039 FAX: +49 721 608-9013 alternate FAX: +49 721
32550
> urle = URL-Emanation =
http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Ulrich.Betzler/urle.html

Are you absolutely sure of this ?

You can do this (modify LVM options and change /stand to HFS) when you do an
install from an ignite server. But personally, I think the recovery tape
options are more restricted. I went through all the tabs and I didn't find
it, or maybe my ignite version is too old...

Frederik

"Kevin Collins" <spamtotrash@toomuchfiction.com> wrote in message
news:a6882f32.0310291541.99b6eeb@posting.google.co m...
> "fred" <frederik.vanhee@perso.be> wrote in message
news:<3f9fb39f$0$287$ba620e4c@reader1.news.skynet. be>...
> > Hello,
> >
> > can someone be more specific please. I had the same problem.
> >
> > Original disk : HFS without LVM
> >
> > I want to put my recovery tape back on another disk.
> >
> > Problem :
> >
> > Disk is to big to format as HFS (more than 2048 Mb). Indeed, there are
> > advanced options in which you can chose to make the disk VxFS with LVM,
but
> > then the system tells me that it can't boot from VxFS because it needs a
HFS
> > partition for the /stand to boot the kernel.
> >
> > So, in either of the cases, I'm stuck. I need to create one HFS
partition
> > for the /stand and VxFS partitions for the other partitions. But the
> > ignite-tool doesn't let me do this.
> >
> > PS : I'm talking hp-ux 10.20 on a HP9000 workstation
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Frederik
> >
> >
> > "Stew Weis" <stew@montanaace.com> wrote in message
> > news:jIanb.221$ss.5424@bcandid.telisphere.com...
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > I believe I can help you.
> > >
> > > Once the system boot from the Recovery tape, interrupt so you can
interact
> > > with Ignite. I don't remember the precise text of the prompts that
you
> > will
> > > see, but hopefully I'll be close enough.
> > >
> > > Choose "Install HP-UX" and on the next screen, choose the radio button
for
> > > "Advanced Installation Options". I believe that you'll even see a tip
> > that
> > > this is what you must choose for logical volume and file system
changes.
> > >
> > > Okay, it sound like you've already gotten this far...
> > >
> > > I think the key to what you want is an item labeled "Additional
> > > Configuration" or "Additional Options" or "Addtional SOMETHING" and it
> > > appears in the lower right-hand corner of the screen when you're in
the
> > File
> > > System tab. You should be able to make the necessary configuration
> > changes
> > > once you get into these "Additional" whatevertheyares.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Stew
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jim Hollenback" <jholly@cup.hp.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3f975258$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> > > > Chris (lugbauer@gfscomputing.com) wrote:
> > > > : I am trying to recover a system that was configured with two disks
to
> > > > : a system configured with one larger disk. the initial system did
not
> > > > : use LVM. I made a recovery system on the initial system and I am
> > > > : trying to recover it to the new system with the one disk.
> >
> > > > : The interactive ignite-ux utility is telling me that the disk is
too
> > > > : big and I need to configure using LVM, but there is nowhere to do
this
> > > > : within the menus and it will not proceed until I do so.
> >
> > > > : Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > been a long time since I did this, but is there an advanced option?
> > > > Usually in there you can play games with disks and the like. The
> > > > docs should be over on docs.hp.com
> > > > --
> > > > Jim Hollenback
> > > > jholly@cup.hp.com
> > > > my opinion.
>
> So, you are on the right track. You need /stand to be hfs and
> everything else can be vxfs. Ignite _does_ let you do this. Somewhere
> (either the filesystem or LVM screen), you can select the /stand
> filesystem type and you simply change it to hfs from vxfs.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Kevin

"fred" <frederik.vanhee@perso.be> wrote in message news:<3fa0b04d$0$270$ba620e4c@reader0.news.skynet. be>...
> Are you absolutely sure of this ?
>
> You can do this (modify LVM options and change /stand to HFS) when you do an
> install from an ignite server. But personally, I think the recovery tape
> options are more restricted. I went through all the tabs and I didn't find
> it, or maybe my ignite version is too old...
>
> Frederik
>
> "Kevin Collins" <spamtotrash@toomuchfiction.com> wrote in message
> news:a6882f32.0310291541.99b6eeb@posting.google.co m...
> > "fred" <frederik.vanhee@perso.be> wrote in message
> news:<3f9fb39f$0$287$ba620e4c@reader1.news.skynet. be>...
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > can someone be more specific please. I had the same problem.
> > >
> > > Original disk : HFS without LVM
> > >
> > > I want to put my recovery tape back on another disk.
> > >
> > > Problem :
> > >
> > > Disk is to big to format as HFS (more than 2048 Mb). Indeed, there are
> > > advanced options in which you can chose to make the disk VxFS with LVM,
> but
> > > then the system tells me that it can't boot from VxFS because it needs a
> HFS
> > > partition for the /stand to boot the kernel.
> > >
> > > So, in either of the cases, I'm stuck. I need to create one HFS
> partition
> > > for the /stand and VxFS partitions for the other partitions. But the
> > > ignite-tool doesn't let me do this.
> > >
> > > PS : I'm talking hp-ux 10.20 on a HP9000 workstation
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Frederik
> > >
> > >
> > > "Stew Weis" <stew@montanaace.com> wrote in message
> > > news:jIanb.221$ss.5424@bcandid.telisphere.com...
> > > > Jim,
> > > >
> > > > I believe I can help you.
> > > >
> > > > Once the system boot from the Recovery tape, interrupt so you can
> interact
> > > > with Ignite. I don't remember the precise text of the prompts that
> you
> will
> > > > see, but hopefully I'll be close enough.
> > > >
> > > > Choose "Install HP-UX" and on the next screen, choose the radio button
> for
> > > > "Advanced Installation Options". I believe that you'll even see a tip
> that
> > > > this is what you must choose for logical volume and file system
> changes.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, it sound like you've already gotten this far...
> > > >
> > > > I think the key to what you want is an item labeled "Additional
> > > > Configuration" or "Additional Options" or "Addtional SOMETHING" and it
> > > > appears in the lower right-hand corner of the screen when you're in
> the
> File
> > > > System tab. You should be able to make the necessary configuration
> changes
> > > > once you get into these "Additional" whatevertheyares.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Stew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jim Hollenback" <jholly@cup.hp.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3f975258$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> > > > > Chris (lugbauer@gfscomputing.com) wrote:
> > > > > : I am trying to recover a system that was configured with two disks
> to
> > > > > : a system configured with one larger disk. the initial system did
> not
> > > > > : use LVM. I made a recovery system on the initial system and I am
> > > > > : trying to recover it to the new system with the one disk.
>
> > > > > : The interactive ignite-ux utility is telling me that the disk is
> too
> > > > > : big and I need to configure using LVM, but there is nowhere to do
> this
> > > > > : within the menus and it will not proceed until I do so.
>
> > > > > : Any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > been a long time since I did this, but is there an advanced option?
> > > > > Usually in there you can play games with disks and the like. The
> > > > > docs should be over on docs.hp.com
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jim Hollenback
> > > > > jholly@cup.hp.com
> > > > > my opinion.
> >
> > So, you are on the right track. You need /stand to be hfs and
> > everything else can be vxfs. Ignite _does_ let you do this. Somewhere
> > (either the filesystem or LVM screen), you can select the /stand
> > filesystem type and you simply change it to hfs from vxfs.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Kevin


Yes - both Ignite from a server and make_recovery (make_tape_recovery,
make_net_recovery) use the same interface. If you can do it on one,
you should be able to do it on the other.

Kevin