Hi all,

I just got HP9000 server D3800/2
and alredy installed Gento PA Linux,
but I want to have HPUX11i.
It is possible to download some installation CD
only for home usage ?
I really do not understand HPUX licensing model?


Thx

Croatian

kalamper wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just got HP9000 server D3800/2
> and alredy installed Gento PA Linux,
> but I want to have HPUX11i.
> It is possible to download some installation CD
> only for home usage ?
> I really do not understand HPUX licensing model?
>
>
> Thx
>
> Croatian
>
Croation,


The License Agreement "forbits" HP-UX to be sold to the new owner
without a support contract to be transfered with it.

You should have a software support with HP to get an installation CD set.

Hint: try Ebay, most of the time people sell CD sets.


Best regards,


Jan Gerrit Kootstra

Jan Gerrit Kootstra <jan.gerrit@kootstra.org.uk> wrote:
> kalamper wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just got HP9000 server D3800/2
>> and alredy installed Gento PA Linux,
>> but I want to have HPUX11i.
>> It is possible to download some installation CD
>> only for home usage ?
>> I really do not understand HPUX licensing model?
>>
>>
>> Thx
>>
>> Croatian
>>
> Croation,
>
>
> The License Agreement "forbits" HP-UX to be sold to the new owner
> without a support contract to be transfered with it.
>
> You should have a software support with HP to get an installation CD set.
>
> Hint: try Ebay, most of the time people sell CD sets.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Jan Gerrit Kootstra

It is bad, but thx a lot

Well now I have to detect product name (:-

It can be these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Foundation-11...QQcmdZViewItem

kalamper wrote:
> Jan Gerrit Kootstra <jan.gerrit@kootstra.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>kalamper wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>I just got HP9000 server D3800/2
>>>and alredy installed Gento PA Linux,
>>>but I want to have HPUX11i.
>>>It is possible to download some installation CD
>>>only for home usage ?
>>>I really do not understand HPUX licensing model?
>>>
>>>
>>>Thx
>>>
>>>Croatian
>>>
>>
>>Croation,
>>
>>
>>The License Agreement "forbits" HP-UX to be sold to the new owner
>>without a support contract to be transfered with it.
>>
>>You should have a software support with HP to get an installation CD set.
>>
>>Hint: try Ebay, most of the time people sell CD sets.
>>
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>
>>Jan Gerrit Kootstra
>
>
> It is bad, but thx a lot
>
> Well now I have to detect product name (:-
>
> It can be these:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Foundation-11...QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
Croatian,


It looks very 'new'. I would ask the reseller first before bidding on
it. Seems to be 11iV2, I am not sure that it is supported for your server.


Best regards,


Jan Gerrit Kootstra

* Jan Gerrit Kootstra:

> The License Agreement "forbits" HP-UX to be sold to the new owner
> without a support contract to be transfered with it.

That's nonsense. The old licenses (IIRC HP-UX 10.20 and older) for these
old servers were bound to owner and machine, and it requires HP to do an
official license transfer. But it doesn't require an support contract.

HP-UX 11i is bound to the system alone and stays with the system, not
with the owner.

Benjamin

* Jan Gerrit Kootstra:

>> It can be these:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Foundation-11...QQcmdZViewItem
>
> It looks very 'new'. I would ask the reseller first before bidding on
> it. Seems to be 11iV2,

Nope, it doesn't. B.11.11 is 11i v1, and the manual on the picture
clearly says "HP-UX 11i version 1".

> I am not sure that it is supported for your server.

11i v2 is neither supported nor does it work on a D380.

Benjamin

Benjamin Gawert wrote:
> * Jan Gerrit Kootstra:
>
>>> It can be these:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Foundation-11...QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>
>>
>> It looks very 'new'. I would ask the reseller first before bidding on
>> it. Seems to be 11iV2,
>
>
> Nope, it doesn't. B.11.11 is 11i v1, and the manual on the picture
> clearly says "HP-UX 11i version 1".
>
>> I am not sure that it is supported for your server.
>
>
> 11i v2 is neither supported nor does it work on a D380.
>
> Benjamin
Benjamin,


Due to a slow connection I used earlier today I could check details.

I agree with you that this is a good choice for the orginal poster.


Best regards,


Jan Gerrit Kootstra

Benjamin Gawert wrote:
> * Jan Gerrit Kootstra:
>
>> The License Agreement "forbits" HP-UX to be sold to the new owner
>> without a support contract to be transfered with it.
>
>
> That's nonsense. The old licenses (IIRC HP-UX 10.20 and older) for these
> old servers were bound to owner and machine, and it requires HP to do an
> official license transfer. But it doesn't require an support contract.
>
> HP-UX 11i is bound to the system alone and stays with the system, not
> with the owner.
>
> Benjamin


Benjamin,


So I was misinformed.

I do not like the way you express yourself.

Thank you for the information.


Best regards,


Jan Gerrit Kootstra

Benjamin Gawert <bgawert@gmx.de> wrote:
> * Jan Gerrit Kootstra:
>
>> The License Agreement "forbits" HP-UX to be sold to the new owner
>> without a support contract to be transfered with it.
>
> That's nonsense. The old licenses (IIRC HP-UX 10.20 and older) for these
> old servers were bound to owner and machine, and it requires HP to do an
> official license transfer. But it doesn't require an support contract.
>
> HP-UX 11i is bound to the system alone and stays with the system, not
> with the owner.
>
> Benjamin

Now I am very confuse....

I got 3 machines (D380/2) with 2 RAID5 systems (HP SureStore E Disk Array 12H).
The whole system was (I suppose) in the cluster mode and
I am pretty sure it was installed HP-UX 11i (but again I am not sure)
Company has deleted all HDs and now I want to reuse this machine (only one).
Company does not exist anymore...
Any Idee how I can get installation CD except buying it!?

Thx

* kalamper:

> Now I am very confuse....

Not necessary. It is how I described it.

> I got 3 machines (D380/2) with 2 RAID5 systems (HP SureStore E Disk Array 12H).
> The whole system was (I suppose) in the cluster mode and
> I am pretty sure it was installed HP-UX 11i (but again I am not sure)

You should make sure that it was 11i. You should ask the seller, or you
can try to call HP and give them the serial number, maybe they still
have the systems in their database (which due to the age of these
machines is unlikely, though).

> Company has deleted all HDs and now I want to reuse this machine (only one).
> Company does not exist anymore...
> Any Idee how I can get installation CD except buying it!?

Ebay. Just make sure you get 11i v1 (B.11.11) and not any higher
release. It's not 100% legal but if you don't use the server
commercially (i.e. to run a business on it or to use it to make money)
then there should be no problem. HP usually doesn't care about what
hobbyists do with their old systems.

Benjamin