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Old 01-17-2008, 07:02 PM
chris
 
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Default basic commands missing in Woody Debian

Hi, have just had to start my whole debian installation again because
LILO got corrupted

Now, upon doing a base network install, I find that simple commands such
as 'whois', 'traceroute', 'host' and 'dig' are missing! I have to do an
apt-get install <whois/host etc> for the commands to work!

Can someone please tell me what i've done wrong, and what is the package
called I need to install that will bring back all my basic commands!
Many thanks.
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:02 PM
Michael Black
 
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chris (see@reply.to.field) writes:
> Hi, have just had to start my whole debian installation again because
> LILO got corrupted
>
> Now, upon doing a base network install, I find that simple commands such
> as 'whois', 'traceroute', 'host' and 'dig' are missing! I have to do an
> apt-get install <whois/host etc> for the commands to work!
>
> Can someone please tell me what i've done wrong, and what is the package
> called I need to install that will bring back all my basic commands!
> Many thanks.


I'm no expert since I've only done installs a handfull of times, but
I suspect you went wrong in assuming you needed to reinstall merely
because LILO became corrupted. If it's not booting at that point,
you slip a boot disk into the computer, and let that boot. Then you
have a working Linux, and you can fix the LILO issue.

Michael

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Old 01-17-2008, 07:02 PM
Andreas Janssen
 
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Default Re: basic commands missing in Woody Debian

Hello

chris (<see@reply.to.field>) wrote:

> Hi, have just had to start my whole debian installation again because
> LILO got corrupted


No need to reinstall - you can boot the system on the hard disk from CD
and reinstall lilo.

> Now, upon doing a base network install, I find that simple commands
> such as 'whois', 'traceroute', 'host' and 'dig' are missing! I have
> to do an apt-get install <whois/host etc> for the commands to work!
>
> Can someone please tell me what i've done wrong, and what is the
> package called I need to install that will bring back all my basic
> commands! Many thanks.


You didn't do anything wrong. The commands (or the packages that contain
the commands) are simply not part of the base system. Some of them have
their own package (whois, host, traceroute), so there is not a way to
install them all at once as far as I know. However you should be able
to find most of them by searching the net section of the packages, e.g.
using aptitude or synaptic. Maybe there is also a task installable via
tasksel that installs these packages.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Old 01-17-2008, 07:02 PM
Andy Fraser
 
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In comp.os.linux.setup, chris uttered these immortal words:

> Hi, have just had to start my whole debian installation again because
> LILO got corrupted
>
> Now, upon doing a base network install, I find that simple commands such
> as 'whois', 'traceroute', 'host' and 'dig' are missing! I have to do an
> apt-get install <whois/host etc> for the commands to work!
>
> Can someone please tell me what i've done wrong, and what is the package
> called I need to install that will bring back all my basic commands!
> Many thanks.


You didn't do anything wrong. Those commands just aren't part of the base
install. They're not essential to boot and run the basic system although
some people will say other commands that *are* installed aren't needed
either. If you want those commands you have to install them as you need
them.

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Old 01-17-2008, 07:03 PM
John Hasler
 
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Michael Black writes:
> Now, upon doing a base network install, I find that simple commands such
> as 'whois', 'traceroute', 'host' and 'dig' are missing! I have to do an
> apt-get install <whois/host etc> for the commands to work!


> Can someone please tell me what i've done wrong


You've assumed that the base system includes anything not needed for the
installation of the rest of the system.

Run tasksel and select an appropriate task.
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Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:03 PM
P.T. Breuer
 
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chris <see@reply.to.field> wrote:
> Hi, have just had to start my whole debian installation again because
> LILO got corrupted


NO you didn't. You had to run "/sbin/lilo".

Or if you couldn't manage that, reinstall lilo. Nothing else!

> Now, upon doing a base network install, I find that simple commands such
> as 'whois', 'traceroute', 'host' and 'dig' are missing! I have to do an


Then install them ..

> apt-get install <whois/host etc> for the commands to work!


Fine.

> Can someone please tell me what i've done wrong, and what is the package


Nothing. All is right.

> called I need to install that will bring back all my basic commands!


There is no such "package". Install whatever you want. "host" is not a
particularly basic command, nor is whois, traceroute, and so on.
Some of these come from bind and host. They're all network commands.
Look for a networking "task" to install.

Peter
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:03 PM
chris
 
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On 15 May 2004 23:17:41 GMT and in article <c868el$1iq$1
@freenet9.carleton.ca>, Michael Black said...
: chris (see@reply.to.field) writes:
: > Hi, have just had to start my whole debian installation again because
: > LILO got corrupted
: >
: > Now, upon doing a base network install, I find that simple commands such
: > as 'whois', 'traceroute', 'host' and 'dig' are missing! I have to do an
: > apt-get install <whois/host etc> for the commands to work!
: >
: > Can someone please tell me what i've done wrong, and what is the package
: > called I need to install that will bring back all my basic commands!
: > Many thanks.
:
: I'm no expert since I've only done installs a handfull of times, but
: I suspect you went wrong in assuming you needed to reinstall merely
: because LILO became corrupted. If it's not booting at that point,
: you slip a boot disk into the computer, and let that boot. Then you
: have a working Linux, and you can fix the LILO issue.

I did not know this at the time, plus I was pushed for time to get back
to university

Thanks,

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Old 01-17-2008, 07:03 PM
chris
 
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On Sat, 15 May 2004 18:58:56 -0500 and in article
<87sme15jjz.fsf@toncho.dhh.gt.org>, John Hasler said...
: Michael Black writes:
: > Now, upon doing a base network install, I find that simple commands such
: > as 'whois', 'traceroute', 'host' and 'dig' are missing! I have to do an
: > apt-get install <whois/host etc> for the commands to work!
:
: > Can someone please tell me what i've done wrong
:
: You've assumed that the base system includes anything not needed for the
: installation of the rest of the system.
:
: Run tasksel and select an appropriate task.

Doing so now...

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Old 01-17-2008, 07:03 PM
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Hola chris <see@reply.to.field>
el Sat, 15 May 2004 22:55:00 +0100 escribiste:

> Hi, have just had to start my whole debian installation again because
> LILO got corrupted
>
> Now, upon doing a base network install, I find that simple commands
> such as 'whois', 'traceroute', 'host' and 'dig' are missing! I have
> to do an apt-get install <whois/host etc> for the commands to work!
>
> Can someone please tell me what i've done wrong, and what is the
> package called I need to install that will bring back all my basic
> commands! Many thanks.


dselect by default will install all the important (or standard, i don't
remember) packages

so just enter dselect, go to select, touch something, exit, then run
apt-get dselect-upgrade (or run install inside dselect) and you will get
a good starting point

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