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I have an XP machine that I want to set up for
dual booting. I have done this several times
in the past on Win 95 and Win 98 machines using
fips and lilo.

Is there any changes with the XP machine?

Also what is the best method to repartition the HD,
fip, parted or something else?

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:58:20 GMT, tom <wolfemet@ameritech.net> wrote:
> I have an XP machine that I want to set up for
> dual booting. I have done this several times
> in the past on Win 95 and Win 98 machines using
> fips and lilo.
>
> Is there any changes with the XP machine?
>
> Also what is the best method to repartition the HD,
> fip, parted or something else?

I used what I think was a Mandrake 9.2 based rescue CD to repartition my
200g drive (ntfsresize and fdisk).

One thing you have to be cautious about with recent Linux versions (or
64-bit XP Pro beta) is that they may ignore existing partition table
geometry and use their own, which might make Windows inaccessible. So you
may want to configure your partitions like you want them with fdisk. And
make sure you record partition table data from fdisk before installing
Linux (or 64-bit XP Pro beta). When 64-bit XP changed my heads from 240
to 255 it could not even reboot itself until fixed with Linux fdisk from
the rescue CD. So I noticed the odd cyl. numbers when installing 64-bit
SuSE 9.1 and avoided repeating the problem.

I put GRUB on my Linux partition (instead of the MBR) and marked that as
the boot partition, so I do not have to worry about Windows tampering with
the MBR. GRUB boots first, and if Windows is selected, ntldr on a Win
partition can select 64-bit XP Pro or XP Home.

PS: I was Windows free except for my Win98se/Linux laptop until I got this
new PC. But I needed to be familiar with XP for work.

tom wrote:
> I have an XP machine that I want to set up for
> dual booting. I have done this several times
> in the past on Win 95 and Win 98 machines using
> fips and lilo.
>
> Is there any changes with the XP machine?
>
> Also what is the best method to repartition the HD,
> fip, parted or something else?
>
>
I had the same situation as you, and I stupidly put the boot loader in
MBR. Now my windows xp partition cannot boot any more.
My configuration: 60GB HD, 30->WinXP, 30->SuSE9.1

I tried using the windows xp rescue console to fix the boot sector, mbr,
and boot.ini, however the system still says operating system error when
boots.

I think I might just abandon windows all together if i can get my xitel
usb sound card working on suse.

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:43:02 -0700, Jason Zheng wrote:

> I had the same situation as you, and I stupidly put the boot loader in
> MBR. Now my windows xp partition cannot boot any more.
> My configuration: 60GB HD, 30->WinXP, 30->SuSE9.1
>
> I tried using the windows xp rescue console to fix the boot sector, mbr,
> and boot.ini, however the system still says operating system error when
> boots.

Fix your /etc/lilo.conf, then execute /sbin/lilo.

[root]# cat /etc/lilo.conf
append="hdc=ide-scsi"
boot = /dev/sda
message = /boot/boot_message.txt
prompt
timeout = 1200
change-rules
reset
vga = normal

image = /boot/vmlinuz
root = /dev/sda5
label = Linux
read-only

other = /dev/sda1
label = Windows
table = /dev/sda

tom wrote:

> I have an XP machine that I want to set up for
> dual booting. I have done this several times
> in the past on Win 95 and Win 98 machines using
> fips and lilo.
>
> Is there any changes with the XP machine?
>
> Also what is the best method to repartition the HD,
> fip, parted or something else?

I usually now go the LiveCD route - boot up on liveCD
and then you have OS to do anything to hard disk - like Mepis for
installing grub using the Mepis system center
or use Knoppix and its lilo utility.

QtParted in Knoppix works very well for hard disks,
including shrinking partitions - but careful that the
windope partition doesn't have any errors before it is shrunk.

Dave Uhring wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:43:02 -0700, Jason Zheng wrote:
>
>
>>I had the same situation as you, and I stupidly put the boot loader in
>>MBR. Now my windows xp partition cannot boot any more.
>>My configuration: 60GB HD, 30->WinXP, 30->SuSE9.1
>>
>>I tried using the windows xp rescue console to fix the boot sector, mbr,
>>and boot.ini, however the system still says operating system error when
>>boots.
>
>
> Fix your /etc/lilo.conf, then execute /sbin/lilo.
>
> [root]# cat /etc/lilo.conf
> append="hdc=ide-scsi"
> boot = /dev/sda
> message = /boot/boot_message.txt
> prompt
> timeout = 1200
> change-rules
> reset
> vga = normal
>
> image = /boot/vmlinuz
> root = /dev/sda5
> label = Linux
> read-only
>
> other = /dev/sda1
> label = Windows
> table = /dev/sda
>
I'm using grub, it correctly shows the windows boot option. The problem
is that when you choose to boot windows, windows complains operating error.

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:46:17 -0700, Jason Zheng wrote:

> Dave Uhring wrote:

>> Fix your /etc/lilo.conf, then execute /sbin/lilo.

> I'm using grub, it correctly shows the windows boot option. The problem
> is that when you choose to boot windows, windows complains operating error.

Then quit using grub. Do what I suggested. The partitions in your
lilo.conf will have to be modified to match *your* system configuration.

Dave Uhring wrote:

> On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:46:17 -0700, Jason Zheng wrote:
>
>> Dave Uhring wrote:
>
>>> Fix your /etc/lilo.conf, then execute /sbin/lilo.
>
>> I'm using grub, it correctly shows the windows boot option. The problem
>> is that when you choose to boot windows, windows complains operating
>> error.
>
> Then quit using grub.

Please do not offer this advice. LILO is being phased out for some very good
reasons. Grub has many advantages over LILO, such that it is scarcely
possible to imagine a situation in which LILO is to be preferred.

Grub can certainly launch a Windows installation, with very little
difficulty. It also is very easy to install on an existing HDD.

Example Grub launch commands (typically in /boot/grub/grub.conf) for a
Windows/Linux dual boot:

title Fedora Core
root (hd1,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi rhgb
initrd /initrd-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl.img

title Windows 2000
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

--
Paul Lutus
http://www.arachnoid.com

Jason Zheng <jzheng@jpl.nasa.gov> said:
>tom wrote:
>> I have an XP machine that I want to set up for
>> dual booting. I have done this several times
>> in the past on Win 95 and Win 98 machines using
>> fips and lilo.
>>
>> Is there any changes with the XP machine?
>>
>> Also what is the best method to repartition the HD,
>> fip, parted or something else?
>>
>>
>I had the same situation as you, and I stupidly put the boot loader in
>MBR. Now my windows xp partition cannot boot any more.
>My configuration: 60GB HD, 30->WinXP, 30->SuSE9.1

Hmm, strange. I just installed WXP on a disk, reserving some room for
Linux, and then proceeded to install SuSE 9.1 on the remaining space,
accepting SuSE defaults for partitioning and boot setup. Ended up with
grub boot menu that lets me boot Windows or Linux (and then the regular
extra choices of failsafe boot and memtest). No problems whatsoever.
Disk is regular IDE (though hung off of a HPT370 controller, but not
in any RAID mode, just a regular single disk).
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Juha Laiho wrote:
> Jason Zheng <jzheng@jpl.nasa.gov> said:
>
>>tom wrote:
>>
>>>I have an XP machine that I want to set up for
>>>dual booting. I have done this several times
>>>in the past on Win 95 and Win 98 machines using
>>>fips and lilo.
>>>
>>>Is there any changes with the XP machine?
>>>
>>>Also what is the best method to repartition the HD,
>>>fip, parted or something else?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I had the same situation as you, and I stupidly put the boot loader in
>>MBR. Now my windows xp partition cannot boot any more.
>>My configuration: 60GB HD, 30->WinXP, 30->SuSE9.1
>
>
> Hmm, strange. I just installed WXP on a disk, reserving some room for
> Linux, and then proceeded to install SuSE 9.1 on the remaining space,
> accepting SuSE defaults for partitioning and boot setup. Ended up with
> grub boot menu that lets me boot Windows or Linux (and then the regular
> extra choices of failsafe boot and memtest). No problems whatsoever.
> Disk is regular IDE (though hung off of a HPT370 controller, but not
> in any RAID mode, just a regular single disk).
Where did you install your bootloader? Was there an option?