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Old 01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
John Slimick
 
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Default Fedora 3 via Sam's

I have been playing with the Publisher's Edition
of Fedora 3 that accompanies Sam's
"Red Hat Linux Fedora 3." It installs
well, but when I make postfix, there are
complaints about the missing header files:

limits.h
ctype.h
time.h
features.h
sys/types.h

and twelve others. stdio.h doesn't seem to be
where it should be.

I checked the book, but there was no mention of
header files anywhere.

These header files are missing from both the CD and
DVD versions.

Is this a case of a not-quite-complete publisher's
version or is this a "feature" of Fedora 3?

john slimick
slimick@pitt.edu

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Old 01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
Jonathan A.
 
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Default Re: Fedora 3 via Sam's

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 18:31:57 +0000 (UTC), John Slimick
<slimick@localhost.localdomain> appears to have said:

> I have been playing with the Publisher's Edition
> of Fedora 3 that accompanies Sam's
> "Red Hat Linux Fedora 3." It installs
> well, but when I make postfix, there are
> complaints about the missing header files:
>
> limits.h
> ctype.h
> time.h
> features.h
> sys/types.h
>
> and twelve others. stdio.h doesn't seem to be
> where it should be.


I'm not a RedHat/Fedora user, but as I understand it they tend to
split libraries into runtime and "development" packages. Those are a
few of the standard glibc headers.

Does your CD have a package called glibc-devel or something like that?
That's where those headers would be, I believe.

HTH,
Jonathan

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Old 01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
Bill Davidsen
 
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Default Re: Fedora 3 via Sam's

Jonathan A. wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 18:31:57 +0000 (UTC), John Slimick
> <slimick@localhost.localdomain> appears to have said:
>
>
>>I have been playing with the Publisher's Edition
>>of Fedora 3 that accompanies Sam's
>>"Red Hat Linux Fedora 3." It installs
>>well, but when I make postfix, there are
>>complaints about the missing header files:
>>
>> limits.h
>> ctype.h
>> time.h
>> features.h
>> sys/types.h
>>
>>and twelve others. stdio.h doesn't seem to be
>>where it should be.

>
>
> I'm not a RedHat/Fedora user, but as I understand it they tend to
> split libraries into runtime and "development" packages. Those are a
> few of the standard glibc headers.
>
> Does your CD have a package called glibc-devel or something like that?
> That's where those headers would be, I believe.


Probably right, although I would really expect them to be installed
along with the C compiler. By any chance is that not installed, and the
warnings are coming out of 'make' while it tried to resolve dependencies?

Do the warnings say "make:" or "gcc:" there?

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Old 01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
John Reiser
 
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>> Does your CD have a package called glibc-devel or something like that?
>> That's where those headers would be, I believe.


> Probably right, although I would really expect them to be installed
> along with the C compiler. By any chance is that not installed, and the
> warnings are coming out of 'make' while it tried to resolve dependencies?


There is more than one implementation of stdio, and it is entirely
reasonable that sizeof(struct FILE) depends on the implementation
[glibc, uClibc, dietlibc, ...]

$ rpm -qf /usr/include/stdio.h
glibc-headers-2.3.5-10
$

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Old 01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
John Slimick
 
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Default Re: Fedora 3 via Sam's

Thanks for the speedy replies. More information:

(1) The messages about the missing header files come
from gcc.

(2) The gcc command that invoked these was:

gcc -W missing -W format -g -O -I. -DLINUX2 -c alldig.c

The source is in the util directory of the src
directory in the expanded postfix package.

(3) Using "locate" the only appearance of stdio.h
is in /usr/share/split/lib/stdio.h

(4) Again, using "locate" there are two appearances of
limits.h:

/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.3.4/include/limits.h
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.4.2/include/limits.h

(5) There is no "glibc-devel" pacakage anywhere.

I have install RH versions from 2.1 through 9.0 and never
had missing header files.

I am grateful for any/all suggestions

john slimick
slimick@pitt.edu
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
Markku Kolkka
 
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Default Re: Fedora 3 via Sam's

John Slimick wrote:
> Is this a case of a not-quite-complete publisher's
> version or is this a "feature" of Fedora 3?


It's because of the stripped-down "publisher's edition". Full Fedora
Core 3 distribution includes all headers and libraries needed for
software development (if you choose to install them).

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Old 01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
Nico Kadel-Garcia
 
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"John Slimick" <slimick@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:slrndf4nou.odd.slimick@localhost.localdomain. ..
>I have been playing with the Publisher's Edition
> of Fedora 3 that accompanies Sam's
> "Red Hat Linux Fedora 3." It installs
> well, but when I make postfix, there are
> complaints about the missing header files:
>
> limits.h
> ctype.h
> time.h
> features.h
> sys/types.h
>
> and twelve others. stdio.h doesn't seem to be
> where it should be.
>
> I checked the book, but there was no mention of
> header files anywhere.
>
> These header files are missing from both the CD and
> DVD versions.
>
> Is this a case of a not-quite-complete publisher's
> version or is this a "feature" of Fedora 3?


Are you building postfix from SRPM? If not, then try it: it should give you
a list of any missing packages you need to do such compilations.


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Old 01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
John Slimick
 
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Default Re: Fedora 3 via Sam's

Final determination:

I rebuilt the system today and installed
ALL of the software on the CD's. The missing header
files were not there. So it seems to be a problem
between Redhat and Sam's.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

john slimick
slimick@pitt.edu

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> "John Slimick" <slimick@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
> news:slrndf4nou.odd.slimick@localhost.localdomain. ..
>>I have been playing with the Publisher's Edition
>> of Fedora 3 that accompanies Sam's
>> "Red Hat Linux Fedora 3." It installs
>> well, but when I make postfix, there are
>> complaints about the missing header files:
>>
>> limits.h
>> ctype.h
>> time.h
>> features.h
>> sys/types.h
>>
>> and twelve others. stdio.h doesn't seem to be
>> where it should be.
>>
>> I checked the book, but there was no mention of
>> header files anywhere.
>>
>> These header files are missing from both the CD and
>> DVD versions.
>>
>> Is this a case of a not-quite-complete publisher's
>> version or is this a "feature" of Fedora 3?

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