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I have just set up Fedora and when I try to setup an Internet connection I
get "modem not detected message".

I have tried a Rockwell Conexant PCI and an Aztech external modem - both
work on other computers.

Is there any equivalent to Windows "Add New Hardware" Wizard?? If not what
do I do to get the system to recognise a modem?

Thanks for any help

Alan

In the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
<Xns96EAA19E5BD01416c616e@211.29.133.50>, Alan Brown wrote:

>I have just set up Fedora and when I try to setup an Internet connection I
>get "modem not detected message".

Sounds like some windoze wannabe tool

>I have tried a Rockwell Conexant PCI and an Aztech external modem - both
>work on other computers.

'Rockwell Conexant' is a chipset manufacturer - and there are dozens of
chipsets and thousands of modems using those chip sets. The
Conexant+Rockwell-modem-HOWTO will help identify the modem/chipset. Some
work as is - some need drivers, others are brain dead. As far as the
Aztech, if it's an RS-232 (as opposed to USB), it should work with no
problems. See that your kernel is finding the serial ports at boot time
(look at the boot messages in /var/log/messages).

>Is there any equivalent to Windows "Add New Hardware" Wizard??

I stopped using windoze in 1992, but Red Hat includes something called
"kudzu" which attempts to handle this. It may or may not work. A lot
depends on your BIOS being correct.

>If not what do I do to get the system to recognise a modem?

-rw-rw-r-- 1 gferg ldp 338050 Jun 17 09:53 Modem-HOWTO

Old guy

"Moe Trin" <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld> wrote in message
news:slrndkj3m7.5h.ibuprofin@compton.phx.az.us...

>>Is there any equivalent to Windows "Add New Hardware" Wizard??
>
> I stopped using windoze in 1992, but Red Hat includes something called
> "kudzu" which attempts to handle this. It may or may not work. A lot
> depends on your BIOS being correct.

There's also a wonderful set of modem configuration tools as part of
HylaFAX, at www.hylafax.org. They're very well documented and very useful
for setting up types of modems not even mentioned in other Linux
configuration toolkits. (I wrote the SunOS port years ago, along with
submitting a couple of the modem configuration pages.)

ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin) wrote in
news:slrndkj3m7.5h.ibuprofin@compton.phx.az.us:

> In the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
> <Xns96EAA19E5BD01416c616e@211.29.133.50>, Alan Brown wrote:
>
>>I have just set up Fedora and when I try to setup an Internet
>>connection I get "modem not detected message".
>

Does the message "modem not detected" mean that the hardware has not been
detected or that Linux sees the hardware but does not have a driver??

> Sounds like some windoze wannabe tool

??


>
>>I have tried a Rockwell Conexant PCI and an Aztech external modem -
>>both work on other computers.
>
> 'Rockwell Conexant' is a chipset manufacturer - and there are dozens
> of chipsets and thousands of modems using those chip sets. The
> Conexant+Rockwell-modem-HOWTO will help identify the modem/chipset.
> Some work as is - some need drivers, others are brain dead. As far
> as the Aztech, if it's an RS-232 (as opposed to USB), it should work
> with no problems. See that your kernel is finding the serial ports at
> boot time (look at the boot messages in /var/log/messages).
>

The internal modem is a D-Link DFM-560I+ - I have checked D-Link and there
are no drivers for Linux.

The Aztech modem is RS-232 and I can't find any Linux drivers for that
either.

>>Is there any equivalent to Windows "Add New Hardware" Wizard??
>
> I stopped using windoze in 1992, but Red Hat includes something called
> "kudzu" which attempts to handle this. It may or may not work. A lot
> depends on your BIOS being correct.

I will try using kudzu - thanks

>
>>If not what do I do to get the system to recognise a modem?
>
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 gferg ldp 338050 Jun 17 09:53 Modem-HOWTO
>
> Old guy
>

Thanks for your reply - as you can tell I am complete newbie at Linux and
any help is much appreciated

Alan

In the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
<Xns96EBBBC27E169416c616e@211.29.133.50>, Alan Brown wrote:

> ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin) wrote
>> Alan Brown wrote:

>>> I have just set up Fedora and when I try to setup an Internet
>>> connection I get "modem not detected message".

>Does the message "modem not detected" mean that the hardware has not been
>detected or that Linux sees the hardware but does not have a driver??

It means that the application you are using attempted by some means to
test that it could speak to a modem - the test failed. This probably
meant the application tried to send a Hayes command to /dev/modem (if it
existed), and /dev/ttyS0 through /dev/ttyS3, and didn't get a response.
There are many possible reasons.

>> Sounds like some windoze wannabe tool
>
>??

A dialup connection uses the pppd application. If you look at the man
page for pppd, it's a little on the intimidating side, because it offers
a lot of features not normally used. Over the years, a number of authors
and distributions have tried to come up with a simple helper tool to make
setting up pppd easier. Invariably, they try to mimic some aspects of
windoze, and just as invariable screw things up by using some bizarre
modem init string, and desperately searching for a Unix style login prompt
from the ISP. When microsoft invented the telephone (or whatever they did)
they realized that a login prompt was asking a lot of the skill of their
users, and so adopted a non-text mode of operation - that had only been
available since 1992. They then forced every ISP in the world to support
this mode. See the paper at http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
or http://www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html for help in creating
a dumb script to run pppd directly.

>The internal modem is a D-Link DFM-560I+

OK - that seems to be a bit old - a quick google search suggests it a
Conexant HCF winmodem. Start with the Conexant+Rockwell-modem-HOWTO and
follow up with the Modem-HOWTO.

48060 Mar 13 2002 Conexant+Rockwell-modem-HOWTO
338050 Jun 17 09:53 Modem-HOWTO

If it is indeed an HCF (see that first HOWTO for instructions on identifying
the PCI vendor and device ID numbers), there are _some_ drivers available.
Note that these drivers are specific to the modem chipset and more
importantly, the distribution and kernel you are using. 'uname -a' will
tell you which kernel you are using.

By the way - google is a very valuable asset. Answers are available in
seconds - compared to hours to days (to months) on Usenet.

>The Aztech modem is RS-232 and I can't find any Linux drivers for that
>either.

That's because it doesn't need an extra driver. Within the kernel, there
is a serial driver which you will see mentioned in the boot log entries in
/var/log/messages - something like

Aug 21 16:23:27 Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS
SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
Aug 21 16:23:27 ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Aug 21 16:23:27 ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A

which shows the on-board serial ports on this old system. This is the
same as the old "COM 1" and "COM 2" originally found in the IBM PC from
1981. "Drivers" are extra chunks of software that sit between the
kernel and the hardware. Most O/S have generic drivers that talk to
standard hardware (like RS-232 ports), as well as manufacturer specific
stuff like network, sound, and video cards. Some drivers are quite
simple - others are not. Microsoft has blurred this, by calling all
kinds of stuff "drivers". The windoze "driver" for that Aztech is two
items - a small file with the manufacturer supplied init string (AT&F0
is all you need), and a cute bitmap of an icon (which does nothing
other than personalize the desktop).

>Thanks for your reply - as you can tell I am complete newbie at Linux and
>any help is much appreciated

Don't worry about it - we all had to start at one time or another. Do try
to familiarize yourself with the huge amount of documentation that is
available. Don't try to read all the HOWTOs (there are over 480), but at
least look at the index so you know what's out there:

282323 Oct 7 16:47 HOWTO-INDEX
102607 Oct 7 16:47 INDEX

There's also a large number of books available for download (if they were
not included in your installation) from the Linux Documentation Project at
http://tldp.org/guides.html

Old guy

ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin) wrote in
news:slrndklhlj.73j.ibuprofin@compton.phx.az.us:

> In the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
> <Xns96EBBBC27E169416c616e@211.29.133.50>, Alan Brown wrote:
>
>> ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin) wrote
>>> Alan Brown wrote:
>
>>>> I have just set up Fedora and when I try to setup an Internet
>>>> connection I get "modem not detected message".

.....snip...


>
> There's also a large number of books available for download (if they
> were not included in your installation) from the Linux Documentation
> Project at http://tldp.org/guides.html
>
> Old guy
>

Once again many thanks for your help

Alan (another 'old guy' )