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Old 01-18-2008, 05:31 AM
Mattia
 
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Default Fedora2 and WinXP installation problem (not the XP corruption problem)

Hello,
I've a 160gb hd , that I want to configure this way:
70gb for WinXp, 70gb 2nd ntfs partition, 20gb linux Fedora2

I tried to install Fedora2 alone, it works.
Then I formatted and installed WinXp alone, and it works.
Now I tried in every way to install Fedora2: automatic and manual
installation, grub in mbr or same partition of fedora (using Acronis
OSSelector as boot manager), force LBA32 and not, using 25 or the
whole space left, I really tried almost every combination.

But at the end, when I start linux (with grub or another boot
manager), I only get:

grub>

and Fedora doesn't load.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:31 AM
mjt
 
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Mattia wrote:

> But at the end, when I start linux (with grub or another boot
> manager), I only get:
>
> grub>
>
> and Fedora doesn't load.


.... can you use fedora CD and "boot installed system"?
while in the Live CD, show us the output of:
[shell] fdisk -l /dev/hda

and whichever partition has /boot:
[shell] cat /boot/grub/menu.lst

and whichever partition has /:
[shell] cat /etc/fstab

for comparison, might try: http://www.mepis.org/
get the Live CD - it is easily installed to the
hard drive from a Live session; click the "download"
link and get "SimplyMEPIS-2004.04.iso" from one
of the mirrors
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:31 AM
Stephen J. Rush
 
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Default Re: Fedora2 and WinXP installation problem (not the XP corruption problem)

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:00:28 +0100, Mattia wrote:

> Hello,
> I've a 160gb hd , that I want to configure this way:
> 70gb for WinXp, 70gb 2nd ntfs partition, 20gb linux Fedora2
>
> I tried to install Fedora2 alone, it works.
> Then I formatted and installed WinXp alone, and it works.
> Now I tried in every way to install Fedora2: automatic and manual
> installation, grub in mbr or same partition of fedora (using Acronis
> OSSelector as boot manager), force LBA32 and not, using 25 or the
> whole space left, I really tried almost every combination.
>
> But at the end, when I start linux (with grub or another boot
> manager), I only get:
>
> grub>
>
> and Fedora doesn't load.
>
> What am I doing wrong?


I had Windows XP on this laptop, so I used Partition Magic 8 to shrink the
NTFS partition and had Anaconda create the Linux partitions in the freed
space. I've read that Windows assumes that it will get the whole disk,
and will mess up any OS installed before it.

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:31 AM
Jean-David Beyer
 
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Stephen J. Rush wrote:

> I had Windows XP on this laptop, so I used Partition Magic 8 to shrink the
> NTFS partition and had Anaconda create the Linux partitions in the freed
> space. I've read that Windows assumes that it will get the whole disk,
> and will mess up any OS installed before it.
>

I hear a lot of things, too, not all true.

I am not a big fan of Windows, but I had to install XP on a machine mostly
used for something else and running Linux most of the time. I boot up XP
once in a while.

I am not sure what the Windows XP installer would do when presented with
totally blank disks fresh out of the box from the manufacturer. What I did
was to use tomsrbt, which I have on a CD-ROM, but it will still fit on a
floppy, and used _fdisk_ to format the 80 G /dev/hda drive with 4
partitions. I also formatted the /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.

/dev/hda had a partition table at that point like this:

/dev/hda1 24G ntfs
/dev/hda2 4G vfat
/dev/hda3 100M ext2
/dev/hda4 rest W95 Ext'd LBA (code f)

I then installed XP and it took hda1 and hda2 and left the rest alone.
I then installed Fedora Core 2 and formatted the rest of hda, and sda and
sdb with the disk druid.

(Later I removed Fedora and installed Red Hat Linux 9, for reasons posted
somewhere else on this newsgroup, but that is another story.)

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:32 AM
Mattia
 
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Hello,
thanks for your help, this is the list:

>[shell] cat /boot/grub/menu.lst


# boot=/dev/hda3
default=0
timeout=10
splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.358)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358 ro root=LABEL=/
initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.358.img
title Other
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

>[shell] fdisk -l /dev/hda


Disk 163.9GB

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 8286 66557263+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2 11614 19929 66798270 f W95 Ext'd
(LBa)
/dev/hda3 * 8287 8299 104422+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda4 8300 11613 26619705 83 Linux
/dev/hda5 11744 11745 16033+ 1 Fat12

>[shell] cat /etc/fstab


LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /sys sysfs defaults 0 0

thanks,
Mattia




wrote:

>Mattia wrote:
>
>> But at the end, when I start linux (with grub or another boot
>> manager), I only get:
>>
>> grub>
>>
>> and Fedora doesn't load.

>
>... can you use fedora CD and "boot installed system"?
>while in the Live CD, show us the output of:
>[shell] fdisk -l /dev/hda
>
>and whichever partition has /boot:
>[shell] cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
>
>and whichever partition has /:
>[shell] cat /etc/fstab
>
>for comparison, might try: http://www.mepis.org/
>get the Live CD - it is easily installed to the
>hard drive from a Live session; click the "download"
>link and get "SimplyMEPIS-2004.04.iso" from one
>of the mirrors


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Old 01-18-2008, 05:32 AM
jayachandran kamaraj
 
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the general procedure
the arrogance of Windows OS is a well known fact, that it won't recognize
anything else and merrily go and clear the MBR. So it doesn't matter which
OS you install first. Now in the present scenario you have both XP and FC2.
You can use your Fedora CD to start the computer, type "linux rescue" when
it asks you to press enter to start installation.
Then you can configure grub or lilo.

your specific case
even though it works, i'm not that much of a fan of using LABEL in grub.
because it works in precompiled kernel supplied as RPM from Redhat, once i
recompile it doesn't work, so i use explicit naming of the partition.
i seen the grub prompt, whenever the grub couldn't locate the /boot
partition, so you can try replacing the label with the explicit parition
number like (hd0,2) or (hd0,3)
jc

"Jean-David Beyer" <jdbeyer@exit109.com> wrote in message
news:10oevd7fvok9n0a@corp.supernews.com...
> Stephen J. Rush wrote:
>
> > I had Windows XP on this laptop, so I used Partition Magic 8 to shrink

the
> > NTFS partition and had Anaconda create the Linux partitions in the freed
> > space. I've read that Windows assumes that it will get the whole disk,
> > and will mess up any OS installed before it.
> >

> I hear a lot of things, too, not all true.
>
> I am not a big fan of Windows, but I had to install XP on a machine mostly
> used for something else and running Linux most of the time. I boot up XP
> once in a while.
>
> I am not sure what the Windows XP installer would do when presented with
> totally blank disks fresh out of the box from the manufacturer. What I did
> was to use tomsrbt, which I have on a CD-ROM, but it will still fit on a
> floppy, and used _fdisk_ to format the 80 G /dev/hda drive with 4
> partitions. I also formatted the /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.
>
> /dev/hda had a partition table at that point like this:
>
> /dev/hda1 24G ntfs
> /dev/hda2 4G vfat
> /dev/hda3 100M ext2
> /dev/hda4 rest W95 Ext'd LBA (code f)
>
> I then installed XP and it took hda1 and hda2 and left the rest alone.
> I then installed Fedora Core 2 and formatted the rest of hda, and sda and
> sdb with the disk druid.
>
> (Later I removed Fedora and installed Red Hat Linux 9, for reasons posted
> somewhere else on this newsgroup, but that is another story.)
>
> --
> .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
> /V\ Registered Machine 241939.
> /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
> ^^-^^ 07:15:01 up 10 days, 10:08, 4 users, load average: 4.37, 4.33,

4.25
>



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Old 01-18-2008, 05:32 AM
mjt
 
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Mattia wrote:

> Hello,
> thanks for your help, this is the list:


.... well, i checked out the entries and they
all look fine. can you boot with the Live CD
and mount /dev/hda3 and /dev/hda4 and browse
around and ensure the files are all there?
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