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Hi there !

A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would like
to upgrade to 7.2. If merely re-installing, he would lose a lot of config
, so he just want to upgrade.

Where can I download such an upgrade package, now that RedHat no longer
maintains old distros ?

Bernard wrote:
> Hi there !
>
> A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would like
> to upgrade to 7.2. If merely re-installing, he would lose a lot of config
> , so he just want to upgrade.
>
> Where can I download such an upgrade package, now that RedHat no longer
> maintains old distros ?

If your friend wants to upgrade, why not upgrade all the way to RHL 9? If
you go to a bookstore, many books on Linux will have a CD-ROM inside one
of the covers. For RHL9, it will take, IIRC, 3 CD-ROM.

Or upgrade to either Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.

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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:20:29 +0200, Jean-David Beyer wrote:

> Bernard wrote:
>> Hi there !
>>
>> A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would
>> like to upgrade to 7.2. If merely re-installing, he would lose a lot of
>> config , so he just want to upgrade.
>>
>> Where can I download such an upgrade package, now that RedHat no longer
>> maintains old distros ?
>
> If your friend wants to upgrade, why not upgrade all the way to RHL 9?

My friend wants to upgrade, not re-install. Do you think that there are
upgrading files available that are supposed to upgrade straight from RH
7.2 to RH 9 ?

> If you go to a bookstore, many books on Linux will have a CD-ROM inside
> one of the covers. For RHL9, it will take, IIRC, 3 CD-ROM.
>
> Or upgrade to either Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.

Bernard wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:20:29 +0200, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>
>
>>Bernard wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there !
>>>
>>>A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would
>>>like to upgrade to 7.2. If merely re-installing, he would lose a lot of
>>>config , so he just want to upgrade.
>>>
>>>Where can I download such an upgrade package, now that RedHat no longer
>>>maintains old distros ?
>>
>>If your friend wants to upgrade, why not upgrade all the way to RHL 9?
>
>
> My friend wants to upgrade, not re-install. Do you think that there are
> upgrading files available that are supposed to upgrade straight from RH
> 7.2 to RH 9 ?
>
I have no idea. I have never gotten an upgrade to work. It usually just
hangs a little way into the upgrade process and I have to hit the reset
button to get out of it.

So, instead, I make and verify three backup tapes of my entire file system
and after doing the new install, restore things like /home and selected
parts of the rest. Then follows about a week or more of diddling all the
configurations, mainly in /etc.

What is the point of upgrading from RHL7.0 to RHL7.2? Why not RHL7.3? You
might be able to find a friend who has the RHL7.3 CD-ROMs around. Though I
tossed mine about 6 months ago. And there were a great number of security
fixes and bug fixes since the CD-ROMs were produced that I obtained with
up2date. But there is no support for RHL7.* so IMAO it just does not make
sense to upgrade from one obsolete version to another.

If you are interested in the security fixes, you will not get enough to
bother with. Even if you go to RHL9, support for that is terminated, so
you will not even be able to get the updates for it, at least, not easily,
and how would you even find out what updates are needed?

Consider that I am running Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 which came out late
last year, well after RHL7.3 was discontinued, and since it is a premium
product where reliability, security, and stability are the main goals, and
costing quite a bit annually, you can be sure Red Hat made it as good as
they could. Yet not too long afterwards, they had two major updates. In
the March 2004 one they had over 100 packages to update on my machine, and
in the May 2004 one, there were 147 packages updated on my machine. So
anyone installing something like RHL7.3 or even RHL8 would probably need
to update more than 250 packages just to be up with last May.

>
>>If you go to a bookstore, many books on Linux will have a CD-ROM inside
>>one of the covers. For RHL9, it will take, IIRC, 3 CD-ROM.
>>
>>Or upgrade to either Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.


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"Bernard" <debreil@lcpc.fr> wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.26.07.40.17.359280.1495@lcpc.fr.. .
> Hi there !
>
> A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would like
> to upgrade to 7.2. If merely re-installing, he would lose a lot of config
> , so he just want to upgrade.
>
> Where can I download such an upgrade package, now that RedHat no longer
> maintains old distros ?

The installation CD's include an upgrade option. They can be found on
various RedHat mirror sites listed at www.redhat.com. But your friend should
*really* think about updating to Fedora, for security reasons. Even if your
friend needs to upgrade their hard drive as well, it's possible to duplicate
the hard drive and do the update on that larger duplicate instead.

"Bernard" <debreil@lcpc.fr> wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.26.12.02.04.507032.1166@lcpc.fr.. .
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:20:29 +0200, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>
> > Bernard wrote:
> >> Hi there !
> >>
> >> A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would
> >> like to upgrade to 7.2. If merely re-installing, he would lose a lot of
> >> config , so he just want to upgrade.
> >>
> >> Where can I download such an upgrade package, now that RedHat no longer
> >> maintains old distros ?
> >
> > If your friend wants to upgrade, why not upgrade all the way to RHL 9?
>
> My friend wants to upgrade, not re-install. Do you think that there are
> upgrading files available that are supposed to upgrade straight from RH
> 7.2 to RH 9 ?

All the RedHat insallation CD sets, for some time now, will upgrade you from
the older releases of RedHat to the new release on teh CD's.

Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Bernard wrote:
>
>> Hi there !
>>
>> A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would like
>> to upgrade to 7.2. If merely re-installing, he would lose a lot of config
>> , so he just want to upgrade.
>> Where can I download such an upgrade package, now that RedHat no longer
>> maintains old distros ?
>
>
> If your friend wants to upgrade, why not upgrade all the way to RHL 9?
> If you go to a bookstore, many books on Linux will have a CD-ROM inside
> one of the covers. For RHL9, it will take, IIRC, 3 CD-ROM.
>
> Or upgrade to either Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.
>
I did an upgrade from RH7.2 to RH9 but found the RH9 Add/Remove
Applications pgm had lost track of what was installed so I finally did a
new installation.I don't know if the command line RPM would have worked
& wondered later if this could have been repaired.

Terry D.

Bernard <debreil@lcpc.fr> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.08.26.12.02.04.507032.1166@lcpc.fr> ...
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:20:29 +0200, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>
> > Bernard wrote:
> >> Hi there !
> >>
> >> A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would
> >> like to upgrade to 7.2. If merely re-installing, he would lose a lot of
> >> config , so he just want to upgrade.

If you must stay with 7.x you ought to go with 7.3 -- some sites still
have the last set of upgrades/patches for 7.3 (but not 7.2).

> >> Where can I download such an upgrade package, now that RedHat no longer
> >> maintains old distros ?
> >
> > If your friend wants to upgrade, why not upgrade all the way to RHL 9?
>
> My friend wants to upgrade, not re-install. Do you think that there are
> upgrading files available that are supposed to upgrade straight from RH
> 7.2 to RH 9 ?

Not to be relied upon -- same backups needed for such an upgrade jump
as a new install. On the other hand, he should back up data in either
case -- only thing to quibble about are config files, which have
probably changed since 7.1 anyway ;-)

> > If you go to a bookstore, many books on Linux will have a CD-ROM inside
> > one of the covers. For RHL9, it will take, IIRC, 3 CD-ROM.
> >
> > Or upgrade to either Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.

Sooner or later (sooner probably) you'll have to make the leap -- RH9
is already legacy, (free) update support for 7.x and 8.x is gone and
FC1 is slated for legacy in Sept 04.

Copy all the config files you can think of -- at least /etc/* and
/home/* as a quick and dirty way -- install new OS, restore config
backups. My guess is -- especially if this is a desktop box -- you
would better off re-configuring by hand to get familiar with the new
layouts, features, and options ...

Most of us don't like shopping/dealing for a new car, but you gotta do
it every so often if you're gonna drive (in the US anyway ;-)

good luck,
prg
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In article <pan.2004.08.26.07.40.17.359280.1495@lcpc.fr>, Bernard wrote:
>A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would like
>to upgrade to 7.2. If merely re-installing, he would lose a lot of config
>, so he just want to upgrade.

Probably going to be more trouble than it's worth. RH7.0 was a 2.2.x kernel
running on glibc-2.1.93 (which was an unoffical version released only by
Red Hat and had compatibility problems), while 7.2 was a 2.4.x kernel,
running on glibc2.2.4 nevermind all of the desktop changes.

The other problem is that your friend is obviously not making an effor to
keep the systems up to date. RH7.0 came out in September 2000, and support
for it was ended in April 2003. Even 7.2 which came out in October 2001 has
been unsupported since last year.

>Where can I download such an upgrade package, now that RedHat no longer
>maintains old distros ?

I suppose you could check to see if www.linuxiso.org still has it. If not,
try the used book stores and see if you can find an older book with GPL
CDs. As Nico Kadel-Garcia mentions, "upgrade" has been an option in place
of "install" on RH for years - I recall being offered that option with
3.0.3 in 1996. Given that, I'd strongly recommend going to something
up to date, like Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3. The procedure is
covered in the installation manual.

Also, I've never been happy doing an "upgrade", as it's a lot more of
a mess than doing a full backup (or two) of your current setup, then
wiping the install and putting in a clean install of the new stuff. You can
then go to your backups, and retrieve the files you may specifically need
and translating them to the current setup. (Often, when jumping so many
versions, even configuration files will no longer be compatible.)

Old guy

Bernard wrote:

> A friend of mine has RedHat 7.0 installed on his machine ; he would like
> to upgrade to 7.2.

.... bite the bullet and get current
..
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