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Old 01-18-2008, 05:16 PM
Dave Stratford
 
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Default Installing to a SATA drive

Hi folks,

Is there something special I need to do to install linux to a sata drive?

The machine I'm trying to install to currently only has a single sata
120GiB HDD. Three different distros have all failed to recognose the
presence of the HDD. Interestingly knoppix boots happily and sees the
drive and the W2000 install that the system builder left on as a test.

It's an MSI motherboard and a sepron3100 processor with 256GB ram, but
beyond that I'm not sure what else you would need to know.

Many thanks,

Dave

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:16 PM
Douglas Mayne
 
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Default Re: Installing to a SATA drive

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:06:07 +0000, Dave Stratford wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Is there something special I need to do to install linux to a sata drive?
>
> The machine I'm trying to install to currently only has a single sata
> 120GiB HDD. Three different distros have all failed to recognose the
> presence of the HDD. Interestingly knoppix boots happily and sees the
> drive and the W2000 install that the system builder left on as a test.
>
> It's an MSI motherboard and a sepron3100 processor with 256GB ram, but
> beyond that I'm not sure what else you would need to know.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Dave
>

Which GNU/Linux distro are you trying? The fact that knoppix works
indicates that the SATA chipset is supported, but maybe not be included
by default on the installer on the distro's you are trying. There may
be a command line option you can enter at boot for setup which will
indicate to use a special initrd or kernel. Check the README for each
distro.

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:16 PM
Grant
 
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Default Re: Installing to a SATA drive

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:06:07 +0000 (GMT), Dave Stratford <daves@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Is there something special I need to do to install linux to a sata drive?


Yes, use a very recent distro.
>
>The machine I'm trying to install to currently only has a single sata
>120GiB HDD. Three different distros have all failed to recognose the
>presence of the HDD. Interestingly knoppix boots happily and sees the
>drive and the W2000 install that the system builder left on as a test.


Well okay, Knoppix is a Debian derivative, use Debian?
>
>It's an MSI motherboard and a sepron3100 processor with 256GB ram, but

^^^^^ with
your budget for that much memory, hire an expert to install OS

I run twin SATA on MSI mobo: http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/test/boxen/sempro/
Only got 1GB RAM though.

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:16 PM
Dave Stratford
 
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Default Re: Installing to a SATA drive

In article <pan.2006.03.03.17.37.06.223330@slackware-3.localnet>,
Douglas Mayne <doug@slackware-3.localnet> wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:06:07 +0000, Dave Stratford wrote:


> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Is there something special I need to do to install linux to a sata drive?
> >
> > The machine I'm trying to install to currently only has a single sata
> > 120GiB HDD. Three different distros have all failed to recognose the
> > presence of the HDD. Interestingly knoppix boots happily and sees the
> > drive and the W2000 install that the system builder left on as a test.
> >
> > It's an MSI motherboard and a sepron3100 processor with 256GB ram, but
> > beyond that I'm not sure what else you would need to know.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Dave
> >

> Which GNU/Linux distro are you trying? The fact that knoppix works
> indicates that the SATA chipset is supported, but maybe not be included
> by default on the installer on the distro's you are trying. There may
> be a command line option you can enter at boot for setup which will
> indicate to use a special initrd or kernel. Check the README for each
> distro.


I've tried SuSE9.3, Centos4.2 & Fedora Core 4.

Dave

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Installing to a SATA drive

In article <4e01e817e1daves@orpheusmail.co.uk>, daves@orpheusmail.co.uk
(Dave Stratford) writes:

> Is there something special I need to do to install linux to a
> sata drive?


Pretend it's SCSI.

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:16 PM
Douglas Mayne
 
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Default Re: Installing to a SATA drive

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:03:36 +0000, Dave Stratford wrote:

> In article <pan.2006.03.03.17.37.06.223330@slackware-3.localnet>,
> Douglas Mayne <doug@slackware-3.localnet> wrote:
>> On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:06:07 +0000, Dave Stratford wrote:

>
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > Is there something special I need to do to install linux to a sata drive?
>> >
>> > The machine I'm trying to install to currently only has a single sata
>> > 120GiB HDD. Three different distros have all failed to recognose the
>> > presence of the HDD. Interestingly knoppix boots happily and sees the
>> > drive and the W2000 install that the system builder left on as a test.
>> >
>> > It's an MSI motherboard and a sepron3100 processor with 256GB ram, but
>> > beyond that I'm not sure what else you would need to know.
>> >
>> > Many thanks,
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >

>> Which GNU/Linux distro are you trying? The fact that knoppix works
>> indicates that the SATA chipset is supported, but maybe not be included
>> by default on the installer on the distro's you are trying. There may
>> be a command line option you can enter at boot for setup which will
>> indicate to use a special initrd or kernel. Check the README for each
>> distro.

>
> I've tried SuSE9.3, Centos4.2 & Fedora Core 4.
>
> Dave
>



Last November I installed OpenSuse 10 to see if the installer was more
friendly, etc. I also was checking how it worked to offer advice on
this newsgroup. That thread is here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3ead6d3e59af34

The very last message from Nico Kadel-Garcia may be relevent here, too:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....829a90efb1ef04

Try Slackware if your not married to any distribution. You don't get the
fancy interface with Slackware's setup, but at least you know (or can find
out) where to fix things to get things working.

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:16 PM
Dave Stratford
 
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Default Re: Installing to a SATA drive

In article <8lah02lg650tq8j45b2ps23oupl0e4osp9@4ax.com>,
Grant <bugsplatter@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:06:07 +0000 (GMT), Dave Stratford <daves@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:


> >Is there something special I need to do to install linux to a sata
> >drive?


> Yes, use a very recent distro.
> >
> >The machine I'm trying to install to currently only has a single sata
> >120GiB HDD. Three different distros have all failed to recognose the
> >presence of the HDD. Interestingly knoppix boots happily and sees the
> >drive and the W2000 install that the system builder left on as a test.


> Well okay, Knoppix is a Debian derivative, use Debian?
> >
> >It's an MSI motherboard and a sepron3100 processor with 256GB ram, but

> ^^^^^ with
> your budget for that much memory, hire an expert to install OS


Oops. Lol. 256MB.

> I run twin SATA on MSI mobo:
> http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/test/boxen/sempro/ Only got 1GB RAM though.


> Grant.


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Old 01-18-2008, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: Installing to a SATA drive

Dave Stratford wrote:
> In article <pan.2006.03.03.17.37.06.223330@slackware-3.localnet>,
> Douglas Mayne <doug@slackware-3.localnet> wrote:


>>On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:06:07 +0000, Dave Stratford wrote:


>>>Hi folks,
>>>Is there something special I need to do to install linux to a sata drive?


>>>The machine I'm trying to install to currently only has a single sata
>>>120GiB HDD. Three different distros have all failed to recognose the
>>>presence of the HDD. Interestingly knoppix boots happily and sees the
>>>drive and the W2000 install that the system builder left on as a test.


>>>It's an MSI motherboard and a sepron3100 processor with 256GB ram, but
>>>beyond that I'm not sure what else you would need to know.


>>Which GNU/Linux distro are you trying? The fact that knoppix works
>>indicates that the SATA chipset is supported, but maybe not be included
>>by default on the installer on the distro's you are trying. There may
>>be a command line option you can enter at boot for setup which will
>>indicate to use a special initrd or kernel. Check the README for each
>>distro.


> I've tried SuSE9.3, Centos4.2 & Fedora Core 4.


FC4 recognized the 160GB SATA drive on an ECS P4VMM2 with VIA P4M266 chipset. (If I am reading the
box specs correctly.) I did nothing beyond what the installation disk asked for. I don't know from
MBs and chipsets.

It did install as a logical volume rather than hda if that matters.

But I have another question, if it installed how could it not recognize the HD? Have you typed df
and du?

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:17 PM
Nico Kadel-Garcia
 
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Dave Stratford wrote:
> In article <pan.2006.03.03.17.37.06.223330@slackware-3.localnet>,
> Douglas Mayne <doug@slackware-3.localnet> wrote:
>> On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:06:07 +0000, Dave Stratford wrote:

>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Is there something special I need to do to install linux to a sata
>>> drive?
>>>
>>> The machine I'm trying to install to currently only has a single
>>> sata 120GiB HDD. Three different distros have all failed to
>>> recognose the presence of the HDD. Interestingly knoppix boots
>>> happily and sees the drive and the W2000 install that the system
>>> builder left on as a test.
>>>
>>> It's an MSI motherboard and a sepron3100 processor with 256GB ram,
>>> but beyond that I'm not sure what else you would need to know.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>

>> Which GNU/Linux distro are you trying? The fact that knoppix works
>> indicates that the SATA chipset is supported, but maybe not be
>> included by default on the installer on the distro's you are trying.
>> There may be a command line option you can enter at boot for setup
>> which will indicate to use a special initrd or kernel. Check the
>> README for each distro.

>
> I've tried SuSE9.3, Centos4.2 & Fedora Core 4.


"An MSI motherboard" is not wildly indicative. Get the exact model number,
please. I suspect your SATA controller is not supported in
not-bleeding-edge-recent kernels.


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Old 01-18-2008, 05:17 PM
Dave Stratford
 
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In article <6LCdnVQ8ZruFvpTZRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@comcast.net> wrote:

> "An MSI motherboard" is not wildly indicative. Get the exact model
> number, please. I suspect your SATA controller is not supported in
> not-bleeding-edge-recent kernels.


Okay. It's an MSI 'Nvidia C15G + MCP51G Chipset based K8NGM-V' motherboard.

I've tried googleing, tried the MSI website, linuxanswers.org and even the
centos and red hat sites, but so far found nothing. I'll keep looking, but
half the problem is that I'm not really certain what to look for.

Searching on K8NGM-V & linux does find stuff, but nothing to do with
installing to a sata drive.

Looking for more generic install linux onto sata gave me (amongst others)
links to kernaltrap.org[1] and linuxmafia.com[2], both of which suggested
that FC4 and CENTOS4.2 should work 'out of the box'. There was one page I
found that suggested that I pretend that the sata drive is scsi - but how
do I do that?

Dave
[1] kerneltrap.org/node/1787
[2] linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html

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