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I am a Linux newbie, so I apologize for that right off the bat.

I recently got the subject game and installed it on my system without
incident. Upon installing it, there was no icon, no direction on how to run
the game. I actually had to install the game while logged in as root. I am
using the Gnome interface. My system is an Intel Pentium 4 Machine.

Upon consulting the manual, it says "To run the game, enter heretic2 from
the command line within X". (LOL)

W H A T T H E H E L L I S "X" ????

Better yet, did a search for "heretic2" on the entire hard drive and came up
with nothing...

I am beginning to feel really stupid using this OS...sorry for the sarcasm,
but if anyone can set me strait I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you.

Jeff Lloyd wrote:
> I am a Linux newbie, so I apologize for that right off the bat.
>
> I recently got the subject game and installed it on my system without
> incident. Upon installing it, there was no icon, no direction on how to run
> the game. I actually had to install the game while logged in as root. I am
> using the Gnome interface. My system is an Intel Pentium 4 Machine.
>
> Upon consulting the manual, it says "To run the game, enter heretic2 from
> the command line within X". (LOL)
>
> W H A T T H E H E L L I S "X" ????
>

GNOME is an X windows system. its suggesting that you run your
windowing system before you try to start the game. Dont try it at a
text only console in other words.

so within gnome, open up a command prompt and type heretic2.

> Better yet, did a search for "heretic2" on the entire hard drive and came up
> with nothing...

How did you search? will will be much more help in these forums if you
are more specific.

likely you used 'locate' which didnt get a chance to add the heretic
files to its database. locate updates its database once per day. you
can update it manually if you wish, then reissue the locate heretic command.

>
> I am beginning to feel really stupid using this OS...sorry for the sarcasm,
> but if anyone can set me strait I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>

try not to cross post so heavily. and pick your newsgroups better. 1
should suffice, if not people will tell you which one to ask in.


cl

"Jeff Lloyd" <jbl85@hotmail.com> writes:

> I am a Linux newbie, so I apologize for that right off the bat.
>
> I recently got the subject game and installed it on my system without
> incident. Upon installing it, there was no icon, no direction on how to run
> the game. I actually had to install the game while logged in as root. I am

It's usually the case in the linux world that root permission is
required to install system wide software. This way, naive, trusting
users don't inadvertently install viral code, since they don't have
permission. Of course, if you're new to linux, you have to be root
to do things even though you lack experience. But at least you can
only let yourself be root when you're being extra cautious.

> using the Gnome interface. My system is an Intel Pentium 4 Machine.
>
> Upon consulting the manual, it says "To run the game, enter heretic2 from
> the command line within X". (LOL)
>
> W H A T T H E H E L L I S "X" ????
>
X is X windows, the graphical interface used in linux. If, when you start
out, you've got a command line interface with nothing but text against a
blank screen, you're in command line mode. You should be able to get into
graphics mode with the command 'startx', however, with Redhat, the default
is to already be in graphics mode so that's probably not the problem.

What you need is a terminal window within X and there should be an icon
under the main window labeled 'terminal' that you can click on, or maybe
it's in a sub-menu under the main menu (which has an icon of a red hat)
like "system tools". Anyway, getting a terminal window and clicking in it,
or doing whatever is necessary to change the focus to that window, gives
you a command line interface within that window from which you can type
commands like 'heretic2'.

But I wonder how you even got the thing installed without a command line.

> Better yet, did a search for "heretic2" on the entire hard drive and came up
> with nothing...
>
> I am beginning to feel really stupid using this OS...sorry for the sarcasm,
> but if anyone can set me strait I would greatly appreciate it.

I bought heretic2 from Loki shortly after it was released. I played it
and it worked fine. I put away and went through various upgrades of my
system, until I had a sort of clone of RH9 from Edmunds-Enterprises. One
day I dusted off my CD of heretic2, installed it, and tried to run it,
and it didn't work. The install process is broken. It copied a lot of
stuff to /usr/local/games/heretic2, but it never copied over the actual
executable of heretic2. Really weird. I don't know if something went
wrong with the CD itself, or there's something about the RH9 configuration,
or what. All I know is, it used to work, and I hope it works for you.

You may also have a later revision of heretic2 from loki, because, with
my version, you wouldn't even be able to get it installed without a
command line interface, which you don't seem to know about.

>
> Thank you.

Thanks Guys -

I already tried opening up a terminal window and typing heretic2.

The system comes back and tells me that there is no such command...looks
like I am back to square one...Thanks anyway.

"Jeff Lloyd" <jbl85@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:teZKb.8249$214.271451@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> I am a Linux newbie, so I apologize for that right off the bat.
>
> I recently got the subject game and installed it on my system without
> incident. Upon installing it, there was no icon, no direction on how to
run
> the game. I actually had to install the game while logged in as root. I
am
> using the Gnome interface. My system is an Intel Pentium 4 Machine.
>
> Upon consulting the manual, it says "To run the game, enter heretic2 from
> the command line within X". (LOL)
>
> W H A T T H E H E L L I S "X" ????
>
> Better yet, did a search for "heretic2" on the entire hard drive and came
up
> with nothing...
>
> I am beginning to feel really stupid using this OS...sorry for the
sarcasm,
> but if anyone can set me strait I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>

On 2004-01-07, C. P. Weidling <cpw@rahul.net> wrote:

> But I wonder how you even got the thing installed without a command line.
>
>> Better yet, did a search for "heretic2" on the entire hard drive and came up
>> with nothing...
>>
>> I am beginning to feel really stupid using this OS...sorry for the sarcasm,
>> but if anyone can set me strait I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> I bought heretic2 from Loki shortly after it was released. I played it
> and it worked fine. I put away and went through various upgrades of my
> system, until I had a sort of clone of RH9 from Edmunds-Enterprises. One
> day I dusted off my CD of heretic2, installed it, and tried to run it,
> and it didn't work. The install process is broken. It copied a lot of
> stuff to /usr/local/games/heretic2, but it never copied over the actual
> executable of heretic2. Really weird. I don't know if something went
> wrong with the CD itself, or there's something about the RH9 configuration,
> or what. All I know is, it used to work, and I hope it works for you.
>
> You may also have a later revision of heretic2 from loki, because, with
> my version, you wouldn't even be able to get it installed without a
> command line interface, which you don't seem to know about.

I bought a copy of Heretic2 about a year ago for $1.99. I had
to hack on the install script to get it to install on RH7.2. It
wasn't copying things correctly, IIRC, it wasn't able to detect
hte libc version (I think it requires that old RH6 era libc be
installed). It took a few hours of sweat to get it installed,
but then it worked fine. Until I installed Mandrake 9.1, then
it just plain stopped working -- now the binary just segfaults.

Oh well, I guess for $1.99 I can't complain.

--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! We have DIFFERENT
at amounts of HAIR --
visi.com

I installed it via a terminal window.

the command was sh setup.sh

"Grant Edwards" <grante@visi.com> wrote in message
news:3ffc7ca8$0$41287$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com ...
> On 2004-01-07, C. P. Weidling <cpw@rahul.net> wrote:
>
> > But I wonder how you even got the thing installed without a command
line.
> >
> >> Better yet, did a search for "heretic2" on the entire hard drive and
came up
> >> with nothing...
> >>
> >> I am beginning to feel really stupid using this OS...sorry for the
sarcasm,
> >> but if anyone can set me strait I would greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > I bought heretic2 from Loki shortly after it was released. I played it
> > and it worked fine. I put away and went through various upgrades of my
> > system, until I had a sort of clone of RH9 from Edmunds-Enterprises.
One
> > day I dusted off my CD of heretic2, installed it, and tried to run it,
> > and it didn't work. The install process is broken. It copied a lot of
> > stuff to /usr/local/games/heretic2, but it never copied over the actual
> > executable of heretic2. Really weird. I don't know if something went
> > wrong with the CD itself, or there's something about the RH9
configuration,
> > or what. All I know is, it used to work, and I hope it works for you.
> >
> > You may also have a later revision of heretic2 from loki, because, with
> > my version, you wouldn't even be able to get it installed without a
> > command line interface, which you don't seem to know about.
>
> I bought a copy of Heretic2 about a year ago for $1.99. I had
> to hack on the install script to get it to install on RH7.2. It
> wasn't copying things correctly, IIRC, it wasn't able to detect
> hte libc version (I think it requires that old RH6 era libc be
> installed). It took a few hours of sweat to get it installed,
> but then it worked fine. Until I installed Mandrake 9.1, then
> it just plain stopped working -- now the binary just segfaults.
>
> Oh well, I guess for $1.99 I can't complain.
>
> --
> Grant Edwards grante Yow! We have DIFFERENT
> at amounts of HAIR --
> visi.com

In comp.os.linux.misc Jeff Lloyd <jbl85@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I installed it via a terminal window.

> the command was sh setup.sh

ftp://sunsite.dk/mirrors/lokigames/i...nstall-x86.run

Downloat that installer. I believe it's updated to work properly with
new glibc libraries.

Remove the /usr/local/games/heretic2 directory. Mount the heretic2 CD
and run that installer.

That *should* work, if I remember correctly. I have the game installed,
but it's been a while since I installed it.

You'll need hardware accelerated GL libraries to make it worthwhile, but
there *is* a software renderer for the game.

Adam

"Jeff Lloyd" <jbl85@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:cX_Kb.4329$Ub6.128294@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

> Thanks Guys -
>
> I already tried opening up a terminal window and typing heretic2.

Try this, ass root, type this command

updatedb

When finished (This might take a while.), you can now search for heretic2
like this

locate heretic2

....and you should find where it is that way. The database for locate does
update itself every 24 hours so if you installed the game longer than 24
hours ago (assuming that you don't turn off your linux computer), the
database should already be updated and then you can just search for it with
locate.

--
~Ohmster

"Jeff Lloyd" <jbl85@hotmail.com> writes:

> Thanks Guys -
>
> I already tried opening up a terminal window and typing heretic2.
>
> The system comes back and tells me that there is no such command...looks
> like I am back to square one...Thanks anyway.
>
...<snip>...

Yeah, that's because the installer is apparently broken with respect
to newer linux distros. It never copies over the actual executable
file heretic2, though it does copy over other stuff, by default to
/usr/local/games/heretic2 (or something like that). Some other
posters made suggestions that might work. I'll be trying them myself
when I get around to it.

Thank you very much. This worked. Now at least there is an "executable"
that I can initiate to run the game...now I get the following which seems to
speak to the video mode? I have updated drivers from NVidia, but have not
installed them yet because they require that you NOT be in X when you
install them. I don't quite know how to boot into anything else but gnome,
but if anyone can comment as to how I would boot Linux without booting into
X, that would be much appreciated.

Here is the error that I got:

Added packfile /usr/local/games/heretic2/base/htic2-0.pak (4347 files)

Executing global default.cfg

Could not find /root/.loki/heretic2/config.cfg

Unable to exec config.cfg

NET Initialized

Loaded DLL /usr/local/games/heretic2/base/client_effects.so as 0x8a26960

Setting default sound support "snd_sdl.so"

Loaded DLL /usr/local/games/heretic2/snd_sdl.so as 0x8a26d78

Console initialized.

VID: initial refresh soft

Loading /usr/local/games/heretic2/ref_soft.so

Loaded DLL /usr/local/games/heretic2/ref_soft.so as 0x8a29df0

Initializing VID module

Initialize software renderer

Setting mode x11 for device mouse

Initialized 640x480 16bit display

Shutting down sound.

Shutting down input handling

Shutting down sound.

Warning: currently only R5G6B5 mode supported



Exiting Heretic II...

recursive shutdown




"Adam K Kirchhoff" <adamk@voicenet.com> wrote in message
news:PpOdnXjBQf4oLWGiU-KYkQ@giganews.com...
> In comp.os.linux.misc Jeff Lloyd <jbl85@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I installed it via a terminal window.
>
> > the command was sh setup.sh
>
>
ftp://sunsite.dk/mirrors/lokigames/i...nstall-x86.run
>
> Downloat that installer. I believe it's updated to work properly with
> new glibc libraries.
>
> Remove the /usr/local/games/heretic2 directory. Mount the heretic2 CD
> and run that installer.
>
> That *should* work, if I remember correctly. I have the game installed,
> but it's been a while since I installed it.
>
> You'll need hardware accelerated GL libraries to make it worthwhile, but
> there *is* a software renderer for the game.
>
> Adam
>