In comp.os.linux.misc Jeff Lloyd <jbl85@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you very much. This worked. Now at least there is an "executable"
> that I can initiate to run the game...now I get the following which seems to
> speak to the video mode? I have updated drivers from NVidia, but have not
> installed them yet because they require that you NOT be in X when you
> install them. I don't quite know how to boot into anything else but gnome,
> but if anyone can comment as to how I would boot Linux without booting into
> X, that would be much appreciated.

> Here is the error that I got:

> Added packfile /usr/local/games/heretic2/base/htic2-0.pak (4347 files)

> Executing global default.cfg

> Could not find /root/.loki/heretic2/config.cfg

> Unable to exec config.cfg

> NET Initialized

> Loaded DLL /usr/local/games/heretic2/base/client_effects.so as 0x8a26960

> Setting default sound support "snd_sdl.so"

> Loaded DLL /usr/local/games/heretic2/snd_sdl.so as 0x8a26d78

> Console initialized.

> VID: initial refresh soft

> Loading /usr/local/games/heretic2/ref_soft.so

> Loaded DLL /usr/local/games/heretic2/ref_soft.so as 0x8a29df0

> Initializing VID module

> Initialize software renderer

> Setting mode x11 for device mouse

> Initialized 640x480 16bit display

> Shutting down sound.

> Shutting down input handling

> Shutting down sound.

> Warning: currently only R5G6B5 mode supported



> Exiting Heretic II...

> recursive shutdown

Yeah, you will either need to install the nVidia drivers or adjust the
color depth your running at (which requires killing X and editing the X
config file, so you might as well install the nVidia drivers).

Also, never run things like that as the root user. All of Loki's games
are capable being run by your actual user on the system.

I don't remember what distribution you said you were running, but if
it's RedHat or one of the RedHat forks, you'll want to drop to init
level 3 ('telinit 3'). This will kill X and all applications running in
X, allowing you to log into the console. Then you can install the
drivers.

Adam

Jeff Lloyd wrote:

Now I have another question. And this will be the last as I know the
regulars and experienced get tired of such mundane questions from people
not in the know on this stuff.

I need a simple method of explanation of how NOT to boot into X. I am
learning slowly but surely, but the fact of the matter is that I need to
install video drivers from nVidia and I have to boot a certain way in
order to install them. Based on the docs from NVidia, my inittab file
is as follows, and I have cut and pasted what I THINK is relavent.

# Default runlevel. The runlevels used by RHS are:
# 0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
# 1 - Single user mode
# 2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you do not have
networking)
# 3 - Full multiuser mode
# 4 - unused
# 5 - X11
# 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
#
id:5:initdefault:

Now I can see that it is booting into X11. Fine. What do I change this
to in order to satisfy the installation of the NVidia drivers. Also,
when I am done, how do I edit this file in a command mode to get back to
X11?

Sorry for the stupid questions, but I will get this damn game running
one way or the other.

Thanks for any input.







> I am a Linux newbie, so I apologize for that right off the bat.
>
> I recently got the subject game and installed it on my system without
> incident. Upon installing it, there was no icon, no direction on how to run
> the game. I actually had to install the game while logged in as root. I am
> using the Gnome interface. My system is an Intel Pentium 4 Machine.
>
> Upon consulting the manual, it says "To run the game, enter heretic2 from
> the command line within X". (LOL)
>
> W H A T T H E H E L L I S "X" ????
>
> Better yet, did a search for "heretic2" on the entire hard drive and came up
> with nothing...
>
> I am beginning to feel really stupid using this OS...sorry for the sarcasm,
> but if anyone can set me strait I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>

In comp.os.linux.misc Jeff Lloyd <jbl85@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jeff Lloyd wrote:

> Now I have another question. And this will be the last as I know the
> regulars and experienced get tired of such mundane questions from people
> not in the know on this stuff.

> I need a simple method of explanation of how NOT to boot into X. I am
> learning slowly but surely, but the fact of the matter is that I need to
> install video drivers from nVidia and I have to boot a certain way in
> order to install them. Based on the docs from NVidia, my inittab file
> is as follows, and I have cut and pasted what I THINK is relavent.

> # Default runlevel. The runlevels used by RHS are:
> # 0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
> # 1 - Single user mode
> # 2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you do not have
> networking)
> # 3 - Full multiuser mode
> # 4 - unused
> # 5 - X11
> # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
> #
> id:5:initdefault:

> Now I can see that it is booting into X11. Fine. What do I change this
> to in order to satisfy the installation of the NVidia drivers. Also,
> when I am done, how do I edit this file in a command mode to get back to
> X11?

> Sorry for the stupid questions, but I will get this damn game running
> one way or the other.

> Thanks for any input.

No need to reboot or edit that file. As root, from an xterm, type:

$ telinit 3

That should kill X and all X apps. You'll now be able to log in via the
console. Install the drivers. If you want to, reboot. If not, just
do:

$ telinit 5

Voila, drivers installed :-)

Adam

Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Jeff Lloyd <jbl85@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Jeff Lloyd wrote:
>
>
>>Now I have another question. And this will be the last as I know the
>>regulars and experienced get tired of such mundane questions from people
>>not in the know on this stuff.
>
>
>>I need a simple method of explanation of how NOT to boot into X. I am
>>learning slowly but surely, but the fact of the matter is that I need to
>>install video drivers from nVidia and I have to boot a certain way in
>>order to install them. Based on the docs from NVidia, my inittab file
>>is as follows, and I have cut and pasted what I THINK is relavent.
>
>
>># Default runlevel. The runlevels used by RHS are:
>># 0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
>># 1 - Single user mode
>># 2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you do not have
>>networking)
>># 3 - Full multiuser mode
>># 4 - unused
>># 5 - X11
>># 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
>>#
>>id:5:initdefault:
>
>
>>Now I can see that it is booting into X11. Fine. What do I change this
>>to in order to satisfy the installation of the NVidia drivers. Also,
>>when I am done, how do I edit this file in a command mode to get back to
>> X11?
>
>
>>Sorry for the stupid questions, but I will get this damn game running
>>one way or the other.
>
>
>>Thanks for any input.
>
>
> No need to reboot or edit that file. As root, from an xterm, type:
>
> $ telinit 3
>
> That should kill X and all X apps. You'll now be able to log in via the
> console. Install the drivers. If you want to, reboot. If not, just
> do:
>
> $ telinit 5
>
> Voila, drivers installed :-)
>
> Adam

Well it looks like I have deeper issues than I thought. I get to the
NVIDIA installation screen, and then I get this "No precompiled
interface was found to match your kernal"
I then let the installation software try to compile such a thing, and
then nothing, it can't find anything. I am giving up on this for tonight.
I don't want to hear any Windows bashing!! After using Linux, I
appreciate Windows more and more. This just AIN'T EASY!!!

Thanks Adam for all of your help, but if you have anymore suggestions to
this, great. I think my next move is to go to the NVIDIA newsgroups and
go from there.

By the way, I went to add/remove programs, and I did not see anything
that I could install that would display the kernal interface.........

Jeff Lloyd <jbl85@hotmail.com> writes:

> Jeff Lloyd wrote:
>
> Now I have another question. And this will be the last as I know the
> regulars and experienced get tired of such mundane questions from
> people not in the know on this stuff.
>
> I need a simple method of explanation of how NOT to boot into X. I am
> learning slowly but surely, but the fact of the matter is that I need
> to install video drivers from nVidia and I have to boot a certain way
> in order to install them. Based on the docs from NVidia, my inittab
> file is as follows, and I have cut and pasted what I THINK is relavent.
>
> # Default runlevel. The runlevels used by RHS are:
> # 0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
> # 1 - Single user mode
> # 2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you do not have
> networking)
> # 3 - Full multiuser mode
> # 4 - unused
> # 5 - X11
> # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
> #
> id:5:initdefault:
^
|
| Change this from 5 (X11 as shown in the comments) to 3 (Full multi
user mode). The system should boot up to the kind of plain login
prompt us old time unix types know and love. You log in, and, if
at some point you time you want to go into X, use 'startx'.

When you want to go back to starting out in X11 again, change it
back to a 5.

...<snip>...

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 21:10:52 -0500, Jeff Lloyd <jbl85@hotmail.com>
wrote:

[cut]

>Well it looks like I have deeper issues than I thought. I get to the
>NVIDIA installation screen, and then I get this "No precompiled
>interface was found to match your kernal"
>I then let the installation software try to compile such a thing, and
>then nothing, it can't find anything. I am giving up on this for tonight.
>I don't want to hear any Windows bashing!! After using Linux, I
>appreciate Windows more and more. This just AIN'T EASY!!!
>
>Thanks Adam for all of your help, but if you have anymore suggestions to
>this, great. I think my next move is to go to the NVIDIA newsgroups and
>go from there.
>
>By the way, I went to add/remove programs, and I did not see anything
>that I could install that would display the kernal interface.........

Do you have the kernel-source package installed?

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 21:10:52 -0500, Jeff Lloyd <jbl85@hotmail.com>
wrote:

[cut]

>Well it looks like I have deeper issues than I thought. I get to the
>NVIDIA installation screen, and then I get this "No precompiled
>interface was found to match your kernal"
>I then let the installation software try to compile such a thing, and
>then nothing, it can't find anything. I am giving up on this for tonight.
>I don't want to hear any Windows bashing!! After using Linux, I
>appreciate Windows more and more. This just AIN'T EASY!!!
>
>Thanks Adam for all of your help, but if you have anymore suggestions to
>this, great. I think my next move is to go to the NVIDIA newsgroups and
>go from there.
>
>By the way, I went to add/remove programs, and I did not see anything
>that I could install that would display the kernal interface.........

BTW, in my limited experience, at least, Linux isn't much more trouble
than windows, once you become somewhat familiar with a few things like
mount points, configure scripts, etc. But it isn't as prefebricated
as Windows, so, for now, at least, people who value simplicy or
familiarity over flexibility might prefer Windows (or Mac).

When I go to Add/Remove programs, there is no option for a "kernal source
package". Is that something I have to download from somewhere?

"Mark Nagy" <m.d.nagySPAM-ME-NOT@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:tfluvvgpp0irp2g29glbt3ep1ldbejeg64@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 21:10:52 -0500, Jeff Lloyd <jbl85@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >Well it looks like I have deeper issues than I thought. I get to the
> >NVIDIA installation screen, and then I get this "No precompiled
> >interface was found to match your kernal"
> >I then let the installation software try to compile such a thing, and
> >then nothing, it can't find anything. I am giving up on this for
tonight.
> >I don't want to hear any Windows bashing!! After using Linux, I
> >appreciate Windows more and more. This just AIN'T EASY!!!
> >
> >Thanks Adam for all of your help, but if you have anymore suggestions to
> >this, great. I think my next move is to go to the NVIDIA newsgroups and
> >go from there.
> >
> >By the way, I went to add/remove programs, and I did not see anything
> >that I could install that would display the kernal interface.........
>
> Do you have the kernel-source package installed?

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:24:47 GMT, "Jeff Lloyd" <jbl85@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>When I go to Add/Remove programs, there is no option for a "kernal source
>package". Is that something I have to download from somewhere?

It can be downloaded (from redhat.com or rpmfind.net, for example) but
it should be on one of the installation CD's. With Fedora Core 1, I
generally use the rpm command in a terminal; I'm not familiar with
RH9's add/remove programs, so I don't know why it wouldn't be showing
the kernel source; maybe someone else knows.

Jeff Lloyd wrote:

> When I go to Add/Remove programs, there is no option for a "kernal
> source
> package". Is that something I have to download from somewhere?

It's under "Kernel Development". It's a standard package of that group
so the name isn't displayed unless you click open the list of "Standard
Packages".

--
Markku Kolkka
markku.kolkka@iki.fi