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Old 01-17-2008, 08:07 PM
John Stumbles
 
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Default Mandrake 2.6.3-4mdk v. 2.6.3-7mdk - trying to get a wireless card to work

I'm trying to get an 802.11g PCMCIA adaptor (Dabsvalue aka Edimax 7108 aka
Ralink Tech RT2500) to work under mdk 10.0. The driver (from Ralink's web
site) expects uname -r = 2.6.3-4mdk whereas my system has 2.6.3-7mdk. What
difference does the -x number (-4 v. -7) indicate?

The install script looked for a directory indicated by `uname -r`, so I
symlinked the -4 directory from the installation tarball to -7 which got
'make config' and to work and then did 'make install' (basically, the script
then copied the rt2500.ko and rt2500.ko.gz supplied for 2.6.3-4mdk instead
of -7).

The I then tried to '/sbin/insmod rt2500.ko' but get
insmod: error inserting 'rt2500.ko': -l Invalid module format

Is this what I should expect from hacking the version number?
What is the -4 version? Can I get Madk 10 to work with that?


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Old 01-17-2008, 08:07 PM
Nick Kew
 
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Default Re: Mandrake 2.6.3-4mdk v. 2.6.3-7mdk - trying to get a wireless card to work

In article <2m2njmFihn96U1@uni-berlin.de>,
"John Stumbles" <john.stumbles@ntlworld.com> writes:
> I'm trying to get an 802.11g PCMCIA adaptor (Dabsvalue aka Edimax 7108 aka
> Ralink Tech RT2500)


Realteks drivers are hopelessly broken (unless things have changed
very recently). But the card works under ndiswrapper (free) or the
linuxant driver (non-free).

> to work under mdk 10.0. The driver (from Ralink's web
> site) expects uname -r = 2.6.3-4mdk whereas my system has 2.6.3-7mdk. What
> difference does the -x number (-4 v. -7) indicate?


Not sure what driver that is, but then I wouldn't touch a mandrake
package with a bargepole.

> then copied the rt2500.ko and rt2500.ko.gz supplied for 2.6.3-4mdk instead


Pardon? .ko sounds more like a FreeBSD module than Linux!

> The I then tried to '/sbin/insmod rt2500.ko' but get
> insmod: error inserting 'rt2500.ko': -l Invalid module format


Erm, yes. What does "file rt2500.ko" tell you?

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Old 01-17-2008, 08:07 PM
John Stumbles
 
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Default Re: Mandrake 2.6.3-4mdk v. 2.6.3-7mdk - trying to get a wireless card to work

"Nick Kew" <nick@hugin.webthing.com> wrote in message
news:140us1-e21.ln1@webthing.com...
> In article <2m2njmFihn96U1@uni-berlin.de>,
> "John Stumbles" <john.stumbles@ntlworld.com> writes:
> > I'm trying to get an 802.11g PCMCIA adaptor (Dabsvalue aka Edimax 7108

aka
> > Ralink Tech RT2500)

>
> Realteks drivers are hopelessly broken (unless things have changed
> very recently). But the card works under ndiswrapper (free) or the
> linuxant driver (non-free).


Hmmm. " Mandrake 10 has the [ndis]wrapper as part of their kernel listed
under 3rd party drivers " (from http://www.linuxelectrons.com/).
But where's the list?!


> > to work under mdk 10.0. The driver (from Ralink's web
> > site) expects uname -r = 2.6.3-4mdk whereas my system has 2.6.3-7mdk.

What
> > difference does the -x number (-4 v. -7) indicate?

>
> Not sure what driver that is, but then I wouldn't touch a mandrake
> package with a bargepole.


I guess I don't have much choice if I'm running Mandrake though, do I? :-)

(I'm not religiously converted to Mandrake mind - I'd be happy to install
any other Linux that (a) installed, (b) worked in graphics mode (c) worked
with my network card. I just tried Mdk because I'd heard some good things
about it being easy to install & use, and had had a bad time trying to get
anywhere with Debian.)

> > then copied the rt2500.ko and rt2500.ko.gz supplied for 2.6.3-4mdk

instead
>
> Pardon? .ko sounds more like a FreeBSD module than Linux!


Seems to be what they call them for 2.6.x kernels (on Mdk at least)

> > The I then tried to '/sbin/insmod rt2500.ko' but get
> > insmod: error inserting 'rt2500.ko': -l Invalid module format

>
> Erm, yes. What does "file rt2500.ko" tell you?


ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped

I think I understood the 'Intel' bit :-)


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Old 01-17-2008, 08:07 PM
Eric Moors
 
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Default Re: Mandrake 2.6.3-4mdk v. 2.6.3-7mdk - trying to get a wireless card to work

> In article <2m2njmFihn96U1@uni-berlin.de>,
> "John Stumbles" <john.stumbles@ntlworld.com> writes:
>> I'm trying to get an 802.11g PCMCIA adaptor (Dabsvalue aka Edimax 7108
>> aka Ralink Tech RT2500)

>
> Realteks drivers are hopelessly broken (unless things have changed


Ralink Tech, not realtek.
I am using the ralink tech rt2400 module, works just fine.

> very recently). But the card works under ndiswrapper (free) or the
> linuxant driver (non-free).
>
>>to work under mdk 10.0. The driver (from Ralink's web
>> site) expects uname -r = 2.6.3-4mdk whereas my system has 2.6.3-7mdk.
>> What difference does the -x number (-4 v. -7) indicate?


Get the source code and compile it yourself.

http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm

> Not sure what driver that is, but then I wouldn't touch a mandrake
> package with a bargepole.
>
>> then copied the rt2500.ko and rt2500.ko.gz supplied for 2.6.3-4mdk
>> instead

>
> Pardon? .ko sounds more like a FreeBSD module than Linux!


It is the 2.6 naming convention for linux kernel modules.

Eric
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:08 PM
John Stumbles
 
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Default Re: Mandrake 2.6.3-4mdk v. 2.6.3-7mdk - trying to get a wireless card to work

"Eric Moors" <scare.crow@oz.land> wrote in message
news:cdig1f$m23$1@voyager.news.surf.net...
> > In article <2m2njmFihn96U1@uni-berlin.de>,
> > "John Stumbles" <john.stumbles@ntlworld.com> writes:
> >> I'm trying to get an 802.11g PCMCIA adaptor (Dabsvalue aka Edimax 7108
> >> aka Ralink Tech RT2500)
> >>to work under mdk 10.0. The driver (from Ralink's web
> >> site) expects uname -r = 2.6.3-4mdk whereas my system has 2.6.3-7mdk.
> >> What difference does the -x number (-4 v. -7) indicate?

>
> Get the source code and compile it yourself.
>
> http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm


D'oh! Didn't think of that (getting weenified by this packages business -
when I used Solaris I used to have to compile everything myself, and often
to faff around with the order of compilers in $PATH to get it to do the
right thing :-)

Unfortunately 'make all' throws up errors, starting with
'/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-7mdk/include/linux/modversions.h: No such file ...'
The README says the source has been verified for 'Linux versions after
RedHat Linux 7.1' so maybe modversions.h is a RH thing?


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Old 01-17-2008, 08:08 PM
AM Christophe
 
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Default Re: Mandrake 2.6.3-4mdk v. 2.6.3-7mdk - trying to get a wireless card to work

John Stumbles wrote:

> "Eric Moors" <scare.crow@oz.land> wrote in message
> news:cdig1f$m23$1@voyager.news.surf.net...
>> > In article <2m2njmFihn96U1@uni-berlin.de>,
>> > "John Stumbles" <john.stumbles@ntlworld.com> writes:
>> >> I'm trying to get an 802.11g PCMCIA adaptor (Dabsvalue aka Edimax 7108
>> >> aka Ralink Tech RT2500)
>> >>to work under mdk 10.0. The driver (from Ralink's web
>> >> site) expects uname -r = 2.6.3-4mdk whereas my system has 2.6.3-7mdk.
>> >> What difference does the -x number (-4 v. -7) indicate?

>>
>> Get the source code and compile it yourself.
>>
>> http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm

>
> D'oh! Didn't think of that (getting weenified by this packages business -
> when I used Solaris I used to have to compile everything myself, and often
> to faff around with the order of compilers in $PATH to get it to do the
> right thing :-)
>
> Unfortunately 'make all' throws up errors, starting with
> '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-7mdk/include/linux/modversions.h: No such file ...'
> The README says the source has been verified for 'Linux versions after
> RedHat Linux 7.1' so maybe modversions.h is a RH thing?



include/linux/modversions.h is in 2.4 kernels source.
include/config/modversions.h is in 2.6 kernels source.

To build a 2.6 kernel, the simple procedure is:

make xconfig
make && make modules_install && make install

That's it

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Old 01-17-2008, 08:08 PM
Juhan Leemet
 
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Default Re: Mandrake 2.6.3-4mdk v. 2.6.3-7mdk - trying to get a wireless card to work

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:49:15 +0100, John Stumbles wrote:
> "Eric Moors" <scare.crow@oz.land> wrote in message
> news:cdig1f$m23$1@voyager.news.surf.net...
>> > In article <2m2njmFihn96U1@uni-berlin.de>,
>> > "John Stumbles" <john.stumbles@ntlworld.com> writes:
>> >> I'm trying to get an 802.11g PCMCIA adaptor (Dabsvalue aka Edimax 7108
>> >> aka Ralink Tech RT2500)
>> >>to work under mdk 10.0. The driver (from Ralink's web
>> >> site) expects uname -r = 2.6.3-4mdk whereas my system has 2.6.3-7mdk.
>> >> What difference does the -x number (-4 v. -7) indicate?

>>
>> Get the source code and compile it yourself.
>>
>> http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm

>
> D'oh! Didn't think of that (getting weenified by this packages business -


Ha! "weenified", that's pretty funny.

> when I used Solaris I used to have to compile everything myself, and often
> to faff around with the order of compilers in $PATH to get it to do the
> right thing :-)


Really? I remember in SunOS days (prior to and up to Solaris 1.1.1) I used
to build a bunch of freeware from tarballs. That usually worked quite well
actually. I suspect most freeware was being developed on SunOS.

These days I usually find freeware for Solaris (2.x+) on:
www.sunfreeware.com
www.blastwave.org

> Unfortunately 'make all' throws up errors, starting with
> '/usr/src/linux-2.6.3-7mdk/include/linux/modversions.h: No such file ...'
> The README says the source has been verified for 'Linux versions after
> RedHat Linux 7.1' so maybe modversions.h is a RH thing?


Yeah, I find most (but not all) application packages can be "ported" to
another distro quite easily. Kernel patches and/or drivers can be messy.
They should be more independent of distro, but they're still messy.

BTW, I have this header on SuSE 8.2:

rpm -qal | grep modversions.h
/usr/src/linux-2.4.20.SuSE/include/linux/modversions.h

p.s. I'm trying to work up the courage to implement wireless LAN 802.11g
on Linux. I guess I'm hoping someone else will have blazed a trail.

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Logicognosis, Inc.

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