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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Jim Stanley
 
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Default Network Recognition Strangeness - Newbie Setup

Hello,

I'm an experienced programmer new to Linux, and set up an old box
(266MHz, 64M RAM) with an old Mandrake 8.0 CD I had lying around. The
setup went really well, but at first it could not see my home network
(Liksys router) at all. I swapped out the NIC card and removed some
other peripherals that might have caused IRQ conflicts, and the box can
now see the router, but can't see the internet at large. Also, the
XWindow internet config program doesn't come up, so I'm assuming I have
to use ifconfig - where is the config file for it, and should I assume
it's called ifconfig.conf or is there another name for it?

AFAIK, I'm using a fixed IP address of 192.168.1.105 (or whatever the
prefix is: I'm not at the machine right now).

Any help gladly appreciated.

Thanks

Jim Stanley
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Lew Pitcher
 
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Jim Stanley wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm an experienced programmer new to Linux, and set up an old box
> (266MHz, 64M RAM) with an old Mandrake 8.0 CD I had lying around. The
> setup went really well, but at first it could not see my home network
> (Liksys router) at all. I swapped out the NIC card and removed some
> other peripherals that might have caused IRQ conflicts, and the box can
> now see the router, but can't see the internet at large. Also, the
> XWindow internet config program doesn't come up, so I'm assuming I have
> to use ifconfig - where is the config file for it, and should I assume
> it's called ifconfig.conf or is there another name for it?


ifconfig doesn't take a configuration file of any sort. It takes commandline
options only. Read ifconfig(8) ("man 8 ifconfig") for details.

Mandrake may (probably does) have a script that invokes ifconfig with the
proper options for your network setup. /That/ script may take a configuration
file.

Take a look at your system documentation to see how it recommends you set up a
network configuration. Or visit the Mandrake website and take a look at the
documentation hosted there. You might also visit the alt.os.linux.mandrake
newsgroup, and get some help there

[snip]

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Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing.
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Jim Stanley
 
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Default Re: Network Recognition Strangeness - Newbie Setup

Lew,

Thanks for the newsgroup tip. I've got it up and working, and managed
to get Samba working so the other (Windows) machines can see it.

Offhand, do you know how to get Samba starting automatically on bootup?

Thanks again,

Jim Stanley
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Lew Pitcher
 
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Jim Stanley wrote:
> Lew,
>
> Thanks for the newsgroup tip. I've got it up and working, and managed
> to get Samba working so the other (Windows) machines can see it.


Great news!

> Offhand, do you know how to get Samba starting automatically on bootup?


Yes and no.

I can tell you the Slackware way, but I have to make an educated guess about how
to manage it in Mandrake.

IIRC, Mandrake uses a customized configuration of the KDE desktop, so
- - log in as root
- - K -> System -> SysV-Init Editor
edit the startup scripts to enable the script that runs samba

A better hint would be to suggest that you ask in the alt.os.linux.mandrake
group, where they /do/ know how to do this :-)

> Thanks again,
>
> Jim Stanley



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Lew Pitcher
IT Specialist, Enterprise Data Systems,
Enterprise Technology Solutions, TD Bank Financial Group

(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:26:12 -0700, Jim Stanley wrote:

> Offhand, do you know how to get Samba starting automatically on bootup?


Have you looked in the Services section of the _Mandrake_ Control Center?
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Jim Stanley
 
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Bit Twister wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:26:12 -0700, Jim Stanley wrote:
>
>
>>Offhand, do you know how to get Samba starting automatically on bootup?

>
>
> Have you looked in the Services section of the _Mandrake_ Control Center?

No, but I will tonight, now that I know where to look!

Thanks again.

Jim Stanley

--- and I have one more post which I'll put on a different topic....
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Andrew Preater
 
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* Lew Pitcher <Lew.Pitcher@td.com>:
> Jim Stanley wrote:
>> Offhand, do you know how to get Samba starting automatically
>> on bootup?

>
> IIRC, Mandrake uses a customized configuration of the KDE desktop, so
> - - log in as root
> - - K -> System -> SysV-Init Editor
> edit the startup scripts to enable the script that runs samba
>
> A better hint would be to suggest that you ask in the
> alt.os.linux.mandrake group, where they /do/ know how to do
> this :-)


Some of us read both groups.

The Mandrake point-n-click way is to run 'drakxservices'. A
quicker way to acheive the same thing is Redhat's 'chkconfig',
which is included with Mandrake.

# chkconfig servicename on

....would be enough. The chkconfig manual is straightforward, I
suggest the OP read this first.

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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Nico Kadel-Garcia
 
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"Jim Stanley" <jhs-dash-angl-dash-music.at@at.earthlink-dot.net> wrote in
message news:d8aakr$bpf$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
> Bit Twister wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:26:12 -0700, Jim Stanley wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Offhand, do you know how to get Samba starting automatically on bootup?

>>
>>
>> Have you looked in the Services section of the _Mandrake_ Control Center?

> No, but I will tonight, now that I know where to look!


Or look up the manual page for the "chkconfig" command, which is wky F*all*
of those funky GUI's actually use behind the scenes.


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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Giovanni
 
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On 06/09/05 20:26, Jim Stanley wrote:
> Lew,
>
> Thanks for the newsgroup tip. I've got it up and working, and managed
> to get Samba working so the other (Windows) machines can see it.
>
> Offhand, do you know how to get Samba starting automatically on bootup?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Jim Stanley



Put these lines in your /etc/inetd.conf file:

## These are to start Samba, an smb server
netbios-ssn stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/smbd smbd
netbios-ns dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/nmbd nmbd

Ciao
Giovanni
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:47 AM
Nico Kadel-Garcia
 
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"Giovanni" <lsodgf0@home.net.it> wrote in message
news:42A9335C.40901@home.net.it...
> On 06/09/05 20:26, Jim Stanley wrote:
>> Lew,
>>
>> Thanks for the newsgroup tip. I've got it up and working, and managed to
>> get Samba working so the other (Windows) machines can see it.
>>
>> Offhand, do you know how to get Samba starting automatically on bootup?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Jim Stanley

>
>
> Put these lines in your /etc/inetd.conf file:
>
> ## These are to start Samba, an smb server
> netbios-ssn stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/smbd smbd
> netbios-ns dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/nmbd nmbd


No, that's how to run Samba out of inetd. This has several major flaws.

1: Most modern Linux and other OS distributions now use xinetd, which
keeps its services in individual config files in /etc/xinetd.d/.

2: You have to run xinetd or inetd to use this sort of feature.

3: It doesn't let you turn on or off Samba without having to futz with
the inetd or xinetd service.

4: No major OS distribution that I know of these days does Samba this
way anymore, they use init scripts instead.

There are some minor advantages to it, such as automatically restarting in
case Samba gets slapped down, but the overhead of running all these daemons
on a major Samba server is way too high to justify it.


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