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Old 01-17-2008, 06:05 AM
Richard
 
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1. Sorry if this is in HTML - I'm new to windows use and can't follow its
illogic (sheesh, putting 'stop' in a 'start' list!) and don't want to.
Change forced by my OS/2 having died at long last.
2. Sorry if its in the wrong newsgroup but this or c.o.l.misc would
appear to be the most suited from what my ISP carries. And if its been
googled I can't find it whilst using Windoze.
3. The actual questions:
a. Is there any other way to non-destructively resize a NTFS partition
apart from Mandrake 9.1's install utility?
b. Any particular gotcha's that people have found with the following
hardware P4 Titan 667 Motherboard (GA-8ST667 Series with SiS 645DX Chipset)
with onboard audio (which Win Xp identifies as a Avance AC97 Audio using IRQ
18),PS/2 style mouse (IRQ12), a GeForce2 MX400 with 64Mb, a Kensington
EtheRx KNE 100TX PCI Fast Ethrenet adapter (21143-PD) IRQ 17, ASUS PCI SC875
with IBM 9 GB HDD off it, an American Power Conversion UPS ES 350VA USB UPS
in a PCI slot but Win XP gives no further details on whether it uses a IRQ
or not, Seagate 40 Gb ATA100 (ST340016A) HDD (which WinXp has taken as a
single partition formated as NTFS and I want to change it) Primary Master
IDE (can/will swap it with a IBM HDD of 14Gb) Primary Slave 20 Gb
Seagate(ST320423A), Sony CD-ROM CDU5231 and Sony CD-RW CRX210E1, 1 Gb
memory.


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Old 01-17-2008, 06:05 AM
Peter T. Breuer
 
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Richard <c138535@internode.on.net> wrote:
> a. Is there any other way to non-destructively resize a NTFS partition
> apart from Mandrake 9.1's install utility?


You can use a partition magic utility, I believe. I think I also saw
something called ntfsresizer on freshmeat or somewhere .. google.

> b. Any particular gotcha's that people have found with the following
> hardware P4 Titan 667 Motherboard (GA-8ST667 Series with SiS 645DX Chipset)


SiS is a general nono for anything.

> with onboard audio (which Win Xp identifies as a Avance AC97 Audio using IRQ


ac97 is a generic name for something which almost satisfies a certain
interface spec. It may or may not work. In any case, you don't want a
motherboard or a sound card like that! Get another. Avoid integrated
anything.

> 18),PS/2 style mouse (IRQ12), a GeForce2 MX400 with 64Mb, a Kensington


Is geforce ati? If so it will proabbly work - check with xfree86.org as
to the support in the version of X that comes with mandrake 9.1

> EtheRx KNE 100TX PCI Fast Ethrenet adapter (21143-PD) IRQ 17, ASUS PCI SC875


Never heard of it. What chip?

> with IBM 9 GB HDD off it, an American Power Conversion UPS ES 350VA USB UPS


Never heard of it and will likely never work.

> in a PCI slot but Win XP gives no further details on whether it uses a IRQ
> or not, Seagate 40 Gb ATA100 (ST340016A) HDD (which WinXp has taken as a


Standard. Only the ide controller counts, not the disk. What controller?

> single partition formated as NTFS and I want to change it) Primary Master
> IDE (can/will swap it with a IBM HDD of 14Gb) Primary Slave 20 Gb
> Seagate(ST320423A), Sony CD-ROM CDU5231 and Sony CD-RW CRX210E1, 1 Gb
> memory.


1GB means that you will need a specially compiled kernel, or you'll only
see about 900MB of that.

Peter
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:05 AM
Clive Dove
 
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Peter T. Breuer wrote:

> Richard <c138535@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> a. Is there any other way to non-destructively resize a NTFS
>> partition apart from Mandrake 9.1's install utility?

>
> You can use a partition magic utility, I believe. I think I also saw
> something called ntfsresizer on freshmeat or somewhere .. google.
>

Why not use the Mandrake 9.1 installer? It is straightforward and
almost automatic and will repartition non-destructively to whatever
size that you want to cut out/

>> b. Any particular gotcha's that people have found with the
>> following hardware P4 Titan 667 Motherboard (GA-8ST667 Series with
>> SiS 645DX Chipset)

>
> SiS is a general nono for anything.
>


>> with onboard audio (which Win Xp identifies as a Avance AC97 Audio
>> using IRQ

>
> ac97 is a generic name for something which almost satisfies a certain
> interface spec. It may or may not work. In any case, you don't want a
> motherboard or a sound card like that! Get another. Avoid integrated
> anything.
>

Onboard sound is generally junk. Get a good pci soundcard and disable
onboard sound and onboard midi in the bios.

>> 18),PS/2 style mouse (IRQ12), a GeForce2 MX400 with 64Mb, a
>> Kensington

>
> Is geforce ati? If so it will proabbly work - check with xfree86.org
> as to the support in the version of X that comes with mandrake 9.1
>

My geforce is nvidia and nvidia has good support for their graphics
adapters. Mandrake 9.1 will install a generic nv adapter which is fine
for most purposes and for 3d you can download a package from nvidia
that will install the nvidia drivers to any kernel, including compiling
them if the kernel is a new version.

>> EtheRx KNE 100TX PCI Fast Ethrenet adapter (21143-PD) IRQ 17, ASUS
>> PCI SC875

>
> Never heard of it. What chip?
>

Is this possibly a typo? If the card is a Linksys LNE100TX, the module
is tulip.

>> with IBM 9 GB HDD off it, an American Power Conversion UPS ES 350VA
>> USB UPS

>
> Never heard of it and will likely never work.
>
>> in a PCI slot but Win XP gives no further details on whether it uses
>> a IRQ or not, Seagate 40 Gb ATA100 (ST340016A) HDD (which WinXp has
>> taken as a

>
> Standard. Only the ide controller counts, not the disk. What
> controller?
>
>> single partition formated as NTFS and I want to change it) Primary
>> Master IDE (can/will swap it with a IBM HDD of 14Gb) Primary Slave 20
>> Gb
>> Seagate(ST320423A), Sony CD-ROM CDU5231 and Sony CD-RW CRX210E1, 1
>> Gb memory.

>
> 1GB means that you will need a specially compiled kernel, or you'll
> only see about 900MB of that.
>
> Peter


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Old 01-17-2008, 06:05 AM
Markku Kolkka
 
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Richard wrote:
> a. Is there any other way to non-destructively resize a NTFS partition
> apart from Mandrake 9.1's install utility?


Commercial tools like Partition Magic and Acronis PartitionExpert.

> b. Any particular gotcha's that people have found with the following
> hardware P4 Titan 667 Motherboard (GA-8ST667 Series with SiS 645DX
> Chipset) with onboard audio (which Win Xp identifies as a Avance AC97
> Audio using IRQ 18),PS/2 style mouse (IRQ12), a GeForce2 MX400 with 64Mb,


You need the proprietary drivers from nVidia if you want 3D accelereration.

> a Kensington
> EtheRx KNE 100TX PCI Fast Ethrenet adapter (21143-PD) IRQ 17, ASUS PCI
> SC875 with IBM 9 GB HDD off it, an American Power Conversion UPS ES 350VA
> USB UPS in a PCI slot


What??? I have an APC BackUPS ES and it definetly doesn't fit in a PCI slot!

> but Win XP gives no further details on whether it
> uses a IRQ or not, Seagate 40 Gb ATA100 (ST340016A) HDD (which WinXp has
> taken as a
> single partition formated as NTFS and I want to change it) Primary Master
> IDE (can/will swap it with a IBM HDD of 14Gb) Primary Slave 20 Gb
> Seagate(ST320423A), Sony CD-ROM CDU5231 and Sony CD-RW CRX210E1, 1 Gb
> memory.


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markku.kolkka@iki.fi
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:05 AM
mjt
 
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Richard wrote:

> 1. Sorry if this is in HTML - I'm new to windows use and can't follow


then change to text mode in the settings of that broken reader

[snipped]
> a. Is there any other way to non-destructively resize a NTFS partition
> apart from Mandrake 9.1's install utility?


go to sourceforge and get ntfsresize utils

> b. Any particular gotcha's that people have found with the following
> hardware P4 Titan 667 Motherboard (GA-8ST667 Series with SiS 645DX


.... i'd start at http://www.google.com/linux and do the searches.
you could also go to groups.google.com or to the distro's website
and check their compatibility database

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Old 01-17-2008, 06:05 AM
Clive Dove
 
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Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

> Markku Kolkka wrote:
>
>> Richard wrote:
>>
>>>a. Is there any other way to non-destructively resize a NTFS
>>>partition apart from Mandrake 9.1's install utility?

>>
>>
>> Commercial tools like Partition Magic and Acronis PartitionExpert.

>
> Mandrake's resize utility is based on the ntfsresize utilities, at
> sourceforge.net. You can download them and use them by hand, which
> I've done myself last week. Nice little tools!
>
>>>b. Any particular gotcha's that people have found with the
>>>following hardware P4 Titan 667 Motherboard (GA-8ST667 Series with
>>>SiS 645DX Chipset) with onboard audio (which Win Xp identifies as a
>>>Avance AC97
>>>Audio using IRQ 18),PS/2 style mouse (IRQ12), a GeForce2 MX400 with
>>>64Mb,

>>
>>
>> You need the proprietary drivers from nVidia if you want 3D
>> accelereration.

>
> Yeah, they're at:
>
> ftp://download.nvidia.com/var/ftp/pub/nvidia
>
> They also are kernel specific: you'll need to recompile them if you
> switch to a customized kernel.
>
> Now, if I can just figure out how they got the names of those RPM's to
> be compiled in with RPM command line arguments so I could script their
> creation for my custom local kernels, I'd be in hog heaven....


The latest one is a single .run package that is run under sh and
compiles and installs both the glx package and the kernel package and
so it is no longer kernel dependent.

There are two lines that need to be inserted into file
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and the package is run under a sh command in
single user mode.

So what I did was to make up a modified /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.new file,
then issued "telinit -1" and then ran the sh command with the package
name as its argument and and then copied the new Config-4 file over the
old one while still in single user mode then issued startx.






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Old 01-17-2008, 06:06 AM
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"mjt" <mjtobler@removethis_consultant.com> wrote in message
news:KSgLa.122$jG3.51667159@newssvr11.news.prodigy .com...
> Richard wrote:
>
> > 1. Sorry if this is in HTML - I'm new to windows use and can't follow

>
> then change to text mode in the settings of that broken reader
>

Well excuuse me for fucking living you arrogant little shit!


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Old 01-17-2008, 06:06 AM
Richard
 
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"Clive Dove" <chdove@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:ILhLa.3797$2ay.3048@news01.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com...
> Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
> > Markku Kolkka wrote:
> >
> >> Richard wrote:
> >>
> >>>a. Is there any other way to non-destructively resize a NTFS
> >>>partition apart from Mandrake 9.1's install utility?
> >>
> >>
> >> Commercial tools like Partition Magic and Acronis PartitionExpert.

> >


Thanks

> > Mandrake's resize utility is based on the ntfsresize utilities, at
> > sourceforge.net. You can download them and use them by hand, which
> > I've done myself last week. Nice little tools!
> >

Thanks URL?

> >>>b. Any particular gotcha's that people have found with the
> >>>following hardware P4 Titan 667 Motherboard (GA-8ST667 Series with
> >>>SiS 645DX Chipset) with onboard audio (which Win Xp identifies as a
> >>>Avance AC97
> >>>Audio using IRQ 18),PS/2 style mouse (IRQ12), a GeForce2 MX400 with
> >>>64Mb,
> >>
> >>
> >> You need the proprietary drivers from nVidia if you want 3D
> >> accelereration.

> >


OK

> > Yeah, they're at:
> >
> > ftp://download.nvidia.com/var/ftp/pub/nvidia
> >


THANKS

> > They also are kernel specific: you'll need to recompile them if you
> > switch to a customized kernel.
> >


QUEEH?

> > Now, if I can just figure out how they got the names of those RPM's to
> > be compiled in with RPM command line arguments so I could script their
> > creation for my custom local kernels, I'd be in hog heaven....

>
> The latest one is a single .run package that is run under sh and
> compiles and installs both the glx package and the kernel package and
> so it is no longer kernel dependent.
>
> There are two lines that need to be inserted into file
> /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and the package is run under a sh command in
> single user mode.
>

Thanks

> So what I did was to make up a modified /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.new file,
> then issued "telinit -1" and then ran the sh command with the package
> name as its argument and and then copied the new Config-4 file over the
> old one while still in single user mode then issued startx.
>
>

???


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"mjt" <mjtobler@removethis_consultant.com> wrote in message
news:KSgLa.122$jG3.51667159@newssvr11.news.prodigy .com...
> Richard wrote:
>
> > 1. Sorry if this is in HTML - I'm new to windows use and can't follow

>
> then change to text mode in the settings of that broken reader

Sorry but as I said I DO NOT WANT TO BE BOTHERED LEARNING F***ING WINDOWS,
IF I HAVE DO TO THAT I MIGHT AS WELL STICK WITH THE F***ING THING.
>
> [snipped]
> > a. Is there any other way to non-destructively resize a NTFS

partition
> > apart from Mandrake 9.1's install utility?

>
> go to sourceforge and get ntfsresize utils

Thanks a URL would've been helpful.
>
> > b. Any particular gotcha's that people have found with the following
> > hardware P4 Titan 667 Motherboard (GA-8ST667 Series with SiS 645DX

>
> ... i'd start at http://www.google.com/linux and do the searches.
> you could also go to groups.google.com or to the distro's website
> and check their compatibility database
>

CAN I repeat it as I said I DO NOT WANT TO BE BOTHERED LEARNING F***ING
WINDOWS, IF I HAVE DO TO THAT I MIGHT AS WELL STICK WITH THE F***ING THING.


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Old 01-17-2008, 06:06 AM
Richard
 
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"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:hnbjdb.7jt.ln@news.it.uc3m.es...
> Richard <c138535@internode.on.net> wrote:
> > a. Is there any other way to non-destructively resize a NTFS

partition
> > apart from Mandrake 9.1's install utility?

>
> You can use a partition magic utility, I believe. I think I also saw
> something called ntfsresizer on freshmeat or somewhere .. google.


Thanks

>
> > b. Any particular gotcha's that people have found with the following
> > hardware P4 Titan 667 Motherboard (GA-8ST667 Series with SiS 645DX

Chipset)
>
> SiS is a general nono for anything.


Why?

> > with onboard audio (which Win Xp identifies as a Avance AC97 Audio using

IRQ
>
> ac97 is a generic name for something which almost satisfies a certain
> interface spec. It may or may not work. In any case, you don't want a
> motherboard or a sound card like that! Get another. Avoid integrated
> anything.


Too late this is what I have.
>
> > 18),PS/2 style mouse (IRQ12), a GeForce2 MX400 with 64Mb, a Kensington

>
> Is geforce ati? If so it will proabbly work - check with xfree86.org as
> to the support in the version of X that comes with mandrake 9.1
>
> > EtheRx KNE 100TX PCI Fast Ethrenet adapter (21143-PD) IRQ 17, ASUS PCI

SC875
>
> Never heard of it. What chip?
>
> > with IBM 9 GB HDD off it, an American Power Conversion UPS ES 350VA USB

UPS
>
> Never heard of it and will likely never work.
>

Worked fine during the power outage I recently had .

> > in a PCI slot but Win XP gives no further details on whether it uses a

IRQ
> > or not, Seagate 40 Gb ATA100 (ST340016A) HDD (which WinXp has taken as a

>
> Standard. Only the ide controller counts, not the disk. What controller?
>

The motherboard.

> > single partition formated as NTFS and I want to change it) Primary

Master
> > IDE (can/will swap it with a IBM HDD of 14Gb) Primary Slave 20 Gb
> > Seagate(ST320423A), Sony CD-ROM CDU5231 and Sony CD-RW CRX210E1, 1 Gb
> > memory.

>
> 1GB means that you will need a specially compiled kernel, or you'll only
> see about 900MB of that.
>
> Peter



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