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Old 01-17-2008, 08:20 PM
Le Lyonnais
 
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Default A ntfsdump utility ?

Hi, I boot a mini linux system on computer where normally win2000 is
installed. But i use pxelinux to start via LAN0 at boot time (BIOS and PXE
feature) a little kernel (ARP, BOOTP and TFTP protocols). I'd like to know
if a utility like ufsdump, dump but for ntfs filesystems exists.

In fact, i'd like to dump à NTFS partition rather than use dd if=/dev/hdaX
of=/......

Is it possible ?

Thanks in advance.



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Old 01-17-2008, 08:21 PM
Sz. Csetey
 
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Default Re: A ntfsdump utility ?

"Le Lyonnais" <lelyonnais@netcourrier.com> wrote in message news:<cann5p$oo1$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>...
> Hi, I boot a mini linux system on computer where normally win2000 is
> installed. But i use pxelinux to start via LAN0 at boot time (BIOS and PXE
> feature) a little kernel (ARP, BOOTP and TFTP protocols). I'd like to know
> if a utility like ufsdump, dump but for ntfs filesystems exists.
>
> In fact, i'd like to dump à NTFS partition rather than use dd if=/dev/hdaX
> of=/......
>
> Is it possible ?


http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/man/ntfsclone.html
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:21 PM
Al Dykes
 
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In article <cann5p$oo1$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>,
Le Lyonnais <lelyonnais@netcourrier.com> wrote:
>Hi, I boot a mini linux system on computer where normally win2000 is
>installed. But i use pxelinux to start via LAN0 at boot time (BIOS and PXE
>feature) a little kernel (ARP, BOOTP and TFTP protocols). I'd like to know
>if a utility like ufsdump, dump but for ntfs filesystems exists.
>
>In fact, i'd like to dump à NTFS partition rather than use dd if=/dev/hdaX
>of=/......
>
>Is it possible ?


FWIW i know people that use dd piped thru compress to make good
image backups of the ntfs partitions on multiboot laptops.

I don't see that writing to an ntfs partiton from Linux is reliable,
yet, let alone restoring an entire partition. The advantage of dd is
that it doesn't care about filesystem type.


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adykes at p a n i x . c o m
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:21 PM
Sz. Csetey
 
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adykes@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote in message news:<capend$kr1$1@panix3.panix.com>...
> In article <cann5p$oo1$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>,
> Le Lyonnais <lelyonnais@netcourrier.com> wrote:
> >Hi, I boot a mini linux system on computer where normally win2000 is
> >installed. But i use pxelinux to start via LAN0 at boot time (BIOS and PXE
> >feature) a little kernel (ARP, BOOTP and TFTP protocols). I'd like to know
> >if a utility like ufsdump, dump but for ntfs filesystems exists.
> >
> >In fact, i'd like to dump à NTFS partition rather than use dd if=/dev/hdaX
> >of=/......
> >
> >Is it possible ?

>
> FWIW i know people that use dd piped thru compress to make good
> image backups of the ntfs partitions on multiboot laptops.
>
> I don't see that writing to an ntfs partiton from Linux is reliable,
> yet, let alone restoring an entire partition.


ntfsclone does sector level backup/restore. Volume resizing and file
overwrite is also pretty stable and reliable. However no other write
functionality is implemented currently by the new NTFS team. They
wrote ntfsprogs and the new 2.6 kernel driver. Probably you're
confusing the different NTFS drivers, there are several for Linux (in
2.4 and earlier kernels, Captive NTFS, Paragon NTFS, etc).
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:22 PM
Al Dykes
 
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Default Re: A ntfsdump utility ?

In article <204f0b87.0406161228.3e535c80@posting.google.com >,
Sz. Csetey <szcs@abuse.co.uk> wrote:
>adykes@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote in message news:<capend$kr1$1@panix3.panix.com>...
>> In article <cann5p$oo1$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>,
>> Le Lyonnais <lelyonnais@netcourrier.com> wrote:
>> >Hi, I boot a mini linux system on computer where normally win2000 is
>> >installed. But i use pxelinux to start via LAN0 at boot time (BIOS and PXE
>> >feature) a little kernel (ARP, BOOTP and TFTP protocols). I'd like to know
>> >if a utility like ufsdump, dump but for ntfs filesystems exists.
>> >
>> >In fact, i'd like to dump à NTFS partition rather than use dd if=/dev/hdaX
>> >of=/......
>> >
>> >Is it possible ?

>>
>> FWIW i know people that use dd piped thru compress to make good
>> image backups of the ntfs partitions on multiboot laptops.
>>
>> I don't see that writing to an ntfs partiton from Linux is reliable,
>> yet, let alone restoring an entire partition.

>
>ntfsclone does sector level backup/restore. Volume resizing and file
>overwrite is also pretty stable and reliable. However no other write
>functionality is implemented currently by the new NTFS team. They
>wrote ntfsprogs and the new 2.6 kernel driver. Probably you're
>confusing the different NTFS drivers, there are several for Linux (in
>2.4 and earlier kernels, Captive NTFS, Paragon NTFS, etc).



Thanks for the update. It looks nice.

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Old 01-17-2008, 08:22 PM
John Thompson
 
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On 2004-06-15, Le Lyonnais <lelyonnais@netcourrier.com> wrote:
> I boot a mini linux system on computer where normally win2000 is
> installed. But i use pxelinux to start via LAN0 at boot time (BIOS and PXE
> feature) a little kernel (ARP, BOOTP and TFTP protocols). I'd like to know
> if a utility like ufsdump, dump but for ntfs filesystems exists.
>
> In fact, i'd like to dump à NTFS partition rather than use dd if=/dev/hdaX
> of=/......
>
> Is it possible ?


Try "partimage"

http://www.partimage.org/

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Old 01-17-2008, 08:23 PM
Sz. Csetey
 
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John Thompson <john@starfleet.os2.dhs.org> wrote in message news:<slrncd3pkn.6nv.john@starfleet.os2.dhs.org>.. .
> On 2004-06-15, Le Lyonnais <lelyonnais@netcourrier.com> wrote:
> > I boot a mini linux system on computer where normally win2000 is
> > installed. But i use pxelinux to start via LAN0 at boot time (BIOS and PXE
> > feature) a little kernel (ARP, BOOTP and TFTP protocols). I'd like to know
> > if a utility like ufsdump, dump but for ntfs filesystems exists.
> >
> > In fact, i'd like to dump à NTFS partition rather than use dd if=/dev/hdaX
> > of=/......
> >
> > Is it possible ?

>
> Try "partimage"
>
> http://www.partimage.org/


Partimage has its own, experimental NTFS implementation. Mostly works
but it's not as reliable, stable as ntfsclone. There are comments on
the Partimage forums about plans replacing the NTFS engine to the
rewritten, stable NTFS code by the linux-ntfs project.
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