At earth time Tue, 03 Feb 2004 09:10:46 +0000, the following transmission
was received from the entity known as Paul Black:

> Andy Baxter wrote:
>> got it running - there's now an annoying nvidia logo flash screen when i
>> start X,
>
> Easily fixable.

done it.

>
>> and it won't run more than one X server at the same time.
>
> Yes it will: "X :1" work fine for me.

on mine, it exits with 'can't allocate ...' (I'd have to do it again to
remember the error msg, and last time the whole machine hung instead , so
i won't)

>
>> Altogether I think i'll avoid them in future.
>
> Yes, that might be wise.

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At earth time Tue, 03 Feb 2004 09:20:41 +0000, the following transmission
was received from the entity known as Thomas Richter:

> Hi,
>
>> I've been getting system lockups, probably caused by the nvidia graphics
>> driver (RIVA TNT2 64 card). The crashes all seem to be from doing
>> something with X, like a ctrl-alt-backspace GUI shutdown, so I think it's
>> that.
>
>
> Which kernel version are you using? 2.4.18 has a definite bug in the AGP
> handling that can create lookups on graphics.

2.4.22.

>> I've just installed the latest driver to see if its any better.
>> Maybe it will work OK, but I'm not impressed with it:
>
>> - now I'm getting a 2 second nvidia logo flash screen whenever i start X.
>
> RTFM.

found it.

>> - the driver is released as binary only, and is a generic one for all
>> nvidia cards, so the kernel module and XFree86 drivers are huge (1.9 M and
>> 559 K).
>
> That's huge?

seems so, considering that the nv driver which comes with xfree86 is 75K
and doesn't load a kernel module or driver library, and the new one is
559K, and loads a 1.9M kernel module (bigger than my bz compressed kernel
image), but it doesn't make the system any faster. altogether that's about
as big as the whole of alsa, including all the drivers i'm not using.

> So long,
> Thomas

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it seems that my problem of lower fps wasn't experienced by others.
Because i can even stand the nvidia logo during startup because i was
aware of how to avoid it, but let it be there as i was lazy. but what
i can't stand was the lower fps.

jc
Andy Baxter <news4@earthsong.null.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.02.03.00.09.08.760695@earthsong.nul l.free-online.co.uk>...
> At earth time Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:02:38 -0800, the following transmission
> was received from the entity known as jayachandran kamaraj:
>
> > Hi all,
> > My machine configuration is as follows
> > P4, 1.6GHz, Sony vaio desktop with 512 MB Ram and Nvidia TNT2 Video
> > Card.
> > I am running both Redhat 9 and debian woody unstable. I have 2.4.20
> > kernel for redhat and 2.6.1 kernel for debian.
> > Till 2.4.20 i was happy because the "nv" driver provided by xfree gave
> > a performance of 220 fps (with the help of glxgears) and when i
> > install binary driver from nvidia it will go upto 287 fps.
> > Even though it looks smaller when i read some mails in which people
> > claim that they get 1000 fps or something like that, but i was happy
> > to see some difference in the fps between the xfree driver and
> > original driver provided by the card manufacturer.
> > Back to the problem, after i installed 2.6.1 in debian first i had
> > some problem in installing nvidia binary because it complained about
> > the modversions.h file and sometime later i found about the patch from
> > http:://www.minion.de and used them and installed them as per their
> > instructions, i.e., the debian way of make-kpkg.
> > Now the nvidia driver gives me just 60 fps with the new kernel and
> > nvidia binary driver, whereas the xfree driver still gives me 220 fps.
> > If i go back to rh9 and check, nvidia driver gives 290 fps. FYI i use
> > current nvidia driver 5336.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > jc
>
> I've been getting system lockups, probably caused by the nvidia graphics
> driver (RIVA TNT2 64 card). The crashes all seem to be from doing
> something with X, like a ctrl-alt-backspace GUI shutdown, so I think it's
> that. I've just installed the latest driver to see if its any better.
> Maybe it will work OK, but I'm not impressed with it:
>
> - now I'm getting a 2 second nvidia logo flash screen whenever i start X.
> - the driver is released as binary only, and is a generic one for all
> nvidia cards, so the kernel module and XFree86 drivers are huge (1.9 M and
> 559 K).
> - they don't release the card specs either, from what i last heard, so
> no-one can write an free driver.
>
> altogether I'll give them a miss in the future.

jayachandran kamaraj said:

> Andy Baxter <news4@earthsong.null.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.02.03.00.09.08.760695@earthsong.nul l.free-online.co.uk>...
>> At earth time Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:02:38 -0800, the following transmission
>> was received from the entity known as jayachandran kamaraj:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > My machine configuration is as follows
>> > P4, 1.6GHz, Sony vaio desktop with 512 MB Ram and Nvidia TNT2 Video
>> > Card.
>> > I am running both Redhat 9 and debian woody unstable. I have 2.4.20
>> > kernel for redhat and 2.6.1 kernel for debian.
>> > Till 2.4.20 i was happy because the "nv" driver provided by xfree gave
>> > a performance of 220 fps (with the help of glxgears) and when i
>> > install binary driver from nvidia it will go upto 287 fps.
>> > Even though it looks smaller when i read some mails in which people
>> > claim that they get 1000 fps or something like that, but i was happy
>> > to see some difference in the fps between the xfree driver and
>> > original driver provided by the card manufacturer.
>> > Back to the problem, after i installed 2.6.1 in debian first i had
>> > some problem in installing nvidia binary because it complained about
>> > the modversions.h file and sometime later i found about the patch from
>> > http:://www.minion.de and used them and installed them as per their
>> > instructions, i.e., the debian way of make-kpkg.
>> > Now the nvidia driver gives me just 60 fps with the new kernel and
>> > nvidia binary driver, whereas the xfree driver still gives me 220 fps.
>> > If i go back to rh9 and check, nvidia driver gives 290 fps. FYI i use
>> > current nvidia driver 5336.
>> >
>> > thanks
>> >
>> > jc
>>
>> I've been getting system lockups, probably caused by the nvidia graphics
>> driver (RIVA TNT2 64 card). The crashes all seem to be from doing
>> something with X, like a ctrl-alt-backspace GUI shutdown, so I think it's
>> that. I've just installed the latest driver to see if its any better.
>> Maybe it will work OK, but I'm not impressed with it:
>>
>> - now I'm getting a 2 second nvidia logo flash screen whenever i start X.
>> - the driver is released as binary only, and is a generic one for all
>> nvidia cards, so the kernel module and XFree86 drivers are huge (1.9 M and
>> 559 K).
>> - they don't release the card specs either, from what i last heard, so
>> no-one can write an free driver.
>>
>> altogether I'll give them a miss in the future.

> it seems that my problem of lower fps wasn't experienced by others.
> Because i can even stand the nvidia logo during startup because i was
> aware of how to avoid it, but let it be there as i was lazy. but what
> i can't stand was the lower fps.
>
> jc

I'm getting about 65 fps with mine, so i guess we have the same problem.
nvidia have a web forum on their site, so you could post there and ask? I
think I'm going to get a new graphics card some time.

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that's why i ordered a new graphics card yesterday. but it is still
nvidia. because when it comes to linux, almost all manufacturers
follow the same rule. provide binaries, not the source code. so i
decided to continue with the nvidia but a better one
jc
Andy Baxter <news4@earthsong.null.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.02.03.19.09.11.869502@earthsong.nul l.free-online.co.uk>...
> jayachandran kamaraj said:
>
> > Andy Baxter <news4@earthsong.null.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.02.03.00.09.08.760695@earthsong.nul l.free-online.co.uk>...
> >> At earth time Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:02:38 -0800, the following transmission
> >> was received from the entity known as jayachandran kamaraj:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > My machine configuration is as follows
> >> > P4, 1.6GHz, Sony vaio desktop with 512 MB Ram and Nvidia TNT2 Video
> >> > Card.
> >> > I am running both Redhat 9 and debian woody unstable. I have 2.4.20
> >> > kernel for redhat and 2.6.1 kernel for debian.
> >> > Till 2.4.20 i was happy because the "nv" driver provided by xfree gave
> >> > a performance of 220 fps (with the help of glxgears) and when i
> >> > install binary driver from nvidia it will go upto 287 fps.
> >> > Even though it looks smaller when i read some mails in which people
> >> > claim that they get 1000 fps or something like that, but i was happy
> >> > to see some difference in the fps between the xfree driver and
> >> > original driver provided by the card manufacturer.
> >> > Back to the problem, after i installed 2.6.1 in debian first i had
> >> > some problem in installing nvidia binary because it complained about
> >> > the modversions.h file and sometime later i found about the patch from
> >> > http:://www.minion.de and used them and installed them as per their
> >> > instructions, i.e., the debian way of make-kpkg.
> >> > Now the nvidia driver gives me just 60 fps with the new kernel and
> >> > nvidia binary driver, whereas the xfree driver still gives me 220 fps.
> >> > If i go back to rh9 and check, nvidia driver gives 290 fps. FYI i use
> >> > current nvidia driver 5336.
> >> >
> >> > thanks
> >> >
> >> > jc
> >>
> >> I've been getting system lockups, probably caused by the nvidia graphics
> >> driver (RIVA TNT2 64 card). The crashes all seem to be from doing
> >> something with X, like a ctrl-alt-backspace GUI shutdown, so I think it's
> >> that. I've just installed the latest driver to see if its any better.
> >> Maybe it will work OK, but I'm not impressed with it:
> >>
> >> - now I'm getting a 2 second nvidia logo flash screen whenever i start X.
> >> - the driver is released as binary only, and is a generic one for all
> >> nvidia cards, so the kernel module and XFree86 drivers are huge (1.9 M and
> >> 559 K).
> >> - they don't release the card specs either, from what i last heard, so
> >> no-one can write an free driver.
> >>
> >> altogether I'll give them a miss in the future.
>
> > it seems that my problem of lower fps wasn't experienced by others.
> > Because i can even stand the nvidia logo during startup because i was
> > aware of how to avoid it, but let it be there as i was lazy. but what
> > i can't stand was the lower fps.
> >
> > jc
>
> I'm getting about 65 fps with mine, so i guess we have the same problem.
> nvidia have a web forum on their site, so you could post there and ask? I
> think I'm going to get a new graphics card some time.