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I am new to Linux so these are basic questions.

I have two hard drives in my computer. At boot time both drives are
recognized by the system. The primary drive has three partions
HDA1-3. The secondary master shows up as HDC1 with a single partition
comprising the entire disk. When I go into the hardware browser both
drives are there. When I go to the disk mount utility HDC1 does not
show up.

Does this mean the HDC1 is mounted already?

I would like to make a DOS partition on the second hard drive but when
I try and do it using FDISK from the root directory I get "permission
denied" What am I doing wrong?

If I chose to use Disk Druid instead of FDISK how do I call the
program?

Is there any particularily good book someone should have as a
reference for RH 9.0?

Thanks,
Joe

>>>>> "Joe" == Joe Ready <j0eb0b@snigglet.com> writes:
Joe>
Joe> I am new to Linux so these are basic questions.
Joe> I have two hard drives in my computer. At boot time both drives
Joe> are recognized by the system. The primary drive has three
Joe> partions HDA1-3. The secondary master shows up as HDC1 with a
Joe> single partition comprising the entire disk. When I go into the
Joe> hardware browser both drives are there. When I go to the disk
Joe> mount utility HDC1 does not show up.
Joe>
Joe> Does this mean the HDC1 is mounted already?

You can get a list of what is mounted by typing "df" or "mount". See
if it is mounted.

Joe> I would like to make a DOS partition on the second hard drive but
Joe> when I try and do it using FDISK from the root directory I get
Joe> "permission denied" What am I doing wrong?

Are you trying to do that as the user root ? You probably have to be
root to do that.

Joe> If I chose to use Disk Druid instead of FDISK how do I call the
Joe> program?

I never use it . . .

Joe> Is there any particularily good book someone should have as a
Joe> reference for RH 9.0?

You might need a more general book on linux. Redhat's own documention
is ok as far as it goes:

https://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/

--Rob

Joe Ready wrote:
> I am new to Linux so these are basic questions.
>
> I have two hard drives in my computer. At boot time both drives are
> recognized by the system. The primary drive has three partions
> HDA1-3. The secondary master shows up as HDC1 with a single partition
> comprising the entire disk. When I go into the hardware browser both
> drives are there. When I go to the disk mount utility HDC1 does not
> show up.
>
> Does this mean the HDC1 is mounted already?
>
> I would like to make a DOS partition on the second hard drive but when
> I try and do it using FDISK from the root directory I get "permission
> denied" What am I doing wrong?
>
> If I chose to use Disk Druid instead of FDISK how do I call the
> program?
>
> Is there any particularily good book someone should have as a
> reference for RH 9.0?

What do you get from the command as root?: fdisk -l
It should show both drives and all partitions on the drives.

By the way "FDISK" isn't the same as "fdisk" on a linux system.
Linux is case sensitive.

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David <thunderbolt01@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<WhBZb.28579$4o.44896@attbi_s52>...
> Joe Ready wrote:
> > I am new to Linux so these are basic questions.
> >
> > I have two hard drives in my computer. At boot time both drives are
> > recognized by the system. The primary drive has three partions
> > HDA1-3. The secondary master shows up as HDC1 with a single partition
> > comprising the entire disk. When I go into the hardware browser both
> > drives are there. When I go to the disk mount utility HDC1 does not
> > show up.
> >
> > Does this mean the HDC1 is mounted already?
> >
> > I would like to make a DOS partition on the second hard drive but when
> > I try and do it using FDISK from the root directory I get "permission
> > denied" What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > If I chose to use Disk Druid instead of FDISK how do I call the
> > program?
> >
> > Is there any particularily good book someone should have as a
> > reference for RH 9.0?
>
> What do you get from the command as root?: fdisk -l
> It should show both drives and all partitions on the drives.
>
> By the way "FDISK" isn't the same as "fdisk" on a linux system.
> Linux is case sensitive.

Thanks for the tip on case sensitivity. I'm sure that is problem one
since I was typing in upper case.

I seem, however, to be sliding backwards. When I attempted to log in
this morning I get the error "Your account has expired, contact your
system adminstrator". My system is configured with only a single user
(me). Trying to reboot with the recovery diskette also fails. Any
idea how to regain access?

Thanks, Joe

j0eb0b@snigglet.com (Joe Ready) wrote in message news:<39d5dd6b.0402201212.1ed2638a@posting.google. com>...
> I am new to Linux so these are basic questions.
>
> I have two hard drives in my computer. At boot time both drives are
> recognized by the system. The primary drive has three partions
> HDA1-3. The secondary master shows up as HDC1 with a single partition
> comprising the entire disk. When I go into the hardware browser both
> drives are there. When I go to the disk mount utility HDC1 does not
> show up.
>
> Does this mean the HDC1 is mounted already?

No. Well for a partition to show there I think you would need to add
it in fstab. See man fstab for more info.

> I would like to make a DOS partition on the second hard drive but when
> I try and do it using FDISK from the root directory I get "permission
> denied" What am I doing wrong?

I think that becoming su would help

> If I chose to use Disk Druid instead of FDISK how do I call the
> program?
>
> Is there any particularily good book someone should have as a
> reference for RH 9.0?

I think experience is your best bet.

> Thanks,
> Joe

David <thunderbolt01@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<WhBZb.28579$4o.44896@attbi_s52>...
> Joe Ready wrote:
> > I am new to Linux so these are basic questions.
> >
> > I have two hard drives in my computer. At boot time both drives are
> > recognized by the system. The primary drive has three partions
> > HDA1-3. The secondary master shows up as HDC1 with a single partition
> > comprising the entire disk. When I go into the hardware browser both
> > drives are there. When I go to the disk mount utility HDC1 does not
> > show up.
> >
> > Does this mean the HDC1 is mounted already?
> >
> > I would like to make a DOS partition on the second hard drive but when
> > I try and do it using FDISK from the root directory I get "permission
> > denied" What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > If I chose to use Disk Druid instead of FDISK how do I call the
> > program?
> >
> > Is there any particularily good book someone should have as a
> > reference for RH 9.0?
>
> What do you get from the command as root?: fdisk -l
> It should show both drives and all partitions on the drives.
>
> By the way "FDISK" isn't the same as "fdisk" on a linux system.
> Linux is case sensitive.

David,

I figured out how to get in and reset my user password and thus could
test your suggestions.

The df command issued from the root directory shows only the three
partitions of hda, my first drive.

when I issue "fdisk -l I get a Bash error "command unknown"

Another related observation, when I plug a USB thumbdrive into a USB
port it too is recognized in the hardware browser as a removable disk
drive but I don't have any option to mount it either.

Pardon my ignorance but could you quote me the exact syntax of the
commands I should be issuing from the root directory prompt? I'm sure
the lion's share of my problem is cockpit error.

Joe Ready wrote:
>
> I figured out how to get in and reset my user password and thus could
> test your suggestions.
>
> The df command issued from the root directory shows only the three
> partitions of hda, my first drive.
>
> when I issue "fdisk -l I get a Bash error "command unknown"

Did you include the quotes in the command? If you did, don't!

fdisk -l

That should show something similar to this. Of course it will
show the drives and partitions of your system.

fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 36.7 GB, 36703933440 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 486 3903763+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 487 4462 31937220 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 487 610 995998+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/sda6 611 899 2321361 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 900 4462 28619766 83 Linux

Disk /dev/sdb: 9105 MB, 9105018880 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1106 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 547 4393746 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 548 1106 4490167+ 83 Linux


> Another related observation, when I plug a USB thumbdrive into a USB
> port it too is recognized in the hardware browser as a removable disk
> drive but I don't have any option to mount it either.

You have to tell it which device to mount. Something like this
but you may also need to tell it which filesystem to mount as well.

mount /dev/xxx /mnt/hd
xxx being the device/partition and /mnt/hd being the mount
point to use.

Or tell it which filesystem like this.

mount -t msdos /dev/xxx /mnt/hd
msdos can be vfat, ext2, ext3 reiserfs, or which ever
filesystem the drive is formatted as.

> Pardon my ignorance but could you quote me the exact syntax of the
> commands I should be issuing from the root directory prompt? I'm sure
> the lion's share of my problem is cockpit error.

Most commands in linux are all small letters. There are a few
that have capital letters though.

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Chris Mantoulidis wrote:
>
> No. Well for a partition to show there I think you would need to add
> it in fstab. See man fstab for more info.

fdisk -l
Will show the drives and partitions even if they aren't listed in
/etc/fstab.

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"Joe Ready" <j0eb0b@snigglet.com> wrote in message
news:39d5dd6b.0402201212.1ed2638a@posting.google.c om...
> I am new to Linux so these are basic questions.
>
> I have two hard drives in my computer. At boot time both drives are
> recognized by the system. The primary drive has three partions
> HDA1-3. The secondary master shows up as HDC1 with a single
partition
> comprising the entire disk. When I go into the hardware browser
both
> drives are there. When I go to the disk mount utility HDC1 does not
> show up.
>
> Does this mean the HDC1 is mounted already?
>
> I would like to make a DOS partition on the second hard drive but
when
> I try and do it using FDISK from the root directory I get
"permission
> denied" What am I doing wrong?
>
> If I chose to use Disk Druid instead of FDISK how do I call the
> program?
>
> Is there any particularily good book someone should have as a
> reference for RH 9.0?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe

I'm new to Linux myself (about a week) but isn't hdc your CDROM drive?
It seems to me that a second hard drive would show up as hdb, I'm
assuming that you don't have it attached to some additional ide port
card like a ata100 controller or something like that which could
complicate the issue. If, in fact, hdc is CDROM then that explains why
it's a single partition that you can't access. What sort of things
show up in /dev and /mnt? The man pages are your friends, takes a lot
of reading to figure this stuff out.

Rodney

On 20 Feb 2004 12:12:09 -0800, Joe Ready
<j0eb0b@snigglet.com> wrote:
> I am new to Linux so these are basic questions.
>
> I have two hard drives in my computer. At boot time both drives are
> recognized by the system. The primary drive has three partions
> HDA1-3. The secondary master shows up as HDC1 with a single partition
> comprising the entire disk. When I go into the hardware browser both
> drives are there. When I go to the disk mount utility HDC1 does not
> show up.
>
> Does this mean the HDC1 is mounted already?
>
> I would like to make a DOS partition on the second hard drive but when
> I try and do it using FDISK from the root directory I get "permission
> denied" What am I doing wrong?
>
You have to be root to use fdisk. Login as root or use su or sudo.


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