Eli Aran wrote:

> thank you for the advice
> is it different from Knoppix?

somewhat, but it's a distro that can be
run LIVE from CD and it has great h/w
detection

> is it similar to Linux red hat?

....mmmm. not really

> how do I "switch back and forth?

i was referring to having to boot back from
Linux to Window back to Linux etc.

> does installation require changing the MBR?

sure, but you dont HAVE to.

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I don't see any problem when Knoppix boots. aparently it recognizes the NIC
but when i try to surf the net i get "server timed out for (whichever web
address i put)"
i takes a lot of time to surf the menus of the os
when i shut down there a many "Raw Sense Data" errors in I/O sectors of the
CD
THEN i can see that it took two tries to unmount the NIC eth0
and another two tries to unmount root.
my conclusion is that i burned the ISO image file for the Knoppix CD TOO
FAST
i will make a second attempt in X32 rather than X52
and hope it will work better then.
if it does not solve the problem of internet connection i will switch to
Mepis as suggested and keep all of you posted.
thank you
Eli

Eli Aran wrote:
> I don't see any problem when Knoppix boots. aparently it recognizes the NIC
> but when i try to surf the net i get "server timed out for (whichever web
> address i put)"
> i takes a lot of time to surf the menus of the os
> when i shut down there a many "Raw Sense Data" errors in I/O sectors of the
> CD
> THEN i can see that it took two tries to unmount the NIC eth0
> and another two tries to unmount root.
> my conclusion is that i burned the ISO image file for the Knoppix CD TOO
> FAST
> i will make a second attempt in X32 rather than X52
> and hope it will work better then.
> if it does not solve the problem of internet connection i will switch to
> Mepis as suggested and keep all of you posted.
> thank you
> Eli
>
>
Mepis and Knoppix are very, very similar. Both act the same, both
recognize the same hardware, both choke on the same hardware. You would
be better off picking one and sticking with it.

jimbo

Eli Aran wrote:
> I am completely new to Linux
> I d/l and burned Knoppix 3.6 EN
> my computer has win xp pro
> I connect to the internet via a NIC and a cable modem.
> I am looking for support on configuring the internet connection via Knoppix
> (where to do what and how)
> any assistance is greatly appreciated!

I just set mine up 20 minutes ago. Click the "K" icon on lower left.
Then select 'Net card configuration', the "no" for broadcast, then enetr
your (static) IP address (for home router) ie 192.168.x.x or whatever.
then dns servers, gateways etc. and it should work right away. Mine
works must faster than with the previous OS I was using ;-)

thank you!
this is exactly the answer I was looking for.
I didn't think it were possible for the Knoppix os to guess the ISP's IP
address on its own
even if it were sophisticated enough to detect all the available installed
HARDWARE.
BTW - my initial problem was burning the Knoppix CD badly. X52 got many bad
sectors on it and it worked much too slowly.
my new CD was burnt at X32 and it opens all the menus immediately.
now I am going to collect the needed info for the cable connection and
transfer it all to the location you gave me in Knoppix.
I hope it saves the information somewhere and I can surf the net easily the
next times I boot to Knoppix.
thank you other people as well for helping out.
Eli

"Knoppix User" <nospam@knoppix.com> wrote in message
news:418D8C5D.7090407@knoppix.com...
> Eli Aran wrote:
> > I am completely new to Linux
> > I d/l and burned Knoppix 3.6 EN
> > my computer has win xp pro
> > I connect to the internet via a NIC and a cable modem.
> > I am looking for support on configuring the internet connection via
Knoppix
> > (where to do what and how)
> > any assistance is greatly appreciated!
>
> I just set mine up 20 minutes ago. Click the "K" icon on lower left.
> Then select 'Net card configuration', the "no" for broadcast, then enetr
> your (static) IP address (for home router) ie 192.168.x.x or whatever.
> then dns servers, gateways etc. and it should work right away. Mine
> works must faster than with the previous OS I was using ;-)

I searched the menus and discovered that the network card configuration is
in the penguin button - not the K button.
I gave all the data I found from the winxp configuration. I did not succeed
surfing any web site.
I always get server timed out.
I think there should be a separate location to configure the physical NIC
and cable modem and another for the ISP info.
the names of the information requested are sometimes a bit different than
those in Windows.
I'm sure there is (are) something I missed out while trying to configure it
all.
I will try not to get frustrated and get some help from near-by
Linux-knowledgeable friend or from my ISP.
my initial problem for now, is not learning the Linux basics (such as basic
commands) but establishing a working internet connection configuration and
trying to move-on from there. once I get a working connection I can always
connect to newsgroups or read guides on the net.
for now I am forced to kill knoppix and go back to my windows xp internet
connection newsgroups for help and advice on how to proceed with knoppix
config.

Eli Aran wrote:
> I searched the menus and discovered that the network card configuration is
> in the penguin button - not the K button.
> I gave all the data I found from the winxp configuration. I did not succeed
> surfing any web site.
> I always get server timed out.
> I think there should be a separate location to configure the physical NIC
> and cable modem and another for the ISP info.
> the names of the information requested are sometimes a bit different than
> those in Windows.
> I'm sure there is (are) something I missed out while trying to configure it
> all.
> I will try not to get frustrated and get some help from near-by
> Linux-knowledgeable friend or from my ISP.
> my initial problem for now, is not learning the Linux basics (such as basic
> commands) but establishing a working internet connection configuration and
> trying to move-on from there. once I get a working connection I can always
> connect to newsgroups or read guides on the net.
> for now I am forced to kill knoppix and go back to my windows xp internet
> connection newsgroups for help and advice on how to proceed with knoppix
> config.
>
>
>
The network card can be configured by: Knoppix > Network/Internet >
Network Card Configuration.

You might also check: Internet > More Programs > LinNeighborhood.

I think Samba and Lisa are only needed for local networks, but you could
check: Konsole "/etc/inited/samba start".

And: Settings > Control Center > Internet & Network > Local Network
Browsing. Use Guided Lisa setup.

Good luck, jimbo

Eli Aran wrote:
> I searched the menus and discovered that the network card configuration is
> in the penguin button - not the K button.
> I gave all the data I found from the winxp configuration. I did not succeed
> surfing any web site.
> I always get server timed out.
> I think there should be a separate location to configure the physical NIC
> and cable modem and another for the ISP info.
> the names of the information requested are sometimes a bit different than
> those in Windows.
> I'm sure there is (are) something I missed out while trying to configure it
> all.
> I will try not to get frustrated and get some help from near-by
> Linux-knowledgeable friend or from my ISP.
> my initial problem for now, is not learning the Linux basics (such as basic
> commands) but establishing a working internet connection configuration and
> trying to move-on from there. once I get a working connection I can always
> connect to newsgroups or read guides on the net.
> for now I am forced to kill knoppix and go back to my windows xp internet
> connection newsgroups for help and advice on how to proceed with knoppix
> config.

I just installed fedora. Very nice version of linux. Thanks knoppix for
the intro to linux!

Hi

Last sunday I was helping a friend who had a problem with his Windows XP
box (now theres a surprise), he had various viruses, and spywhere
(ditto previois () ), whnich had been removed. In the process of this
the internet broke.

I took various cd's with me, namely my collection of Linux cd's he has
ADSL, anyway, to make sure that the problem was really with the
software (windows) and not hardware related I booted Knoppix 3.6, it
detected the ADSL, network card, no problem and was stright on the net,

Back to windows, and calls to various tech suppot lines, ISP and
Microsoft, I fixed the problem (deleted winsock and winsock 2 from the
registry)

Try booting Knoppix and see if it detects your hardware, As I said it
just booted and worked, so perhaps the same thing will happen in your
case. If it works out of the box for me then it should do for most
people.

a few useful commands could be

ifconfig
this will give you various bits of info, and you should be able to work
out if you are on the net from that,

ifconfig eth0 up / down
brings your eth0 interface up or down respectivly,

Have a go, also I really suggest get your self a good book on Linux,
or read the ldp pages.

Also it may help if we knew more about your hardware, again if knoppix
actually boots but does not connect to the net goto a shell prompt and
type dmesg to get a list of boot messages, then type dmesg > bootmesg
to do the same and dump to a file, copy this to a floppy, and then
read through so you know what hardware it has, it says on boot if it's
found any network to connect to.

Paul

Eli Aran wrote:
> I am completely new to Linux
> I d/l and burned Knoppix 3.6 EN
> my computer has win xp pro
> I connect to the internet via a NIC and a cable modem.
> I am looking for support on configuring the internet connection via Knoppix
> (where to do what and how)
> any assistance is greatly appreciated!
>
>

Eli Aran wrote:
> I am completely new to Linux
> I d/l and burned Knoppix 3.6 EN
> my computer has win xp pro
> I connect to the internet via a NIC and a cable modem.
> I am looking for support on configuring the internet connection via Knoppix
> (where to do what and how)
> any assistance is greatly appreciated!
>
>
First off, *relax*.

Second, Knoppix does not *install* as such. It's designed to run from
the medium it is burned on (CD or DVD usually).

As far as connecting to the Internet from Knoppix, the biggest hurdle
will be whether your NIC is supported by Knoppix. Like you, I have a
cable-modem-based Internet connection (I also have a router in the mix).
The mere fact that I have a cable-modem-based connection means things
are actually *easier* on the network side; as far as Knoppix itself is
concerned, as long as it detects my NIC, it thinks I'm on a LAN.

By the by, this is equally true in any operating system that has
Internet connectivity: Linux, UNIX, Windows, MacOS, etc. Once the NIC
support is handled, it's pretty much downhill from there.