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Hey, I am almost done downloading the final iso of debian and am getting
really excited to try Linux. Here is my situation. I have a machine with
windows 2000 pro on it and i want to dual boot to linux. I have found a
plethera of information that helps me do this so I think I am good on that
point. In my exictment i converted my harddrive to a dynamic drive so I can
create a partition to install Linux. Then I remembered.... there are no
partitions with a dynamic drive in windows 2000. They are VOLUMES!!!

Now here's my question: Can I install debian onto a volume and still have
it work? Any help would be great!..
One other quick question. Debian 3 has 7 iso images (7 cd's) do I need the
upgrade iso as well? or is that for upgrade purposes only. Thanks again
for helping yet another newbie!

Hello

Sonny (<skindt@swwnet.com>) wrote:

> Hey, I am almost done downloading the final iso of debian and am
> getting really excited to try Linux. Here is my situation. I have a
> machine with windows 2000 pro on it and i want to dual boot to linux.
> I have found a plethera of information that helps me do this so I
> think I am good on that point. In my exictment i converted my
> harddrive to a dynamic drive so I can create a partition to install
> Linux. Then I remembered.... there are no partitions with a dynamic
> drive in windows 2000. They are VOLUMES!!!
>
> Now here's my question: Can I install debian onto a volume and still
> have it work? Any help would be great!..

I don't know enough about Windows 2000 to say how these volumes work,
but the normal way would be to simply shrink the windows partition and
create linux partitions in the free space. However, as far as I know,
the Debian installation program cannot resize NTFS partitions.

> One other quick question. Debian 3 has 7 iso images (7 cd's) do I
> need the upgrade iso as well? or is that for upgrade purposes only.
> Thanks again for helping yet another newbie!

You don't need it. The upgrade CD is for people who already have a set
of 3.0r1 ISOs and don't want to download everything again.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Andreas Janssen
andreas.janssen@bigfoot.com
PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674
Registered Linux User #267976

"Andreas Janssen" <andreas.janssen@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Hello
>
> Sonny (<skindt@swwnet.com>) wrote:
>
> > Hey, I am almost done downloading the final iso of debian and am
> > getting really excited to try Linux. Here is my situation. I have a
> > machine with windows 2000 pro on it and i want to dual boot to linux.
> > I have found a plethera of information that helps me do this so I
> > think I am good on that point. In my exictment i converted my
> > harddrive to a dynamic drive so I can create a partition to install
> > Linux. Then I remembered.... there are no partitions with a dynamic
> > drive in windows 2000. They are VOLUMES!!!
> >
> > Now here's my question: Can I install debian onto a volume and still
> > have it work? Any help would be great!..
>
> I don't know enough about Windows 2000 to say how these volumes work,
> but the normal way would be to simply shrink the windows partition and
> create linux partitions in the free space. However, as far as I know,
> the Debian installation program cannot resize NTFS partitions.
>
> > One other quick question. Debian 3 has 7 iso images (7 cd's) do I
> > need the upgrade iso as well? or is that for upgrade purposes only.
> > Thanks again for helping yet another newbie!
>
> You don't need it. The upgrade CD is for people who already have a set
> of 3.0r1 ISOs and don't want to download everything again.
>
> best regards
> Andreas Janssen
>
> --
> Andreas Janssen
> andreas.janssen@bigfoot.com
> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674
> Registered Linux User #267976

Thanks alot. Here is some information for you. When you have a basic
(normal) disk setup on windows 2000 (xp) and convert it to a dynamic disk
you CAN NOT resize the initial partition (volume) to make more room. The
way it works is you would install windows on say a 2 gig partition, convert
your disk to a dynamic disk and then you get to play and resize your free
space. You also cannot convert a dynamic disk back to a basic one. You will
loose all data. I have a 20 gig hard drive and all was used in the primary
partition. I converted it to a dynamic disk and now I end up with 7 Mb of
free space. I can't resize this anymore b/c partition magic wont play with
dynamic disks. So in a nutshell, unless i re-format my disk, this baby is a
dedicated windows machine.
DAMN MICROSOFT!!! I am going to wipe it just to spite ol' Bill.

Thanks for your help and I hope my errors help someone else!

Sonny uttered the immortal words:

> One other quick question. Debian 3 has 7 iso images (7 cd's) do I need
> the
> upgrade iso as well? or is that for upgrade purposes only. Thanks again
> for helping yet another newbie!

I only downloaded the first CD. It gets me a base stable system that I
"apt-get dist-upgrade" to unstable and install everything I want via APT
after that. This is not recommended for 56k modem users :-)

I should try to get an unstable CD with jigdo really but can't be bothered.
I have an apt-proxy here and it takes no time to upgrade stable to
unstable :-)

--
Andy.

"Sonny" <skindt@swwnet.com> wrote in message
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> Hey, I am almost done downloading the final iso of debian and am getting
> really excited to try Linux. Here is my situation. I have a machine with
> windows 2000 pro on it and i want to dual boot to linux. I have found a
> plethera of information that helps me do this so I think I am good on that
> point. In my exictment i converted my harddrive to a dynamic drive so I
can
> create a partition to install Linux. Then I remembered.... there are no
> partitions with a dynamic drive in windows 2000. They are VOLUMES!!!

I think you can return your simple volumes back to being inside normal
partitions...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=309044#3

You cant make complex volumes (volumes that are raided, striped, spanned)
simple...


but also the linux kernel can recognise dynamic drives, but how would you
create volumes in dynamic drives for linux to install on ?

Maybe you can make them with NT/2000/XP and then change them to be linux
filesystems ?

Lilo and grub should still be able to install on the first sector of the
hard disk
and load ...


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