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Hello,

I am new to Linux, very new. I installed Ubuntu 5.10 a couple of days
ago and so far I haven't figured out how to connect to the Internet. I
use a modem to connect to the Internet. I have already Googled and
Ubuntu web sited the problem and guess I am not following the
instructions correctly.

That is why I came here. To get a real person typing to me that could
put it in simple, newbie language for me. You know, really get basic
with it and kind of walk me through the process. I am not really sure
of anything, I don't know if my modem is already being recognized, don't
know where to go to check, don't know where to go to type in the right
information. If I even had the right info. typed in, I am not even sure
how to hit the connect button if I did, don't know where it is.

So, you can see, I am basically flopping in the wind here and could use
a lot of step by step. I use People PC to connect to the Internet, but
do not know things like the host name, domain name, Dns servers, etc...
Would be more than willing to gather that information if I knew what
the hell I was doing. Now I do believe that what is called the IP
Address is 4.88.72.201 and know that my modem is on com 3.

I know everything works, I can connect to the service using XP. I have
a dual booting system now with XP and Ubuntu. My computer is a Dell
B110/2.5GB Celeron/512MB RAM, 56k Modem, for what that may be worth.

Anyone bored enough to jump into this and see if you can help me start
getting some satisfaction out of Ubuntu?

Alt
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"(Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+)" wrote:

> ago and so far I haven't figured out how to connect to the Internet. I
> use a modem to connect to the Internet

> Address is 4.88.72.201 and know that my modem is on com 3.

Given that it is on com3 I'm guessing that you have an internal modem. If so
there is a good chance that it will turn out to be a software modem (AKA
winmodem) - these aren't complete modems, a lot of the work that is usually
done with hardware is done in software instead - and this (combined with a
lack of specs from hardware manufacturers) makes support a little tricky.

http://linmodems.org/ makes for a decent starting point in identifying such
devices and seeing if Linux support for them exists.

(The easy solution is to invest in a hardware modem that connects to the
serial port.)

--
David Dorward <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/> <http://dorward.me.uk/>
Home is where the ~/.bashrc is

have you got pppd installed?


"(Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+)" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am new to Linux, very new. I installed Ubuntu 5.10 a couple of days
> ago and so far I haven't figured out how to connect to the Internet. I
> use a modem to connect to the Internet. I have already Googled and
> Ubuntu web sited the problem and guess I am not following the
> instructions correctly.
>
> That is why I came here. To get a real person typing to me that could
> put it in simple, newbie language for me. You know, really get basic
> with it and kind of walk me through the process. I am not really sure
> of anything, I don't know if my modem is already being recognized, don't
> know where to go to check, don't know where to go to type in the right
> information. If I even had the right info. typed in, I am not even sure
> how to hit the connect button if I did, don't know where it is.
>
> So, you can see, I am basically flopping in the wind here and could use
> a lot of step by step. I use People PC to connect to the Internet, but
> do not know things like the host name, domain name, Dns servers, etc...
> Would be more than willing to gather that information if I knew what
> the hell I was doing. Now I do believe that what is called the IP
> Address is 4.88.72.201 and know that my modem is on com 3.
>
> I know everything works, I can connect to the service using XP. I have
> a dual booting system now with XP and Ubuntu. My computer is a Dell
> B110/2.5GB Celeron/512MB RAM, 56k Modem, for what that may be worth.
>
> Anyone bored enough to jump into this and see if you can help me start
> getting some satisfaction out of Ubuntu?
>
> Alt

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Peter.
http://www.pelicom.net.nz

>> Hello,
>>
>> I am new to Linux, very new. I installed Ubuntu 5.10 a couple of
>> days ago and so far I haven't figured out how to connect to the
>> Internet. I use a modem to connect to the Internet. I have already
>> Googled and Ubuntu web sited the problem and guess I am not
>> following the instructions correctly.
>>
>> That is why I came here. To get a real person typing to me that
>> could put it in simple, newbie language for me. You know, really
>> get basic with it and kind of walk me through the process. I am not
>> really sure of anything, I don't know if my modem is already being
>> recognized, don't know where to go to check, don't know where to go
>> to type in the right information. If I even had the right info.
>> typed in, I am not even sure how to hit the connect button if I did,
>> don't know where it is.
>>
>> So, you can see, I am basically flopping in the wind here and could
>> use a lot of step by step. I use People PC to connect to the
>> Internet, but do not know things like the host name, domain name,
>> Dns servers, etc... Would be more than willing to gather that
>> information if I knew what the hell I was doing. Now I do believe
>> that what is called the IP Address is 4.88.72.201 and know that my
>> modem is on com 3.
>>
>> I know everything works, I can connect to the service using XP. I
>> have a dual booting system now with XP and Ubuntu. My computer is a
>> Dell B110/2.5GB Celeron/512MB RAM, 56k Modem, for what that may be
>> worth.
>>
>> Anyone bored enough to jump into this and see if you can help me
>> start getting some satisfaction out of Ubuntu?
>>
>> Alt

In simple terms: a modem is used to call another modem, and the modems
pretend to be network connections using a protocol called PPP. So you need
the PPP tools, and something to control the modem and make the call. I
suggest that comp.dcom.modems might be a better group for this question, or
even one of the Debian websites that explain in detail how to do this.
Perhaps this page would be useful?

http://www.aboutdebian.com/modems.htm

On Sun, 05 Mar 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
<DUyOf.190$sL2.155@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.ne t>, (Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+)
wrote:

>I don't know if my modem is already being recognized, don't know where to
>go to check, don't know where to go to type in the right information.

'less /var/log/messages' without the quotes, then use the up and down
arrows on your keyboard to find the boot messages that refer to the serial
port. Press 'q' to quit. They'll look something like this:

Aug 21 16:23:27 Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS
SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
Aug 21 16:23:27 ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Aug 21 16:23:27 ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Aug 21 16:23:27 ttyS3 at 0x0e800 (irq = 11) is a 16550A

Here, ttyS0 and ttyS1 are the on-board serial ports. ttyS3 is a PCI
modem. If this command does not show a modem, then look at the output
of the 'lspci -vv' command looking for Serial hardware. You may want to
read the Serial-HOWTO and Modem-HOWTO

-rw-rw-r-- 1 gferg ldp 338050 Jun 17 2005 Modem-HOWTO
-rw-rw-r-- 1 gferg ldp 268131 Feb 20 13:59 Serial-HOWTO

on your system - should be in /usr/share/HOWTO/ I suspect. Use the 'less'
command to read them - 'zless' if the actual filenames end with '.gz'.

>If I even had the right info. typed in, I am not even sure how to hit
>the connect button if I did, don't know where it is.

I'm not using Ubuntu, but it comes with some applications that do a lot
of the setup for you.

>I use People PC to connect to the Internet, but do not know things like
>the host name, domain name, Dns servers, etc...

You're posting from windoze of some version. If you are using windows NT,
w2k, or XP, the command "ipconfig /all" will list them for you. If you are
using Windows 9X, ME then winipcfg and the more button will tell you.

What you actually need for configuration things (other than the modem stuff)
is phone number, user names, password, and the IP addresses of the DNS servers.
Where these go depends on the "tool" you are using to connect. Unlike windoze
(where the only tool is 'Dial Up Networking'), *nix has many different tools
available. I don't know which one you would be using.

>Now I do believe that what is called the IP Address is 4.88.72.201 and
>know that my modem is on com 3.

[compton ~]$ host 4.88.72.201
201.72.88.4.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer
dialup-4.88.72.201.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net
[compton ~]$

That's a "point of presence" service. "peoplepc.com" has contracted to other
providers such as Level3.net to provide a dial-in service in various cities.
Asking a whois server about 'peoplepc.com', I'm told they are actually using
EarthLink.net services. The "com 3" suggests an internal modem, which if
the BIOS sets things up the same way might be /dev/ttyS2 in Linux.

>My computer is a Dell B110/2.5GB Celeron/512MB RAM, 56k Modem, for what
>that may be worth.

Can't say - I've never used a Dell either.

Old guy

Thanks for all the follow-ups,

I wish to thank each of you for all of the prompt and helpful advice. I
realize now that I didn't properly list enough information in the first
post. It is an internal winmodem, a Conexant D850 and I am using XP-SP2.

I followed a few of the links, such as the one that told me the
difference between a hardware modem and a software modem and how
software modems were difficult to make work with Linux if possible at
all. I was not prepared to go out and buy new modems and things.

When I installed Ubuntu, I didn't realize that things would be so
different and hard for me to become accustomed too. I mean, I couldn't
sign on to the Internet, couldn't open any file that I had on any of my
CD's and didn't have a way to download whatever I may have needed to
make that possible, my printer was non-operational, etc...

I ordered the Ubuntu CD's because I had read on various websites that
Ubuntu was user friendly, easy to setup, great for Windows users who may
want to switch over and give Linux a try, etc... I just do not believe
that I am ready for it though. I have used Windows machines for over 10
years and thought that I knew a little about computers, not any deep,
low level knowledge, but fairly capable on a Windows machine anyway.

To be honest though, I did not have a clue as to where to even begin
using Ubuntu and making it into something that would be easy for me to
use. I knew how to open the pre-installed things like Open Office, the
games, etc... I felt like a matchstick in the wind when it came to all
of the commands and codes that were required to do just the simplest
thing, my flame of interest was blown out fairly quickly.

So, I just uninstalled it and have basically just given up I suppose.
There was never anything wrong with my XP installation anyway, I just
thought I would give Linux a try. I am not one of those that constantly
get viruses and malware with Windows, I just use a little common sense
and take proper preventative precautions, as a matter of fact, I have
been 10 years without a virus. But I had heard such good things about
Linux from various people in newsgroups, and on different websites and
was just curious.


Thank you all very much,

Alt

(Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+) wrote:
> Thanks for all the follow-ups,
>
> I wish to thank each of you for all of the prompt and helpful advice. I
> realize now that I didn't properly list enough information in the first
> post. It is an internal winmodem, a Conexant D850 and I am using XP-SP2.
>
> I followed a few of the links, such as the one that told me the
> difference between a hardware modem and a software modem and how
> software modems were difficult to make work with Linux if possible at
> all. I was not prepared to go out and buy new modems and things.
>
> When I installed Ubuntu, I didn't realize that things would be so
> different and hard for me to become accustomed too. I mean, I couldn't
> sign on to the Internet, couldn't open any file that I had on any of my
> CD's and didn't have a way to download whatever I may have needed to
> make that possible, my printer was non-operational, etc...
>
> I ordered the Ubuntu CD's because I had read on various websites that
> Ubuntu was user friendly, easy to setup, great for Windows users who may
> want to switch over and give Linux a try, etc... I just do not believe
> that I am ready for it though. I have used Windows machines for over 10
> years and thought that I knew a little about computers, not any deep,
> low level knowledge, but fairly capable on a Windows machine anyway.
>
> To be honest though, I did not have a clue as to where to even begin
> using Ubuntu and making it into something that would be easy for me to
> use. I knew how to open the pre-installed things like Open Office, the
> games, etc... I felt like a matchstick in the wind when it came to all
> of the commands and codes that were required to do just the simplest
> thing, my flame of interest was blown out fairly quickly.
>
> So, I just uninstalled it and have basically just given up I suppose.
> There was never anything wrong with my XP installation anyway, I just
> thought I would give Linux a try. I am not one of those that constantly
> get viruses and malware with Windows, I just use a little common sense
> and take proper preventative precautions, as a matter of fact, I have
> been 10 years without a virus. But I had heard such good things about
> Linux from various people in newsgroups, and on different websites and
> was just curious.
>
>
> Thank you all very much,
>
> Alt

That's just "Growing Pains" :-)

Try again - also read, read, read ....browse the usenet NGs - read the
threads/posts - Boot to LiveCD (Try Knoppix 4.0.2 - Excellent Auto
Hardware detection and Config) and note Linux has Great documentation
(perhaps some is a bit stagnant) and much is located right on the CDROM
(LiveCD, or HDD install - in;
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/...
(i.e., /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Kodak-Digitalcam-HOWTO/x2089.html)

It's documentation is InDepth and precise - not trying to HIDE
information from you like Proprietary OSes do.

I'm sure it took some time to learn all those little workarounds for
windblows -- and how to be semi-secure, by stripping atleast half the
OS.....I'm new to linux myself - and it can be quite frustrating, yet
I'm sticking in there, and relearning everything I taught myself
previously in order to use Windoze effectively/safely. -- Ease yourself
into Linux over time if you must - and note; bad habits learned die
hard ;-)

Excellent summary from Moe Trin
(I knew 'most' of what he describes - but I could never summarize it
and clarify it that simply ....plus I learned a little too)