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Hi.

I'm new to Linux, completely.

I ordered an Ubuntu CD from their website, mostly because it is was
completely free. (I'm not able to download a distro, as I am still one
of the unfortunate bastards that are plauged with dial-up.)


My question is this:

Is Ubuntu any good?

Additionally, are there any other websites that will send you a cd for
free?

"kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca" <kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca> wrote in post
1111035085.862929.91080@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.c om on 3/16/05 9:51 PM:

> Hi.
>
> I'm new to Linux, completely.
>
> I ordered an Ubuntu CD from their website, mostly because it is was
> completely free. (I'm not able to download a distro, as I am still one
> of the unfortunate bastards that are plauged with dial-up.)
>
>
> My question is this:
>
> Is Ubuntu any good?
>
> Additionally, are there any other websites that will send you a cd for
> free?
>
I, too, am new to Linux and have been playing with a number of distros - all
LiveCd's as I do not have a spare HD to play with.

Unbuntu seems as good as most, though the default theme was uninspiring
(that is being kind). I think it depends on what you are looking for and
what your needs are - that is the beauty of Linux, there are distros and
options for almost anyone. Here were my review posts about Ubuntu:

http://snipurl.com/dhbp
http://snipurl.com/dhbq

Good luck as a new user with Linux - I have been posting to
comp.os.linux.advocacy, and find there are a few people who are
knowledgeable, but mostly there are just jerks who belittle new users. I
have not been posting much into this group, so hopefully it is better. In
any case, I would not take the idiots who flame in Usenet forums as the norm
for any system... esp. advocacy groups.

Good luck and let me know what you find.
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On 16 Mar 2005 20:51:25 -0800, kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Is Ubuntu any good?

I am totally in love with ubuntu. I have used linux since 1993 and
haven't found any distro I really like. Until RedHat came I used
Slackware and before that I used SLS. When RedHat became payware I
started using Fedora, still not comfortable with any of the distros.

I have experimented a lot with debian and debian-based systems, but
havent found any that has seemed complete and sleek. On my laptop I
have switched distro about every second month because of "that small
annoying thing". This has been everything from hardware that just
won't spin to bad defaults and too complicated, not complicated enough
sub systems.

On my server i have stuck with Fedora because I now the distro well.

But now I have found ubuntu. I installed ubuntu warty on my laptop
early january and got almost extatic. ALL of my hardware worked and
the user interface was just as simple and customizable as I wanted it.
Since Ubuntu is based on debian, I know the package/software system
well and ubuntu have included a nice update agent that pops up a icon
in the system tray when there are updates available with checkboxes on
each update.

But two weeks after installation the harddisk crashed and I hade to
reinstall. Now I got the not yet released ubuntu hoary and things got
even better. I have been happy, miss nothing and have also migrated
my fedora server to ubuntu.

I highly recommend ubuntu.

--
Rolf Arne Schulze
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Min Weblog: http://roffe.tawlc.net/

kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca wrote:

> Is Ubuntu any good?

Yes.

> Additionally, are there any other websites that will send you a cd for
> free?

Try to track down a local Linux User Group (LUG). Members will often provide
you with CDs.

You could also scan the newstands for Linux Magazines. I don't know what the
state of play is in Canada, but my newagent carries about half a dozen
Linux mags, and over half of them have a distro stuck to the cover each
month.

--
David Dorward <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/> <http://dorward.me.uk/>
Home is where the ~/.bashrc is

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:20:41 -0700, Snit wrote:
> Unbuntu seems as good as most, though the default theme was uninspiring
> (that is being kind).

That's the way it's should be with everything. The suppliers should
not assume what you need. This should be up to each and every user.
Ubuntu is like that. A bare minimum to start with and easy to
customize.

I spent half an hour or so customizing my desktop and I'm very happy
with the result:

http://rolfas.net/wp-content/Screenshot.png

As I see it a good way to convert from being a windows user to a linux
user is to start with Xandros, get comfortable with it an then move on
to ubuntu.

--
Rolf Arne Schulze
Trans-atlantic weightloss challenge: http://tawlc.net/
Min Weblog: http://roffe.tawlc.net/

"Rolf Arne Schulze" <raskall@gmail.com> wrote in post
slrnd3iel4.or7.raskall@mail.ronningveien.net on 3/17/05 1:07 AM:

> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:20:41 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> Unbuntu seems as good as most, though the default theme was uninspiring
>> (that is being kind).
>
> That's the way it's should be with everything. The suppliers should
> not assume what you need. This should be up to each and every user.
> Ubuntu is like that. A bare minimum to start with and easy to
> customize.
>
> I spent half an hour or so customizing my desktop and I'm very happy
> with the result:
>
> http://rolfas.net/wp-content/Screenshot.png
>
> As I see it a good way to convert from being a windows user to a linux
> user is to start with Xandros, get comfortable with it an then move on
> to ubuntu.

For me, personally, it was not much of a problem - and I suspect others who
post to Usenet would not have much difficulty playing with themes. I teach
computer classes at a college, and often in my intro classes I have people
ask for alternatives to the malware ridden mess that is known as Windows.
Generally I suggest OS X, which I think is excellent for new users (and
others), but, of course, it uses proprietary hardware and is more expensive
if you already have PC hardware.

What I am looking for is a distro that would work for folks who do not know
the difference between a folder, a file, an application... etc. True
novices...
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:19:55 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
> What I am looking for is a distro that would work for folks who do not know
> the difference between a folder, a file, an application... etc. True
> novices...

The solution for that is any properly configured distribution. I guess
OS X is good for this purpose, but not everyone has a mac. I have been
a kde fan for ages, but decided to give gnome desktop a chance when I
installed ubuntu and I have no regrets. Gnome is intuitive, beautiful
in its simplicity and highly customizable.

For users that do not know the difference between a folder, a file,
an application, etc will do very good with any linux distribution with
a well thought through theme/desktop setup.

--
Rolf Arne Schulze
Trans-atlantic weightloss challenge: http://tawlc.net/
Min Weblog: http://rolfas.net/

(kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca) scribbled:

> I'm new to Linux, completely.
>
> I ordered an Ubuntu CD from their website, mostly because it is was
> completely free. (I'm not able to download a distro, as I am still one
> of the unfortunate bastards that are plauged with dial-up.)

> My question is this:
>
> Is Ubuntu any good?

.... it depends what you want from a distro. personally,
i've tried it and subsequently removed it. however, it
is quite usable and probably a good first distro. one
of the reasons i didnt like it is because i'm not a
GNOME type plus, i didnt see what it uniquely
afforded me that the other 10+ distros dont

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"Rolf Arne Schulze" <raskall@gmail.com> wrote in post
slrnd3ig48.or7.raskall@mail.ronningveien.net on 3/17/05 1:32 AM:

> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:19:55 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>> What I am looking for is a distro that would work for folks who do not know
>> the difference between a folder, a file, an application... etc. True
>> novices...
>
> The solution for that is any properly configured distribution. I guess
> OS X is good for this purpose, but not everyone has a mac. I have been
> a kde fan for ages, but decided to give gnome desktop a chance when I
> installed ubuntu and I have no regrets. Gnome is intuitive, beautiful
> in its simplicity and highly customizable.
>
> For users that do not know the difference between a folder, a file,
> an application, etc will do very good with any linux distribution with
> a well thought through theme/desktop setup.

What I have been looking for is a distro that comes that way - one where I
would not have to set up a computer. Now this assumes that the student can
do the installation even - something that may not be a realistic goal.
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David Dorward (dorward@yahoo.com) writes:
> kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
>> Is Ubuntu any good?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Additionally, are there any other websites that will send you a cd for
>> free?
>
> Try to track down a local Linux User Group (LUG). Members will often provide
> you with CDs.
>
> You could also scan the newstands for Linux Magazines. I don't know what the
> state of play is in Canada, but my newagent carries about half a dozen
> Linux mags, and over half of them have a distro stuck to the cover each
> month.
>
They do arrive here in Canada, and of course they are the magazines from
the UK.

But they tend to be expensive, like twenty dollars for an issue. They
are handy, especially when you happen to need a new version of your favorite
distribution and it appears on the cover of one of the magazines, but I
don't think it fits the low price the original poster was hoping for.

Michael