A few months ago I decided to install Linux as I wanted a minimum cost
system in another room - next to my main system. After some research I
selected Ubuntu, for 3 reasons

- my system should have a usable basic set of applications - I do not
need three different wordprocessors, two web browsers, etc. One of each
and then preferably the best will do. Ubuntu comes with Open Office and
Firefox, they are imho the best possible in what they do.
- a distro should be easy to install. On my basic system (Asrock k7s41
mother board, AMD Sempron 2300 cpu, 256 Mb Ram, 40 Gb Maxtor disk,
Lite-on cd burner) everything installed flawless, all h/w was
recognized and functions flawless.
- everything should be easy to customize. Ubuntu uses the Gnome
desktop, it satisfies this need. Moreover because it is based on debian
for almost every application you want a package is available.

Because of this success I installed it on my other sytem (a slightly
deviant machine in the Linux arena - it's a Sony PCV-W1) as well, this
gave me a bit more headache during installation - the video chip was
not recognized properly, but thanks to Google this hurdle was taken as
well - and I have to say I do not boot Windows to often on this machine
as well.

I apreciate all of the help that you guys have been. Help and
friendliness, together, is hard to come by these days on usenet
nowadays.

I apreciate all of the help that you guys have been. Help and
friendliness, together, is hard to come by these days on usenet.

Snit wrote:

> "kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca" <kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca> wrote in post
> 1111035085.862929.91080@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.c om on 3/16/05 9:51 PM:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I'm new to Linux, completely.
>>
>> I ordered an Ubuntu CD from their website, mostly because it is was
>> completely free. (I'm not able to download a distro, as I am still one
>> of the unfortunate bastards that are plauged with dial-up.)
>>
>>
>> My question is this:
>>
>> Is Ubuntu any good?
>>
>> Additionally, are there any other websites that will send you a cd for
>> free?
>>
> I, too, am new to Linux and have been playing with a number of distros -
> all LiveCd's as I do not have a spare HD to play with.
>
> Unbuntu seems as good as most, though the default theme was uninspiring
> (that is being kind). I think it depends on what you are looking for and
> what your needs are - that is the beauty of Linux, there are distros and
> options for almost anyone. Here were my review posts about Ubuntu:
>
> http://snipurl.com/dhbp
> http://snipurl.com/dhbq
>
> Good luck as a new user with Linux - I have been posting to
> comp.os.linux.advocacy, and find there are a few people who are
> knowledgeable, but mostly there are just jerks who belittle new users. I
> have not been posting much into this group, so hopefully it is better. In
> any case, I would not take the idiots who flame in Usenet forums as the
> norm
> for any system... esp. advocacy groups.
>
> Good luck and let me know what you find.

I just installed SUSE 9.2 via FTP a few days ago. Now, I am a certainly a
newbie, having only been using linux for a couple weeks (I started with
RH7.3).

I highly recommend SUSE, it uses KDE 3.3, which gives me a very similar feel
to windows 2000/xp. For a complete newbie, I have loved it. I basically
feel like I can use this PC like I would in the windows environment right
from the install.

The install is just like anything I have installed in windows and I could
get started computing without any configuring right from the get-go.
Default themes look good too. I don't think you would be disappointed
installing SUSE 9.2 as a newbie!!!

--
Daniel James Koepke
Fort Wayne, IN

"Daniel James Koepke" <djkoepke@comcast.net> wrote in post
3KadnTLp-4Vkl6ffRVn-ig@comcast.com on 3/17/05 3:56 PM:

> Snit wrote:
>
>> "kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca" <kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca> wrote in post
>> 1111035085.862929.91080@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.c om on 3/16/05 9:51 PM:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I'm new to Linux, completely.
>>>
>>> I ordered an Ubuntu CD from their website, mostly because it is was
>>> completely free. (I'm not able to download a distro, as I am still one
>>> of the unfortunate bastards that are plauged with dial-up.)
>>>
>>> My question is this:
>>>
>>> Is Ubuntu any good?
>>>
>>> Additionally, are there any other websites that will send you a cd for
>>> free?
>>>
>> I, too, am new to Linux and have been playing with a number of distros -
>> all LiveCd's as I do not have a spare HD to play with.
>>
>> Unbuntu seems as good as most, though the default theme was uninspiring
>> (that is being kind). I think it depends on what you are looking for and
>> what your needs are - that is the beauty of Linux, there are distros and
>> options for almost anyone. Here were my review posts about Ubuntu:
>>
>> http://snipurl.com/dhbp
>> http://snipurl.com/dhbq
>>
>> Good luck as a new user with Linux - I have been posting to
>> comp.os.linux.advocacy, and find there are a few people who are
>> knowledgeable, but mostly there are just jerks who belittle new users. I
>> have not been posting much into this group, so hopefully it is better. In
>> any case, I would not take the idiots who flame in Usenet forums as the norm
>> for any system... esp. advocacy groups.
>>
>> Good luck and let me know what you find.
>
> I just installed SUSE 9.2 via FTP a few days ago. Now, I am a certainly a
> newbie, having only been using linux for a couple weeks (I started with
> RH7.3).

Well, you may still be ahead of me. I have been playing for a couple weeks,
but only with LiveCD's. My main drive on my PC does not have much room left
on it, and for some reason it will not recognize the second HD. Rather
annoying.
>
> I highly recommend SUSE, it uses KDE 3.3, which gives me a very similar feel
> to windows 2000/xp. For a complete newbie, I have loved it. I basically
> feel like I can use this PC like I would in the windows environment right
> from the install.

Excellent. SuSE and Mandrake come very highly recommended.
>
> The install is just like anything I have installed in windows and I could
> get started computing without any configuring right from the get-go.
> Default themes look good too. I don't think you would be disappointed
> installing SUSE 9.2 as a newbie!!!

Excellent - I shall play with them more as I can... maybe when I get my
current computer, toss it out the window, and replace it.


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kurtkocaine420@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'm new to Linux, completely.
>
> I ordered an Ubuntu CD from their website, mostly because it is was
> completely free. (I'm not able to download a distro, as I am still one
> of the unfortunate bastards that are plauged with dial-up.)
>
>
> My question is this:
>
> Is Ubuntu any good?
>
> Additionally, are there any other websites that will send you a cd for
> free?
>
As someone that's actually been around the block (as a user of Linux,
UNIX, and Windows), I can safely say that Ubuntu is a good basic
distribution for the untechnical-minded. Like Gentoo, it's not very big
(there is a single installation CD, with the remainder downloading from
an Internet-based Ubuntu distribution server). However, being as you
have a dial-up connection, I cannot recommend Ubuntu for precisely this
reason. I have a broadband (cable modem, in my case) connection, and
the fact that the connection itself is exactly like that of a LAN makes
Linux (and UNIX, for that matter) rather easy to configure in terms of
network settings (in fact, Ubuntu configured itself). I would actually
recommend a distribution in which everything is on either multiple CDs
or, better yet, a single DVD (such as a prepackaged Novell Linux/SuSE or
Mandriva set) as opposed to Ubuntu.

Christopher L. Estep

On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:29:58 -0400 Christopher Estep
<pghammer21@comcast.net> wrote:

> > Hi.
> >
> > I'm new to Linux, completely.

Dredging up a post from Mar 2005 and replying to it??? WTF?

--
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mst wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:29:58 -0400 Christopher Estep
> <pghammer21@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>Hi.
>>>
>>>I'm new to Linux, completely.
>
>
> Dredging up a post from Mar 2005 and replying to it??? WTF?
>

I think that this conversation about ubuntu is very uptodate as Ubuntu
has been that fastest rising star on world of linux.

Ubuntu is cover story in ZDnews at the moment.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5886194.html

Ubuntu is a bastard son of Debian, but it's very good one so I don't
mind it being put into n00b linux class it earns it's position among
with the mandriva, suse and fedora.

I used it for a couple weeks after I formated my drive and my gentoo
with it. I managed to find the Debian again and in fact thought I am not
running Ubuntu and I am writing this from Debian Unstable/Testing I have
to say that Ubuntu is a quite impressive distripution.

People are acctually trying to think something new with it. It's got
lots of new fresh ideas.

Like that you don't know the root password when using the desktop one.
You don't need root. There are couple situations you need your own user
password which is used as a replacement to root one, but its quite rare
as ubuntu comes with everything you need. It's got thought the limited
parts because of this but I think its more good than bad.

think about that. How many distriputions do you know where there is no
root password? I know only one thought I have played with a lots of
different distriputions. And that only one which doesn't have one is Ubuntu.

-Antti-

Antti (antti@gmail.com) writes:
> mst wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:29:58 -0400 Christopher Estep
>> <pghammer21@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Hi.
>>>>
>>>>I'm new to Linux, completely.
>>
>>
>> Dredging up a post from Mar 2005 and replying to it??? WTF?
>>
>
> I think that this conversation about ubuntu is very uptodate as Ubuntu
> has been that fastest rising star on world of linux.
>

Then people can start a new thread.

The issue being brought up is that for some reason, someone not
only had access to the old thread but thought it was acceptable to
reply, even though the thread is from back in March. Replying now
doesn't add anything to that thread, because chances are good that
the original poster isn't even here still, and maybe many of
the participants aren't either. I sure didn't give any thought
to that thread after it happened, and I posted to it.

If people have something to say about something, then they shouldn't
be looking for an old thread to use to reply to, they should
start a new thread with an appropriate subject header.

If they are replying to old threads, they should be watching carefully
the date of the last message, and if it's older than a few weeks
think very carefully about replying to it.

Of course, it may be a case of someone just not paying attention
to dates, which is just as sloppy.

Michael

Michael Black <et472@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote:

> If people have something to say about something, then they shouldn't
> be looking for an old thread to use to reply to, they should
> start a new thread with an appropriate subject header.

And who gets hurt if they don't? You seem to have, there, a solution in
search of a problem.

One of the glories of having a large news spool is that you might have
articles going a long ways back -- and conversations can stop for long
periods only to resume again, either with the original participants or
with others entirely. And the result remains a coherent thread that can
be later found by interested parties using DejaNews[1] or similar
mechanisms.

What you're describing is what people are more-or-less forced to do on
mailing lists. Usenet is not a mailing list, thank God. It can do
better than that.

--
Cheers,
Rick Moen Support your local medical examiner: Die strangely.
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